| IVOD_ID |
164282 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164282 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-16T10:50:08+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-16T10:57:19+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:11 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6022c9f6d63255a321b9f2d3cc79aa90a3b07049f443442ad77ab6ef5aede898f0a2f51fd5bd8c715ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林德福 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:50:08 - 10:57:19 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部部長、海洋委員會主任委員、內政部警政署署長、內政部消防署署長就「警察、消防、海巡、移民及空中勤務總隊人員危勞津貼及退休權益之保障」進行專題報告並備質詢，另請行政院人事行政總處、行政院主計總處、銓敘部派員列席備詢。） |
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是不是請這個內政部部長 劉部長還有這個警政署張署長還有消防署蕭署長還有這個權敘部退伍師的高護師長請以上提到人員備詢 |
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好謝謝我想今天很多同仁我剛剛在下面聽到這個警察人事條例相關的這些這個有關於警消警察退休的所得替代率都已經三讀通過那這個 |
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讓警消退休所得更有保障這都是法律所規定的但是賴總統跟卓榮泰院長竟然不依邊列的預算不依法來邊列這不只是公然踐踏整個立法院通過的法律同時也踐踏警察警消他們的權益 |
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那整個治安的維護包括救火救災都依賴辛苦的警察警消人員如果政府都不願意來善待這些警察跟警消人員民進黨政府又有何資格來談強化社會的韌性那個部長本來 |
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就應該要照顧這些警察警消同仁以內政部的立場那本身是希望說部長可以好好的想想不要再利用國家的力量來欺負啊這些警察跟警消同仁尤其他們退休以後應該要得到相對的保障來 |
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報告委員您講的部分爭取權益的部分我完全贊同但是請委員不要說用全國的力量來欺負警消同仁這個我完全無法贊同我們都知道我們要依法行政但是我們要知道我們要在中華民國的憲法體制下面今天有這樣的爭議的部分那現在行政院長已經有申請行政院已經申請要釋憲了我們在按照釋憲的結果 |
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三讀通過了還事件 笑死人了而且齁 你把立法院當成塑膠的我跟你講 人在做天在看這些齁 警察 警消 退休以後其實警察有的都60歲就走掉了齁 那你警消 他們也都是冒著生命危險 |
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退休以後年紀越長他們花費的費用更多可能要生病要看醫生甚至要請外勞等等來照顧結果你們砍殺他的年金他當初為什麼選擇這個行業退休有保障嘛 |
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對不對 你溯及既往我是不能接受你要是說我今天立法以後 針對未來你來做的人 你要有這個心理準備 那我可以接受但是我已經跟政府簽約 我已經30年40年我退休了 你再來扛我年金 道理何在 |
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對不對 你們敢不敢砍這些勞工 不敢啊對不對 這個都是假象 都是用騙的講實在話 我是真的很不能接受部長你有什麼看法 你告訴我我還是跟委員的看法有點不一樣還是要視線啦 笑死了 |
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市縣 什麼都市縣啊你問我的看法啊我現在要跟你說我第一句要說完 你就開始在說喔 你說委員 你是老委員齁 就族親的我也做過立法委員 大家都知道要替很多既然的人請出款應這是我們應該做的部分啊 勞工你怎麼不敢抬但是你要請出 你要請出款應你也是按照法律來走啊對 但是 但是 按照法律來走勞工說你不敢抬對不對 不是我 當事是軍公教的勞你們只要喊軍公教 包括警察警校 |
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人家要摸著良心啦 人在做天在看我們也是人在做天在看如果你沒有按照中華民國憲法來做的話任何依法行政都會有違憲我們所提出去認為有問題如果釋憲結果出來是行政院需要再追溯補回我們當然會追溯補回啊 |
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那這個部分的後半截的部分都講得非常清楚院長也三番兩次在我們的行政院面對立法委員質詢的講得非常的清楚但是委員你聽不下去所以我認為說其實後面啦大概有很多人不同意那我們也都知道大家都不想做壞人啦大家都想做好人啦但是做好人也是要按照憲法啊沒關係 你們不想編這次預算再看 |
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你會拉這個我們也會拉預算我跟你講你再看看好了美國總統川普為了改善華盛頓特區自然下令驅離華盛頓特區的遊民白宮發言人表示遊民可以選擇離開營地 |
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前往遊民收容所獲得戒癮或者心理健康的服務但若拒絕配合將面臨罰款或監禁以美國川普總統處理遊民的方式來看我請問內政部跟警政署你們有哪些我們可以來作為參考以避免採取這個採取的做法來 |
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那個署長包委員那有關遊民的問題應該都是在各縣市政府的這個設政單位啦那我們警察 因為最近發生很多問題啊那我們警察一定是會協助這一些的一個設政單位來做這個遊民的身份的清查甚至無家可歸的就是對於這個社務單位的一個機構的安置我想這個部分我們會來配合處理 |
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對於遊民所引發的整個社會治安的問題內政部未來是不是會積極來提出遊民專法或進行社會秩序的維護法來修法有沒有提出你們的想法 |
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因為遊民的這個主管機關是在各縣市政府的這個設政單位所以處理這個問題我們警政一定是會配合這個設政單位來做他們政策的一個最主要就是有地方給他做安置或者是讓他回家一定是這兩個問題嘛要安置或讓他回家不要在外面你們能夠提出一套比較周全而且讓他們也有一點尊嚴的做法 |
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我們是希望因為最近有一些遊民出狀況甚至於有一些其他的像遊民以外還是臨時發生一些狀況建議關出來以後結果這個 |
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造成社會的一些治安問題等等我是希望站在你們治安的立場應該要提出一些配套好的方式讓地方也能夠來做然後來杜絕未來再發生更多像這種狀況好不好是 好 謝謝謝謝好 謝謝林德文 |