| IVOD_ID |
164423 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164423 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-20T11:39:39+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-20T11:49:06+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:27 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/03f010abd9bb8d1bba1d7be50580b9b388348e19566c842c83c966d97180d5d2a3fdef050e3855615ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
呂玉玲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:39:39 - 11:49:06 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家發展委員會主任委員列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
| transcript.pyannote[0].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[0].start |
0.03096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[0].end |
0.62159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[1].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[1].start |
9.56534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[1].end |
11.33721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[2].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[2].start |
11.43846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[2].end |
12.61971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[3].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[3].start |
18.34034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[3].end |
18.88034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[4].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[4].start |
19.09971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[4].end |
19.53846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[5].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[5].start |
20.60159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[5].end |
24.09471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[6].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[6].start |
24.09471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[6].end |
24.28034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[7].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[7].start |
24.28034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[7].end |
33.76409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[8].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[8].start |
34.11846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[8].end |
35.55284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[9].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[9].start |
34.42221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[9].end |
34.64159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[10].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[10].start |
35.02971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[10].end |
46.74096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[11].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[11].start |
46.97721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[11].end |
85.68846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[12].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[12].start |
86.29596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[12].end |
103.86284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[13].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[13].start |
104.72346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[13].end |
109.63409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[14].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[14].start |
109.12784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[14].end |
110.56221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[15].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[15].start |
111.03471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[15].end |
111.45659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[16].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[16].start |
111.59159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[16].end |
112.36784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[17].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[17].start |
111.64221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[17].end |
112.85721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[18].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[18].start |
112.85721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[18].end |
113.54909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[19].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[19].start |
114.00471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[19].end |
116.60346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[20].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[20].start |
117.27846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[20].end |
125.46284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[21].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[21].start |
123.38721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[21].end |
125.58096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[22].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[22].start |
125.76659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[22].end |
138.50721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[23].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[23].start |
129.91784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[23].end |
130.25534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[24].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[24].start |
138.76034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[24].end |
141.42659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[25].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[25].start |
141.37596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[25].end |
145.44284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[26].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[26].start |
143.04659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[26].end |
144.02534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[27].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[27].start |
144.70034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[27].end |
147.88971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[28].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[28].start |
148.10909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[28].end |
148.95284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[29].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[29].start |
149.30721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[29].end |
184.67721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[30].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[30].start |
185.01471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[30].end |
191.05596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[31].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[31].start |
190.33034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[31].end |
191.54534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[32].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[32].start |
191.54534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[32].end |
193.97534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[33].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[33].start |
191.91659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[33].end |
197.46846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[34].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[34].start |
194.44784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[34].end |
199.94909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[35].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[35].start |
198.71721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[35].end |
211.69409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[36].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[36].start |
212.23409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[36].end |
226.45971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[37].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[37].start |
226.93221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[37].end |
228.95721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[38].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[38].start |
229.48034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[38].end |
230.93159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[39].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[39].start |
230.99909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[39].end |
231.52221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[40].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[40].start |
231.91034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[40].end |
236.28096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[41].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[41].start |
236.60159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[41].end |
266.68971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[42].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[42].start |
240.39846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[42].end |
240.51659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[43].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[43].start |
240.58409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[43].end |
240.68534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[44].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[44].start |
267.26346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[44].end |
267.68534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[45].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[45].start |
269.32221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[45].end |
277.37159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[46].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[46].start |
276.91596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[46].end |
277.99596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[47].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[47].start |
278.36721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[47].end |
278.51909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[48].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[48].start |
278.51909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[48].end |
280.54409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[49].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[49].start |
278.53596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[49].end |
279.88596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[50].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[50].start |
280.67909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[50].end |
287.54721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[51].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[51].start |
287.04096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[51].end |
291.54659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[52].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[52].start |
291.54659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[52].end |
291.91784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[53].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[53].start |
292.35659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[53].end |
293.58846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[54].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[54].start |
293.58846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[54].end |
293.79096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[55].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[55].start |
293.79096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[55].end |
294.11159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[56].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[56].start |
293.80784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[56].end |
293.82471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[57].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[57].start |
294.73596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[57].end |
297.67221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[58].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[58].start |
298.48221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[58].end |
301.06409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[59].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[59].start |
302.39721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[59].end |
307.08846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[60].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[60].start |
307.29096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[60].end |
309.31596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[61].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[61].start |
308.89409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[61].end |
311.10471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[62].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[62].start |
312.37034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[62].end |
312.84284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[63].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[63].start |
314.80034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[63].end |
315.17159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[64].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[64].start |
316.09971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[64].end |
332.33346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[65].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[65].start |
332.48534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[65].end |
332.92409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[66].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[66].start |
332.92409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[66].end |
335.08409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[67].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[67].start |
335.32034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[67].end |
335.89409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[68].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[68].start |
335.55659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[68].end |
337.66596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[69].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[69].start |
337.73346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[69].end |
338.15534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[70].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[70].start |
338.15534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[70].end |
340.01159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[71].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[71].start |
340.09596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[71].end |
340.12971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[72].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[72].start |
340.12971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[72].end |
341.93534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[73].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[73].start |
340.48409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[73].end |
340.51784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[74].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[74].start |
342.03659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[74].end |
344.28096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[75].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[75].start |
342.32346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[75].end |
342.40784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[76].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[76].start |
344.60159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[76].end |
350.32221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[77].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[77].start |
350.54159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[77].end |
359.23221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[78].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[78].start |
359.90721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[78].end |
365.27346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[79].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[79].start |
365.81346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[79].end |
366.37034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[80].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[80].start |
366.45471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[80].end |
366.85971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[81].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[81].start |
366.75846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[81].end |
367.38284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[82].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[82].start |
367.43346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[82].end |
368.66534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[83].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[83].start |
367.75409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[83].end |
371.58471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[84].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[84].start |
373.22159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[84].end |
374.28471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[85].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[85].start |
375.93846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[85].end |
376.34346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[86].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[86].start |
378.13221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[86].end |
379.46534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[87].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[87].start |
379.60034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[87].end |
380.35971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[88].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[88].start |
380.79846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[88].end |
380.81534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[89].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[89].start |
380.81534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[89].end |
381.94596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[90].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[90].start |
382.16534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[90].end |
384.08909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[91].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[91].start |
384.42659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[91].end |
386.29971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[92].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[92].start |
386.29971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[92].end |
386.33346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[93].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[93].start |
386.60346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[93].end |
396.20534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[94].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[94].start |
395.66534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[94].end |
397.38659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[95].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[95].start |
397.67346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[95].end |
400.93034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[96].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[96].start |
401.26784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[96].end |
404.37284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[97].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[97].start |
405.52034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[97].end |
409.21596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[98].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[98].start |
409.14846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[98].end |
421.72034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[99].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[99].start |
419.35784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[99].end |
419.47596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[100].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[100].start |
421.75409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[100].end |
426.46221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[101].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[101].start |
426.73221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[101].end |
438.88221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[102].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[102].start |
439.87784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[102].end |
441.51471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[103].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[103].start |
441.73409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[103].end |
444.87284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[104].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[104].start |
445.10909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[104].end |
446.81346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[105].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[105].start |
446.71221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[105].end |
447.97784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[106].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[106].start |
448.43346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[106].end |
449.63159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[107].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[107].start |
448.70346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[107].end |
449.15909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[108].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[108].start |
450.39096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[108].end |
451.63971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[109].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[109].start |
450.40784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[109].end |
450.81284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[110].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[110].start |
451.65659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[110].end |
457.09034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[111].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[111].start |
454.40721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[111].end |
454.99784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[112].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[112].start |
455.85846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[112].end |
470.20221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[113].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[113].start |
470.75909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[113].end |
471.33284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[114].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[114].start |
471.63659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[114].end |
474.65721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[115].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[115].start |
475.23096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[115].end |
476.15909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[116].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[116].start |
476.37846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[116].end |
485.17034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[117].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[117].start |
483.55034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[117].end |
489.16971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[118].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[118].start |
491.34659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[118].end |
491.90346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[119].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[119].start |
492.24096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[119].end |
500.12159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[120].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[120].start |
500.57721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[120].end |
501.06659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[121].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[121].start |
501.58971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[121].end |
506.11221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[122].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[122].start |
506.70284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[122].end |
508.55909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[123].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[123].start |
508.87971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[123].end |
513.31784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[124].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[124].start |
509.08221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[124].end |
509.33534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[125].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[125].start |
513.55409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[125].end |
515.95034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[126].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[126].start |
516.60846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[126].end |
518.88659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[127].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[127].start |
519.52784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[127].end |
527.88096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[128].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[128].start |
527.07096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[128].end |
538.68096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[129].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[129].start |
539.25471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[129].end |
540.35159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[130].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[130].start |
539.84534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[130].end |
540.94221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[131].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[131].start |
540.89159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[131].end |
544.65471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[132].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[132].start |
545.14409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[132].end |
548.99159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[133].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[133].start |
549.02534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[133].end |
549.75096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[134].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[134].start |
549.10971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[134].end |
550.47659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[135].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[135].start |
550.17284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[135].end |
550.29096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[136].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[136].start |
550.47659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[136].end |
551.64096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[137].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[137].start |
550.88159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[137].end |
554.32409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[138].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[138].start |
552.48471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[138].end |
552.99096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[139].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[139].start |
554.44221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[139].end |
558.01971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[140].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[140].start |
557.58096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[140].end |
559.16721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[141].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[141].start |
558.62721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[141].end |
561.68159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[142].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[142].start |
559.72409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[142].end |
559.94346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[143].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[143].start |
561.66471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[143].end |
565.59659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[144].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[144].start |
565.95096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[144].end |
566.74409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[145].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[145].start |
567.30096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[145].end |
567.84096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[146].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[146].start |
568.11096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[146].end |
568.48221875 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].start |
0.089 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].end |
11.072 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].text |
謝謝主席 請葉主委我們再請葉主委委員長主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].start |
20.632 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].end |
43.707 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].text |
日本是我們台灣的第三大的貿易夥伴在這個月初的時候台北市的日本商會他發布了2025年對台灣政府政策的建言的白皮書你有沒有看過有當然有看過那本席也針對這個白皮書特別去翻閱了我們也發現他特別有提到就像我們台灣在積極推動這個AI產業跟半導體產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].start |
49.143 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].end |
65.533 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].text |
這兩樣產業這兩樣產業是非常耗電高耗電的那要穩定供電那目前我們的核電廠全部就已經停止運轉了當然我們台灣還是有做一些再生能源的建置但是穩定供電是非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].start |
65.913 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
84.903 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].text |
那日本商會這邊特別就有提到所以我們可以看得出日本商會他是非常擔心我們沒有核能作為基載能源未來是否能夠讓他們能夠在這個合作上面會發生有任何的變化所以在能源方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].start |
86.363 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
103.693 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].text |
我們國發會也是可以是主導這個橫向各部會協調能源政策跟相關計畫的一個主則單位你對這方面對於新的能源政策你們有沒有能源的技術方面你們有沒有展開了這個研究這個研究我們會持續關注但這個核能的關注有沒有展開研究目前我們還沒有為什麼沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].start |
114.059 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
124.907 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].text |
因為第一個就是說我們國內的那個核能的政策的話可能還是要有幾個步驟第一個就是說要有兩個程序我知道總統在我們核能這個公投之後的話總統有說過三樣這個原則下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].start |
131.172 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
147.217 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
沒有錯在三樣原則下你還是要做一些未以籌謀穩定供電在我們再生能源不夠穩定的當下你為什麼沒有說先來做一些準備呢會 會就謝謝委員的所以你要不要去研究會 謝謝委員新的能源技術要去研究嘛好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
148.217 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
164.683 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
那現在再來要跟你提到的就是我們一些人口老化高齡化少子化的情形那在整個勞動力的市場上來講的話我們是對缺工是非常的嚴重在這白皮書裡面也有提到這缺工的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
165.843 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
184.441 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
缺工的产业包括就是服务业跟制造业这两方面那我们看到我们政府对于这个自动化的提升这个部分的话只有协助到这个低碳转型跟数位的转型那请问一下未来对这两个产业的话我们能不能也来做自动化的相关的补助 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
185.527 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
197.681 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
會會會因為就好像我剛剛跟大家分享就是說經濟部的那個所以你會協調經濟部對這兩個產業進行自動化提升的而且已經工作效率的補助有這個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
201.165 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
227.927 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
這樣子的話才能讓我們缺工的問題能夠獲得解決那再來要跟你提到就是日本也是我們半導體產業設備重要的供應國家那我們看到這個在日本企業的東京威力科創他們的員工跟我們台積電的員工合作偷取竊取了2奈米的先進製程這件事情諸位也是知道嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
229.528 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
245.976 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
在這種事情發生的時候主委對半導體先進製程這個核心的技術我們要保障這個國際的競爭力那這個技術是很重要的要好好去保護它的所以在這方面的話我們國家有國安法還有這個產業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
248.177 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
267.538 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
這個營業的這個秘密法對事後會有一個處分但是我們有未來可以怎麼去對於未來如果去防範對於這個半導體這個產業他們的如果在內部的管理上人員管理上或者治安的防護機制上你們也能夠做哪些的防護跟保護管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
269.363 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
297.008 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
因為這個部分來講我們有一支計畫有次在跟那個疏防部在做合作那會就整個那個治安的疏防部要怎麼做他們溝通他做什麼防護他有在持續的研究就是說在那個是不是有一些APP啊或者是我們希望有事前的防護比事後的處分來的重要而且高科技了所以這方面的話主委你能提到具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
298.547 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
310.891 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
你應該很了解 具體的如何去防護呢第一個當然就台積電這個半導體這件事情的話它會裡面 對 它可能你看過白皮書了 白皮書有提到對 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
314.884 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
344.096 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
所以诸位他们要求的就是我们对于业者在内部资讯的安全管理跟机密的分级授权跟人员的审查一定要深化国际的合作的同时也能够守护到产业的竞争力这就是你当前要注意要去做的所以不要丢给速发部我对速发部也没有信心我不晓得他在做什么连一个诈骗他都没办法处理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
345.056 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
371.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
所以主委您是橫跨各部會的協調溝通相關產業你要積極的努力朝這方面來做好不好謝謝委員那接下來想請問主委的就是說我們國發基金啊對於投資方面的話我們有外部的審查委員制的方式嗎對不對有沒有有那為什麼像這個爐心公司啊他這個指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
375.987 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
404.119 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
我們外部審查的時候有提醒你他會虧損但是你們還堅持要投資是什麼原因跟委員報告就是說我們的審查的機制會送外省然後外省的意見回來之後的話我們會中整之後給那一個所以你中整了還是要投資因為我們不會只給一個委員看通常會有三個委員所以就好像你拿到 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
405.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
418.647 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
審查報告的時候 有一個會很好可能啦 另外一個會很差他提醒你的是什麼 毛利率過低而且整體的規劃設計技術各方面他沒有做出一個策略的規劃性這個一點這麼多 你們內部 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
421.989 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
438.551 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
你們內部可以棄盤點的話你就不用請外部 那外部給你建議你又不用那這樣子的話你這個沒有做一個具體的棄盤整的話那整個是虛有其表而且對整個基金的投資還執意的造成了一個損失 你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
440.069 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
453.559 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
國發會要不要負起責任跟委員報告就是說我們內部的委員不去做外部的審查所以你把他推給委員嗎那些委員是誰聘的不夠專業嗎我們有一個那個委員的那一個治療庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
455.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
475.994 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
所以你們委員不夠專業也請外面的省和投省單位來做一個評估評估告訴你就是毛利率很低他們沒有前瞻性未來性的一些戰略策略在裡面你們還要投資那表示你們整體作業投資把人民的納稅錢就當一回事了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
476.614 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
488.923 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
跟委員報告就是說裡面會有一個報告是不好的但其他的可能是很好的話就需要那個管理委員事實已經呈現他就是失敗的好我再提一個聯合再生的公司的投資案 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
491.377 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
518.569 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
他們有17位委員你說推給委員我就告訴你這個聯合再生公司你就是17位委員要來進行投票但是有6位委員請假一位用代理的可以用代理來投票嗎這不是要專業嗎他是代理的話他整個了解整個事業體嗎所以他投出來的票8票同意那是不是不同意的人就要請假不要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
519.834 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
544.286 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
這個部分跟委員報告就是說我們已經就這個部分就是說代理的問題的話我們有提出一系列的改進方案所以我本身在這邊建議以後不要用代理的而且你17位就要17位通通來投票請假你可以調整一下時間你六位不來那六位是不同意你就要不要來啊我可以合理懷疑嗎因為基本上我們管理委員會的委員很多都是部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
545.202 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
566.102 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
那有的時候就是說他們時間上面來講的話沒有辦法配合部長要更關心這件事情那你說部長不關心那你就不要把投資人的錢亂丟我們在新的版本裡面我們會對這個一定要嚴格好不好會有比較嚴格的一個要求在這個投審的地方國發基金要審慎投資好 謝謝好 謝謝韋 |