| IVOD_ID |
164425 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164425 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-26-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-20T11:43:31+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-20T11:54:22+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:51 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/03f010abd9bb8d1b4585a2cfb9237768720e647d743851f483c966d97180d5d23fcf17fe098d76155ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:43:31 - 11:54:22 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第5次全體委員會議(事由:一、邀請環境部、經濟部、農業部、內政部就「太陽能光電板案場環評機制與保護區廢棄物管理之檢討」進行專題報告,並備質詢。
二、審查
(一)委員賴瑞隆等16人擬具「噪音管制法第二十六條及第二十八條條文修正草案」案。
(二)委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「噪音管制法第二十六條及第二十八條條文修正草案」案。
(三)委員張智倫等17人擬具「噪音管制法第二十六條及第二十八條條文修正草案」案。
(四)委員王育敏等24人擬具「噪音管制法第二十六條及第二十八條條文修正草案」案。
(五)台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「噪音管制法第二十六條及第二十八條條文修正草案」案。
(六)委員黃健豪等19人擬具「噪音管制法第二十六條及第二十八條條文修正草案」案。
(七)委員牛煦庭等25人擬具「噪音管制法第二條及第二十六條條文修正草案」案。
(八)委員羅明才等20人擬具「噪音管制法第二十六條及第二十八條條文修正草案」案。
(九)委員羅廷瑋等17人擬具「噪音管制法第二十六條及第二十八條條文修正草案」案。
【專題報告及法律案採綜合詢答;法律案僅詢答】) |
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謝謝主席請經濟部的賴次長跟環境部的彭部長好請賴次長彭部長委員好處長我看你經濟部從8號發的新聞稿16號又發了這個FBR你們都在強調說嘉義會計的這個光電板已經完全 |
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清完了 不管是志宏池不管是贊助區說不要再以訛傳訛確定都清完了嗎 |
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現在還有部分在這個合法的戰事區域裡面那其他的部分都在戰事區你都掉了 你看你自己的圖戰事區10月11號以前不是全部都清完了嗎那個是在 這個是你那個是在打自己的新聞稿打點自己的新聞稿那個是在這個四個場區當時災後的緊急的這個戰事的一個區域你這個是16號剛剛發的耶距離現在才五天耶是啊 |
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所以 來來 我們先確認一下新聞貴社 荷包魚 新增暗藏志皇寺本身是7月24號就完成了 對不對新增是7月30號嘛 這個沒錯對不對這個沒錯嘛 戰事區照你的新聞稿 跟你剛剛的FB還叫民眾不要什麼 以兒傳兒來看這個 來來看一下所以新聞是10月11號以前清除 |
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貴社這都是11月11號以前清完嘛 對不對特別下去看來這是嘉義新聞赤紅池的站置區你看房部蓋的那個 你從外面都看得到那個裡面裝的是什麼破碎的光電板跟角碎的這個浮板 |
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市長 你們為什麼急著8號要發新聞稿 16號要發這上面這麼大堆 一大堆這還不是剛剛環境部在講什麼那個什麼零星的那麼一大堆市長 來來 我再進一步給你看 來來這個是旁邊 旁邊的贊助區閃落的 你看 左邊這個圖 |
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中間那個是破碎的光電板你先看 先看 來來來 設定一下 |
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對 第一個我們剛剛說明了丹納斯的時候我們有一個緊急的這個戰事區包括這個水面的太陽能光電板這個確實都已經我們都已經有清完了那至於你剛剛這個畫面包括後面那張畫面這個顯示的應該是委員最近有去看的對 那這個部分我們還是會定期去看若是還有沒有沒有清理的話 |
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那會依照相關的這個規定來處理發新聞稿 發新聞稿的時候你全部都簽完了那我們確實在公衛區旁邊的那個戰事區當時協調完了 那個都簽完了來來來 我剛才還問你咧來回到那個新聞櫃下 這你們 我還會幫你整理耶你8號發一個新聞稿 16號發一個LV |
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是我們夜上 是我們眼睛的夜上太重 看不到這也是我們看到這個戰事區我們當時宣導的是戰事區我們全部都清完了 這個照片在這裡啊所以我長的那個是什麼東西那個是 靈芯說是喔 跑出來的話我們要繼續去巡檢一大堆在那要靈芯喔 來 我再給你看不是只有那一大堆 來 市長你看 旁邊來旁邊 上一張 |
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這個一樣是10月18號的新聞欸就剛剛那個一大坨的旁邊地面上是什麼左邊這一張破碎的光電板他的右上角這個是破碎的這個湖板下面還有金屬的這個擴建欸中間這張是什麼破碎的光電板很嚴重的現在環境部長在那連那個廢棄的電線都還在那裡右邊是什麼剛剛看那個亮亮的 |
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破碎的光電板經濟部到底是怎樣是眼睛有業障一般人都看得到你們看不到還是你們變成一個造謠部並沒有沒有 為什麼我今天不是只有看得到全台灣民眾都看得到 怎麼看不到你們還要發個新聞稿說是民眾在造謠 |
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並沒有這個事情第一個我們除了全部的這個戰事區這個部分我們在災後協調戰事區我們清完了之後我們還定期派人去比如說像這兩天我們還派了同仁然後去現場去看因為有一些的地方他可能被泥土所遮蓋的慢慢的有出來的那當然我們這個會要求他去處理不是你說的那個什麼被泥土掩蓋嘛對不對你說你們都還找人下去看那你們怎麼可以在8號跟16號 |
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你們不只是說已經清完欸你們還說民眾不要再以而傳而欸你們是要反駁聯合報的報導反駁立法院的質詢欸你們這樣不是在自打嘴巴嗎不是 那張照片的出處我們會去了解一下那張照片的出處我們絕對會去了解來來 我再給你看剛講的是 戰事區對不對你說戰事區把制洪池都處理好了來 我給你看這是新聞的制洪池欸電話下一下 請請測測 |
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那個是什麼 像小船是不是幾十艘的小船 現在在志鴻池的上面這是看 怎麼會看不 你還找人下去看 |
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不過我們定期去巡檢確實是如此這個裡面的這個浮台據我的同仁去現場巡檢了解它大概有可能有兩種樣態一種樣態是它是定位點的這個浮台第二個部分是過去沉在這個水面裡面的話 |
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那慢慢因為水波的這個衝擊或水滴的衝擊慢慢再浮出來了所以這也是為什麼我們今天還有再請人家去尋檢的關係我們不會說清完的時候完全置之不理清不乾淨結果你還敢發兩篇新聞稿還罵說大家以訛傳訛連我在立法院在質詢你們都可以講說都清完了就救資料我現在給你最新的資料那這樣不是變成兩個很嚴重問題嗎你清完這個東西你變成是一個錯誤的消息 |
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第二個 你還幫別人造謠 變成自己在造謠啦而且這個啦 你看 次長你看十幾... 十...好像那個小船一樣 十幾艘以上在那個水面上你都... 你只要走過去 一般的民眾就看得到啦不要媒體去採訪 不要立法院去看一般民眾只要從這個新聞 這個大馬路過去就看到了捏阿甘 你在孫孫博 你不是故意在誤導嗎 |
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我不要只有罵你啦我是說我現在是跟你講道理講得很清楚我給你看有圖有真相對不對啊這個是新聞的這個志鴻池你趕快找人去看好不好謝謝委員的資料給我們順便去尋查一下我會給你啊你也看一下來你看一下不是只有那個小船在左邊飄你看右邊來來OK我給你看一下右邊那個是什麼那是廢棄的光電板啊那麼清楚啊來再下一張我為他證實是昨天去的喔我特別拿了昨天的報紙給你喝飽 |
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昨天鄭麗文 前天當選這個黨主席鄭麗文當選國民黨黨主席 對這是19號的報紙我昨天人就在這個地方那我看到就剛剛講 剛剛給大家看了18號跟19號裡面的戰事區沒有清完製縫池 該清的沒有清完你看 這個製縫池 你看旁邊這個是什麼這是個很完整的光電板 整個整個好好的 整座都在這裡好好的 |
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你怎麼連這東西都沒清呢右邊是破碎的光電板你隨便一看就抓得到了這個我們去查明一下 |
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那個市長你們當初當初沒有會漏洞這麼大沒看到是你們自己去看的還是環境部給你們的資料不是吧不是我們有自己我們在後有沒有最後因為時間有限來我我整理一下啦OK來下來下來我來我們最後時間有限我做一個第一個齁我鄭重的呼籲不是只有立法院在問政我很感動聯合報的記者一組人喔 |
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一組人去做了90天對嘉義廢棄的光電板的追蹤他們說什麼 這是一個食言的教訓政策暴衝導致短短4年一個颱風來就翻車了而且要全民去買單到現在該清的還沒清完是不是污染了土地然後還要講說民眾在造謠這都嚴重的一個事情 |
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我請那個部長跟次長回去看一看聯合報的那個追蹤報導90天的追蹤報導 好不好另外我做三個 簡單我做三個要求 來第一個 針對這一次為什麼出現剛剛我講的根本沒有清完 你竟然講說是清完了到底出了什麼問題 實地再去勘查 好不好然後盡快提出一個檢討沒有清完了 趕快清走 好不好這是第一個要求 第三個 |
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一定要水面光電板的一個災害的應變計畫這個應該是環境部跟經濟部要趕快盡力出來 好不好要趕緊 第二個我們民眾黨已經針對水庫跟水面型上面要納這個環評請環境部跟行政院跟經濟部不是只有做評估啦趕快提出一個審議板來 好不好就提這三大要求好 一起努力 拜託一下大家只要到嘉義 |
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新聞還有一些那個自封紙那個旁邊去看就會發現戰事區跟自封紙都是沒有清乾淨 乾淨要清乾淨好 謝謝好 謝謝張祺凱委員發言 |