| IVOD_ID |
164441 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164441 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-20T12:15:42+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-20T12:23:14+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:32 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/03f010abd9bb8d1b7d9ec4c1c18a5ef788348e19566c842c83c966d97180d5d262d4978bd81395185ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
劉建國 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:15:42 - 12:23:14 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家發展委員會主任委員列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝主席 那有請我們新科的葉主委我們再請葉主委主委很高興你所對於國會主委的身份 印象到委員會來做業務的報告那我想國會是作為國家發展的一個重要核心的一個單位兼負責過化台灣這個未來的經濟社會區域的發展的重責大任 |
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所以你上任的這個報告我特別給你看過我希望你可以帶來創新的思維跟新的一個氣象還有這個強力的一個協調這樣的一個整合的能力謝謝但是坦白講你的議會報告好像還有一些進步的空間國會的預測報告是說114名間投資實質成長將近10%等同快將近6兆然後但民間的這個實質成長卻不到1% |
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我要這邊請問主委國家投資這麼大的金額怎麼消費數字會這麼低這是我代表著整個經濟成果成長的果實根本分配不均然後也凸顯到這個薪資的停滯中產階級的焦慮甚至以這個貧富的差距擴大的系統性問題 |
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因為這個部分就是我們國人非常喜歡出國旅遊啦尤其去日本所以有一些當然在整個國民會計所得上來講的話它會有一個抵銷效果但是有一個很大的差別在國內消費跟國外消費的話它那個整個乘數效果就不會出來就是說我們在台灣花一塊錢跟在日本花一塊錢對台灣的經濟貢獻其實是有差異性的但是在國民所得上上面來講它會消掉 |
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但是怎麼跟你的報告不一樣你們是原本在主計總數是在今年5月28號的發布嘛114年間的民間消費成長預估還有1.36%那短短不到5個月你們的報告又再度下修到剩下0.85%跟委員報告就是因為關稅那個不確定性使得有一些耐久性的消費財其實有下降情況跟出國應該沒有直接關係吧到底是關稅到底是哪一個 |
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出國那一個部分的話也會是一部分所以這個大的差異性的話會哪一個部分比較大就是那一個關稅那一個部分關稅比較大但是你們自己的報告消費疲軟歸就於上半年股市交易量能縮減 |
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114年的上半年的股市量有縮減嗎然後影響財務效果以及民眾觀望汽車建廣關稅遞延購車沒有應該是未來的我們一整年未來一整年對那到底是什麼主要的因素戰而讓我們的這樣的消費指數成長率在下降我現在跟你講整個年度嘛對不對對啊你的報告裡面是在講整個年度嘛對啊 |
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那你現在跟我講下半年會比較好下半年的那一個部分的話會因為就是說我們有那個發那個現金1萬塊對所以你們今天的報告是有把1萬塊納入在你們的消費指數裡面嗎有的成長率裡面嗎有那如果有還下降呢原本是預估1.36嘛現在是下降0.85嘛 |
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5月28號的數字是太早的預估怎麼叫做太早預估因為現在已經8月了請按下去有有有按下去對對對所以5月到8月那個其實狀況算差蠻大因為因為一般來講像主計處5像中紀院的話5月在估的時候他剛剛答案是太早預估那你現在已經把1萬塊也預估在5到8月之間然後還下降了 |
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那是下半年的啦下半年的這一塊啦你今年度114年度你們的預估消費指數的成長是多少嗎 |
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你跟我講114年你們的預估全年度的消費成長數指數是多少委員你這個PPT上面那個114年是第一劑是1.36我知道他讓你寫第一劑沒有錯你第一劑然後我現在請教你是114年度對一整年 |
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就是說你第一季是1.36 你到第二季就下修了嘛 對不對你到第三季一樣又下修嘛對 因為汽車的進口關稅的因素延遲了民間的消費汽車的一個進口對不對 延遲消費然後加上國人都在國外消費再加上國人都在國外消費然後可是第四季我們全年預估現在主季總數是逾零點 |
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明年八五沒有放到消費券這些主委剛剛打呼我有放進去明年預估明年的預估 |
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明年的預估我現在跟你一直討論是今年的預估主委講的是說今年會超過主計總數的5.45是因為原因是有消費券的就是重慶苑的估計5.45是有包括那個消費券一萬塊的但主計不是沒有清清楚楚的把你們的預估為什麼會下修然後到最後一季你說還會再往上調整一些嘛對不對把相關的因素全部給我們做個參考這是第一件事情嘛 |
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那第二件事情我要特別拜託主委啦你剛來齁 我覺得有些事情可以來到協調齁 到承擔齁就是我在去年在114年6月11號的時候在總諮詢特別跟當時的院長還有那時候的國部長特別有建議AI人才培訓基地首度可以考慮到雲林因為雲林有一個這個國科會中部科學管理局的湖北園區然後還有相關的這些 |
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跟整個AI的中下游的產業鏈然後最近的就是虎哥大已經有跟無人機AI雙核心的這樣的課程已經在推動了 |
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那現在有一個環球它的舊值有將近30公頃然後還有12棟的校舍那經濟部顯然到現在好像一直規劃不出來這當然是有承諾而且要往下推的然後他們說報國安會好像 |
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意見寥寥啦齁我希望竹圍展現新的一個這樣的一個氣象啦一個魄力這個地方不需要再這麼多花費的任何費用然後有這麼多可以來利用的這個校舍的空間然後場域又這麼寬廣 |
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然後又有虎科又有雲科又可以扮演在中部地區整個AI人才培訓的最重的這樣的一個基地主委是不是可以思考來了解之後趕快馬上進行規劃實質來看應該怎麼來做處理因為這個案子我們在7月23號其實有回復院只是院那邊還沒有核定那就請主委來結束 |
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積極來看整個處理嘛好不好 願我會催那當然也要有主委看你有沒有新的思維讓這件事情能不能趕快的沉澱落定趕快讓我們更多的這個人才可以在這個地方孕育而生嘛可以吧 一個禮拜內好 謝謝主席 謝謝 |