| IVOD_ID |
164176 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164176 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-15T11:30:40+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-15T11:42:48+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:08 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d759c3dbefb57db61db416c79bcd4dea1d8817d393176c4392e8362d61d61ef2c5eb4435e8f3c8585ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳超明 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:30:40 - 11:42:48 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請農業部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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主席首先有請我們農業部陳部長我們請陳部長陳部長這次你的業務報告指責就是支持產業安定就業照顧弱勢加強韌性但是我相信所有的報告裡面你都提到當然很多 |
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但是最重要就是跟美國的對等關稅對台灣農業的一個影響我看你一個報告裡面這樣寫美國是我國最重要的農產品貿易夥伴我們台灣為美國今年113年是進口了36.9億佔我們農業產品的22.3% |
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阿美國 臺灣是美國第八大的海外市場農產政府我們只要進口黃豆 玉米 小麥 牛肉對不對是再來你另外一個報告這樣寫說我們臺灣外銷到美國大概我們一年的話8.9億美金 |
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加上我們出口的農產品17.6%這裏面你說我們外銷美國最多的幾個產品蝴蝶蘭 茶葉 毛豆 吳郭魚 桂頭魚 鱸魚 蟋蟀 這種比較高 |
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看你的報告裡面 你講蝴蝶蘭其他國家跟我沒有競爭 只有荷蘭對不對主要的競爭對手是荷蘭茶葉 我們做高精緻的茶葉沒有影響我們做混合茶才有影響混合茶是從越南進口 台灣再去調配的 |
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毛豆我們的競爭對手是中國大陸中國大陸現在57% 100%化也不是我們競爭對手 |
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那烏龜魚裡面銷到美國的時候只要是越南 中國大陸這幾個國家關稅都比我們還要高 也不是我們的對手過頭魚我就跟你們說是在中南美洲 秘魯那個地方產的 我們這邊銷吃劑當然品質有差這一點我比較沒內行 我不跟你們說 |
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阿魯伊也是在中南美洲 我們台灣區土耳其土耳其啦 我跟你講 土耳其現在的關稅也非常的高所以你們要清楚 美國的最多關稅啊其實跟我們農業影響不大但是這裡面我常常想一個問題 |
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你說帶藥團到美國四年要買100億美金的美國農產品對不對?對不對?那個不用說 等我問完你再說嘛我疑問點要講出來啦你自我表白我怎麼相信這台電容纜黃豆玉米小麥牛肉我為什麼談? |
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所以100億的美金 四年100億的美金我講得情緒不好 但是我們現在就進口大概這四種產品36.9億 37億 |
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你現在說四年一百億我再給你一年給二十五億美金要賺多少錢你要叫台灣去給我賺所以我覺得莫名其妙你說不是政府出錢了 |
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是那些產商出錢的 廠商沒辦法供啊你有沒有想到他有賣啦 台灣的需要量容納量有沒有那麼大哇 你講得迷迷糊糊 我是說你高雄資訊的都要講我可不可以做一點說明我們現在給你記喔 37億是這四種產品喔 |
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大量進口 你現在又4年100億 又多1個月比現在37億大概增加70%從美國進口 每一年喔我感覺你算是賣亂搞八道啦 |
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讓我很清楚的講我們這次的這樣的一個採購他是每兩年一次的例行採購那這個例行採購是業者自己去出資的你聽我說完好不好然後不然我每次都講不清楚 |
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然後本身我們簽的是購買的意願書不是購買的合約所以最後因為商人還是會看最後的價格所以這次是聯合採購是業者根據他的需求去採購的意願而已先去表達 |
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不一定要買最後一般就是最後因為現在美國的品質比較好價格也比較低所以相對的用年的採購會降低他們的採購成本第二個就是說這些產品他最主要是飼料用的沒有啦 我跟你講一個問題嘛現在37億美金是103年的進口嘛 |
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你兩人採購一次 美國人也可以算你不用跟我說 你說那個你4年內 我假設一年增加25億不是增加 不是增加 是包含在不過30 36億乘以4620 150億了你講100億的話 怎麼會通嘛 |
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你再拼著要救人嘛 這個一定是增加的嘛我們現在平均一年25億 四年100億那過去五年這些項目加起來也是22到25億之間 |
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那就是沒有選擇 要怎麼幫你不是 我們是用沒有 因為我們的採購年度的採購每兩年一次我跟你講 不是採購你依照這樣的算法沒有增加你去的功效也沒有多大 |
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我們主要就是為了對等干稅看能不能降到像日本 韓國一樣我跟你講 大家不要說假話你這樣算起來沒有增加他有什麼好高興說你很偉大把你巴結得很好 |
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一定是你四年中交的100億美金嘛我們這次的農法南區有兩個目的一個目的就是聯合採購一方面就是我們希望建立一個長久穩定的一個關係就是友好的關係所以採購本身比113年度因為他是根據當年度的價格會浮動 |
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所以是我們需要的我不是價格浮動啊我現在說4年裡面1年給1個月不是增加是原來的25億我們就給他買1個月啊你有什麼算法好啦你現在講出來回去再講我的意思啦你運氣夠強大不是沒有增加我們沒有額外採購喔現在每一年就買25億美金假設到你所講這4樣的東西25億4年100億你最多的100億的功用在哪裡 |
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你那個一百億已經追加了如果只有你有一百億沒什麼人開心他逼著你美國不會那麼老實的人啊我跟您講喔我們任德的商品有人買大家都很開心後來 還有鳳梨鳳梨 各自大離家我們現在你看喔 台灣政府都不要跟我造假喔 美國要進口我們鳳梨 我給你舉例 |
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109年中國大陸進口我們大概4800萬美金現在你外銷日本大概2200多萬美金一年那以前我在綠海岸的時候你們說把鳳梨外銷到澳洲市場很大每一年才九噸八噸 |
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啊你再回想一下如果我們的台灣貨你銷到美國去的時候怎麼銷 |
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你說要開放不要講的聲音那麼大就像澳洲一樣每一年才外銷奉尼巴頓而已阿根委員報告所有的市場開放它是一個逐步增加的一個過程不是瞬間就增加第二個部分美國的部分它不用去牙關我跟你說我不知道你現在幾點要出來還是要切片出來後面的重點在哪裡 |
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你整天出來 美國人很懶惰 人工貨業用非常高所以我今天一定要送 那些啊農業的對人關稅沒有什麼好怕的我現在叫你說 廣積糧 |
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值高強這台電力有什麼地方產品就加持成功 農產品所以你要把能量物流收好做大做廣做到每一個地方都有那是存糧食最有效最能保值的地方 |
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你現在兩岸物流不去加強你說要依靠什麼都給 你最先要保證我們兩岸物流的計畫在第二期也有經費你一定要這麼做不然這個時候世界情勢非常緊張我們把自己兩岸物流顧好萬一有事情我們可以把東西保存起來這是我前兩年再來 |
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這樣說要仔細站起來 我實在很短業務報告那麼多 只有7分鐘可以講話要是我當召委 我一定12分鐘好好問一下 要了解 再一下我拜託 農後漁港還有苗栗的兩面霧流還有我後龍的那個 那個叫什麼雜糧專輯 三四樣給我拜託 你有答應我了所以要全力的輔導苗栗縣對不對 |
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我又有說過這樣的話 說會來協助苗栗協助沒有 你說會全力幫忙跟協助 現在嬌娜這個後續喔 因為你現在真的說我是外公啊 我是看到你兩面物流啊我們會協助啊 會全力協助啊兩面物流就兩面物流 你怎麼又有增加了一夜兩面物流 哈里布跟武昌暢宇 |
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你這邊有沒有報告什麼增加1億的能量物流物流 能量物流就是一個系統好 謝謝陳昌明委員謝謝我們會盡量來協助啊你越來越客氣啊 |
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不是 因為現在很多財務法的關係不是財務法 這個是我以前講好的既定政策我當初的承諾的時候那時候財務法沒有這兩年的立法會變成一筆勾勾我就覺得我們沒有在做事情啊主席 站起來讓你稍講話安全一點謝謝 謝謝 |