| IVOD_ID |
164168 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164168 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-15T11:28:29+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-15T11:34:12+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:43 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d759c3dbefb57db63cd93b669ad8948597bc26f8a2da105892e8362d61d61ef2f4276e10a0b5a9ff5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:28:29 - 11:34:12 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿、審計部陳審計長瑞敏率所屬單位主管列席業務報告，並備質詢。
【10月13日、15日及16日三天一次會】） |
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馬上請主席長 謝謝我們請陳主席長主席長 你好明年的教育經費是減列了27.7%是不是減列了908億 是嗎 |
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這個部分不是減劣 而是因為它財政收支發昏化修正的一個結果那就是比今年少了嘛 比今年少了嘛但是它是整個總經費它並沒有減少所以它是依照規定來編列然後它是由地方不是啦 我現在講總預算啦我現在講總預算啦 我現在講總預算明年的總預算是3兆350億 對吧比今年還增加了1100億 |
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但是總預算裡面教育經費的編列是比今年減少了908億這是客觀數字嘛客觀數字我想請教一下主計總署應該對於每個部會分配多少預算應該是有建議權吧還是說還是說其實是你們先算你們各部會報上來然後最後你會根據整個政府的施政的優先順序然後要求大家增加還是減少 |
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是怎麼樣一個你們運作是怎麼樣一個運作方式我們大概分成幾塊一個就是重大建設計畫這個部分那這個部分是屬於那個國化會在負責那另外一個是重大科技的一個計畫的部分那是那個科技部在 |
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那另外一個就是說那個社會發展的部分我沒有太多時間啦我只是覺得說教育你認為因為地方的統籌分配稅款增加你就跟教育部說你少編一點錢讓地方去付 |
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那其他的部會的錢呢你就覺得他很重要就有增加的空間所以在現在整個政府的施政裡面對於教育這一塊好像讓人家感覺不是那麼重視 |
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好像覺得說這個教育經費不用增加然後呢再來就是地方因為統籌分配稅款增加了所以有一些支出就地方你去付就好了就不關我中央的事了那中央政府對於教育這一塊你們都不重視喔好那這第一個我提出來的問題第二個問題是現在按照那個主席長的說法因為很多錢要地方去付 |
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對吧 因為誰叫台積發通過了可是問題是一般中央給地方錢有三種嘛同時分配稅款之外還有一般性補助款跟計畫性補助款那你現在一般性補助款的做法跟以前也不一樣啦 |
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現在的一般性補助款的做法很像以前的計劃性補助款就是地方如果你有需要你來申請我中央呢看狀況給你有的不見得要給你有的我就給你一半以下所以中央補助款扣的部分有的縣市擔心說你一般性補助款會不會扣一扣扣到比他統籌分配稅款增加的還要多到時候他們拿的錢也沒有比較多啊 |
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還有就是計劃型補助款我舉新北市的例子喔新北市的捷運去跟中央去申請90億結果忽然間公文過去回來之後跟新北市講說我要少給你72%那你要地方怎麼去規劃他的財政支出啊 |
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這個部分我先講交通的部分交通的部分交通部這個部分他是沒有減只是因為我們這經費整個是沒辦法編列上去所以這個是他往後延所以這個部分是屬於捷運的部分那再來就是說什麼叫往後延等於說以後他再該補足 |
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他會再補足只是今年不給你的意思是說72%是今年不給以後會把這7.5萬補完因為今年大部分都是要舉債了都是所以這個部分他就貨配的額度裡面去做分配那分配有的是按照工程的一個進度去做分配還有第二個問題是很多是中央去地方說要做的東西啊比如說那個過去講說班班有冷氣嘛電費中央來出嘛 |
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而中央承諾的東西現在中央也不補助了叫地方去出所以大家才會講說這叫中央請客地方買單那這個狀況也很多啊斑斑油冷氣這已經施行多年了我是舉例啦我是舉例啦那還有很多其他的嘛譬如說像我們在新北市交通部那時候幫民進黨立委助選啊跑到板橋來說要蓋太阪輕軌的攝後支線啊說錢都準備好了啦要來蓋啦那這個錢會給嗎 |
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292.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
309.012 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
這個部分整個要看你不能講說選舉的時候就來這邊開支票然後選後那個地方來跟中央申請的時候要嘛可行性研究卡半天要嘛就是給了錢在這邊卡就覺得因為地方統籌稅款已經增加會出現這個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
311.474 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
330.984 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
沒有他一般沒有我現在因為撿到了我只建議主席走地方現在是覺得說很多都搞不清楚狀況到底錢怎麼給補助會不會減少搞不清楚狀況其實會蠻困擾的真的你們中央地方不能開個會嗎可以我們經常我們已經開過三次會了開過三次會但是據說啦就是能夠去參加的人也很少 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
331.764 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
341.658 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
因為主要是財主單位然後針對大家關鍵性的一些問題也都沒有回答所以大家現在還是無撒撒啦主要是財主要回去說明啦好 趕快解決啦好 謝謝 |