| IVOD_ID |
164397 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164397 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-20T10:23:31+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-20T10:30:16+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:45 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/03f010abd9bb8d1b04a9192f7b99211610dc7ddeacd8f6da83c966d97180d5d21563234e73618c5b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:23:31 - 10:30:16 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第6次全體委員會議(事由:邀請內政部、警政署署長、國家安全局、法務部針對「當前全國治安狀況與如何強化總統、副總統、中央政府機關首長及特定人士安全警衛作業,避免境外勢力或協力者影響國家安全」進行專題報告,並備質詢。) |
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來 主席謝謝 麻煩請署長加署長委員好來 署長好署長 今天感謝召委這邊排這相關的一個專題報告 |
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本期也想了解我開宗明義自始至終我們都很支持基層的公務同仁因為基層的警察同仁非常辛苦尤其是現在不管是詐騙不管是任何的這一些大小事都要我們第一線的員警來做處理非常辛苦不容易但該討論的事項還是要討論我先請教一下刑法135條指的是什麼 |
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134 應該那個善貨 善貨罪 就是善貨人家犯罪 應該確定善貨罪嗎 是嗎 是妨礙公務吧136條 善貨他人犯罪 好 136條勒 |
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你也不清楚嘛 署長在第一時間面臨到即便是你學有專精 即便是那麼了解 刑法136條也不清楚是聚眾啊 聚眾三人以上 妨礙公務啊138條咧 140條 141條 署長都不清楚那署長為什麼會請教這個問題 不用現在再看了啦來啦 為什麼會請教這個問題 |
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看到一名員警在高雄的時候因為總統車隊經過員警過來對單一男子喔他是單一個人喔我們看到畫面單一個人嘛員警過來講說執勤公務啊按照法條刑法135條138條140條141條妨礙社會秩序執勤特種勤務你拍特勤就是違法請教我以哪一條法例 |
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現在不是說我頒法條出來喔念的00中總138139140好像這樣就很專業因為連署長剛剛被問到的時候也都不清楚這些法條內容到底是什麼那這個員警這樣子有沒有爭議應該是沒有爭議啦沒有爭議你現在這樣子啦你連署長都不清楚那個法條內容然後你跟我講說沒有爭議那你覺得說符合嗎來 |
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總統的或副總統維安是依照特勤中心特勤這個條例總統有特殊的規格維安我不反對因為國安規格就是國安規格那是有特勤條例 特勤條例裡面會去公告特勤條例的第12條是對於公告的這些相關可能造成維安的狀況會去做一些盤查的一些相關的勤務行為沒有問題盤查的相關的特別但我先請教啊 |
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遠景到恐嚇一般的老百姓不能恐嚇沒有恐嚇老百姓他拿出這些條例有哪一條是符合第一您剛也不清楚說這條例內容一時間你被問到也不清楚即便是我們警政署長被問到也不清楚我應該是要跟他講說這第幾條是什麼樣的一個罪名有沒有符合聚眾三人136條聚眾三人對不對那看到只有一個人 |
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然後他搬出136條聚眾三人什麼意思那我想跟委員報告如果員警有這些使用這些錯誤的作用我們會去做一個再教育現在署長改口說員警使用錯誤的條例因為那個盤炒我現在講的是盤炒的這個作為啦138條是什麼你不知道嗎138條是毀損公務員的文書 |
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是公務員如果說有任何文書你去把他毀損139 140條是什麼是侮辱公務員141條是什麼是執勤的時候侮辱公務員那這一個民眾他拿手機出來拍維安車隊你可以用其他的條文如果說符合我現在講的是說國家有國家的法令總統有國安的高規格的維安我不反對 |
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但是你如果拿錯誤的法條故意要來恐嚇民眾我沒有辦法接受啊員警如果執行了這些的這個相關的疏失我們會再去做教育那這個是適用特警條例的規範來做盤查特警條例有告訴員警說你可以拿不對法條只要唸出來唸出來就算對沒有講那個特別法條就是依照特警條例來做一個盤查署長署長我們現在人武分局改口啊 |
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說這是善意提醒啊為什麼要改口這個我想就是說你署長又講的那麼義正嚴實說這是違安那現在又說改口誰說的算遠景的這個部分他個人的一個相關的工作上的這一些這個這個這個這個疏失或者是這一些不是不對的我們會去做教育 |
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那這個以這個案來講這是依照特權條例的規範來做一個盤查特權條例第12條那本來特權條例第二就是有規範的這個路段跟路口對於這個造成總統違安的各種狀況那總統的違安一定要達到萬全啊 |
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可能就是他在那邊做什麼動作你沒有去瞭解你沒有辦法自圓其說啦我只講兩點啦第一總統有違安高規格本席不反對任何人都有機會當總統當了總統就中華民國的代表就應該有違安高規格但是絕對不是無限上綱更不是一個員警可以拿錯誤的法條來去恐嚇人民第一他明明執勤的時候就使用錯誤法條 |
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第二 如果說你剛講你用錯誤法條然後你要援警再教育的話那要一體試用啊 要講清楚啊 不能一人涉事啊不能一人涉事啊 半藍不半綠是過去大家看到覺得最荒謬的事情不要讓民眾覺得現在是台灣是法治的社會警察的 警察國家 |
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絕對不會署長一定是依法啦錯誤的法條不要濫用你剛已經講了人五分局也改口了我想這件事情影片我不知道你有沒有看過有看過有看過那你就更你就更清楚明白本席的強調的重點不是拿法條出來背幾條就可以恐嚇人民的連署長被問到的時候都不知道那法條內容的時候我不知道一般的民眾怎麼樣能夠 |
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幸福警察的執勤謝謝我們感謝侯孟愷委員 |