| IVOD_ID |
164210 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164210 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-15T12:51:12+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-15T12:57:39+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:27 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d759c3dbefb57db69dd68f812a26ed0b1d8817d393176c43b6741136213cfef638f9d5c79002bdd25ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:51:12 - 12:57:39 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請農業部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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主席在場的原先進列席的中央市長官員 會長 工作夥伴 媒體記者 女士先生有請我們那個農業部陳部長請陳部長 謝謝部長好 老農津貼加上農退儲金保障獎對不對 |
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好來我們看一下現在老農津貼跟農退儲金農民退休有雙層保障113年我們就農業人口差不多快50萬對不對48.9萬現在我最新的統計是48.7萬沒關係我覺得大概是那個數字這65歲以上的人可以領老農津貼部分有參加農民退休儲金還可以多領一點農民退休儲金對不對 |
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現在老農今天大概有快45萬人在勤領沒有錯吧好那我們等一下看來老農今天跟農民退休儲金有什麼差別第一老農今天一年我們大概預算要編450億對不對差不多我們農民退休儲金要相對提撥要編31億對不對 |
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那目前的退休處境的規模大概245億在我們說的退休當中 準備當中是同性戀的啦因為剛開辦嘛 是不是跟勞退比起來 我們很小嘛 公退很小嘛那覆蓋率的話呢 目前有22萬3千人符合提領資格覆蓋率差不多有一半但是到另外一半的人他們有參加農退處境那以勤領人數呢 目前農退老農今天有將近四十萬人在領 |
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那目前已經65歲以上在領農民退休儲金的差不多一萬四 其他人還在交啦可是領多少呢 農民老農今天是八千一嘛那農民退休儲金的看你存多少 你存的少的就領八百五嘛存的多就領一萬一千七嘛 對不對 |
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所以每年我們大概領到農農津貼的人有領到437億那又領到退休儲金的人有1億多啦好 這個規模幫你整理一下好 往下看來 什麼樣的人會去參加農退儲金?老人還是年輕人?年輕人比較有優勢啊 |
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對 但是大多數是老人家去參加啦因為我們開辦的晚嘛開辦的晚對 所以要退休的人他有急迫感他趕快存 對不對啊 比較年輕的人還在那邊慢慢地看 是不是這樣對好 那我們要鼓勵年輕人及早開始就去參加自體對不對對要鼓勵對不對對你越年輕越多你吃老的時期你年紀越多 是不是這樣是所以說當年在這個農退處已經開辦的時候那時候蔡總統是不是只是行政院要支持我們農業部開辦 |
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對對不對 農業部跟我們這條集沒有 也是行政議員 我們走多邊的嘛 是不是這樣是好 那我們來看 來 請問當時行政院是不是支持我們31億 現在繼續支持是 是嗎 阿純 提撥的人越來越多 需要的錢越來越多你認為行政院會不會繼續支持應該會 應該會嘛如果農民自提越多 政府支持越多 農業部會不會沒辦法 |
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保證 這個是百分之一五指數嘛所以我們來看一下齁 這個農退處境有這個好處 來你對勞退有了解嗎 勞工退休金勞退呢 它包括雇主強制提撥跟勞工自提的 對不對雇主至少要提6% 現在都會提6% 沒有問題你知不知道 勞工自願提的是0到6 有多少提 你知不知道 |
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你那個勞動部的事 十幾%而已大概十六十七而已啦比起我們的農退有將近一半 數很多耶你覺得是什麼原因沒有政府相對補助嘛 農退有政府相對補助嘛勞退自體沒有政府相對補助嘛 是不是這樣所以如果說勞動部說好啦 勞工政府也支持別說相對啦 有給政府鼓勵 |
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雖然不是你的農業部 你在行政會給他斬針 給他支持嗎我不敢說沒有啦 不敢說 人家等你 支持你你現在把人要好 你才不敢說斬針我問你敢斬針喔沒有 這個牽扯到後面需要多少經費那些東西啊等一下 沒錯 當年行政院支持我們農退有說其他話嗎 |
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農業部我們了解 所以我們敢爭取 勞工的部分沒有啦 你自己好 人家現在兩勞動部也要請出你會說你怕不怕如果勞動部提出的方案我們會你會不會給他佔下最後呢 所以說到目前只有16%的人字體往下看如果說支持勞退字體的提撥比例你會支持嗎勞動部我們提你會給他佔下嗎 |
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拜託委員沒有啦 我是問你的邱靖的同意嘛你做一個朋友邱靖我會支持勞動部的提案好 這樣才好 來 勞動部現在要提了勞動部現在安生要提什麼只要說勞工自體願意自體增加超過1%政府就送1%你聽到這個會怕不怕 |
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會不會把他打破了我還沒有問那個勞動部的想法不是啦 如果他勞動部這樣提你會不會拍 給他鼓掌部長如果這樣講 洪部長這樣講你會不會把他打破了說有夠勇敢的 我在聽聽他在聽你會不會 |
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我支持他們的提案你會支持他的提案好最後呢所以部長你會支持如果勞動部提說政府也加送一趴勞退自體送一趴你在旁邊聽了會說部長讚 黃部長我給你支持 |
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最後 來因為我們以農民退休處境為借鏡我們為了鼓勵勞工退休自體如果說政府提出來 勞務提出來自體的話 政府送一趴提高自體的意願你給他暫省 醫療你要再增加他也會支持你啦 是不是這樣拜託 我們現在經濟要往回了我們討論的是農業的部分因為勞工的部分我不夠熟 但是我會支持我是在替你騙人錢啦你現在給他暫省 醫療你要增加人家才會替你說話啦 沒有沒有 |
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我會支持勞動 勞動部提的這些 好 謝謝好 謝謝 感謝 謝謝我們宗家兵委員質詢 謝謝部長 |