| IVOD_ID |
164138 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164138 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-15T10:52:13+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-15T11:04:18+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:05 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d759c3dbefb57db6be8d3db28ffa21be97bc26f8a2da105892e8362d61d61ef24081f7d117a098d95ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
顏寬恒 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:52:13 - 11:04:18 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿、審計部陳審計長瑞敏率所屬單位主管列席業務報告，並備質詢。
【10月13日、15日及16日三天一次會】） |
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主席各位烈士官員大家好主席有請主席長我們請陳主席長委員好主席長早是主計總署公佈8月份失業率再度走升到3.45%是比7月份高也是近一年的新高失業人數41.5萬比7月增加6000人 |
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工時不足就業人數有12.1萬月增4000人創今年以來新高除了畢業生投入職場推升失業率還有無薪假人數也變多了這種情況表示說關稅的影響已經開始發酵衝擊我國出口產業以及進口的物價同時 |
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國內也面臨電價油價原物料及食品價格上漲那整體的CPI維持高檔那面對這種情況我認為說主席總署作為政府經濟數據分析與預測的重要機關有責任就關稅變動對我國通膨 |
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產業鏈與民生經濟的影響進行完整評估與預警請教主席長目前是否已針對美中貿易戰持續擴大美國對電動車半導體鋼鋁製品等項目加徵關稅進行跨部會的衝擊模擬有沒有相關的報告 |
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這個部分是因為它是涉及到關稅的部分它一向都是由副院長在主持這個部分那這個部分我們在討論的時候說有針對傳統產業因為傳統產業影響是比較大而且它目前很早就顯現出來所以說主委長有沒有這個進行跨部會的一個衝擊模擬那相關的報告可不可以給我辦公室提供是我們這個部分我們就有這個報告嗎有嗎 |
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目前是沒有這個報告我們是不是請相關的單位來提供那請提供給我再來就是關稅變動影響外銷那也藉由 |
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透過這樣子的一個進口成本進口的成本來推升國內的這些物價所以我要提醒主計長剛剛提到的這些相關的製造業包含食品 農產品 家電 汽車零組件都直接關乎民生如果不及早掌握與預警年底的CPI恐怕會再突破兩趴那最後受害的都還是民眾不能一拖再拖說關稅還沒有談完這樣子的說法這說法是 |
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不能夠被接受希望在未來的一個報告當中納入完整的一個關稅衝擊分析就我剛剛跟你說的跨部會的一個衝擊模擬提供給其他部會完整的一個關稅衝擊分析提供給其他部會相關的建議重點就是要減輕對企業還有民眾的一個衝擊可不可以 |
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這個部分我們其實雖然韌性特別預算還沒有通過但是有一些相關經費事實上就已經在進行了所以這個部分對於傳統產業的一些相關的一個補助或協助的措施都已經展開了並不是說現在在原地不動不是這樣的 |
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所以這個部分我跟委員報告這個部分像經濟部他對中小企業相關的一個貸款的一個補助各方面產業的一個協助這方面他們都已經啟動了上週處理任性特別預算中這個普發現金一萬塊能夠提供多少的這個GDP的增幅你跟國發會就有不同的看法 |
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國發會預估是會成長0.415%主計總數評估是會增加0.65那都是正向的那就代表說有刺激到整體的經濟可不可以請你說明一下 |
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我要再說明一下就是國化會是針對花1萬塊的部分他是去顧的部分那我們是針對5500億除了這個1萬塊之外還有投注下去的他會產生0.65的一個GDP的影響 |
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所以兩個合計起來是1.1個百分比的一個影響所以等於是說我還有一個任性的一個國防任性的一個部分還有一個就是發放現金的部分國防會是針對發放現金的部分來評估那我們是針對發放現金之外來做評估所以兩個的評估點是不一樣的 |
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好的那財政部預估說最快發放的時間是在11月中旬那請教一下這個時間會不會影響你對GDP的一個預估 |
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因為我們預估點大部分就是說他會分114或115因為他有分三個年度在執行所以本身如果是屬於國安任性的部分他是比較偏後面115或116的一個影響如果是發案信心他會比較偏在114和115的一個影響好的那主席這個可不可以請沈記長跟主記長一起 謝謝我們請沈記長 |
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在這邊先恭喜沈記長留任這也代表說大家對你的信任同時沈記長也時常針對預算濫用的部分直言不諱所以希望未來的時間你也能夠繼續好好監督整個政府的施政請教兩位一般性補助款違法定義務支出 |
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那中央可以隨便刪減嗎 可以嗎兩位 署計長跟審計長 |
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我要跟委員報告因為依照那個地方制度還有一個財政紀律法一個相關的一個財劃法相關的規定是說它對於地方應辦的事項著於補助著於補助不是說我一定要補助是著於補助所以我們一般性補助款和計劃性補助款它的重點是在均衡各縣市的一個經濟 |
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來 那請沈記長 |
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大概這個114年的這個636億大院都一直很關注行政院這邊提出追加通過我想能夠趕快分配到各縣市去再按照計畫分配縣市這個問題就可以處理完成我們都知道法條都寫得很清楚一般性補助館立法院沒有資格刪中央機關中央政府也沒有 |
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所以應該要按照預算的編制或者是預算的審議來進行依照法律的規定來執行 |
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一般性補助款不要把民眾這個對於政府地方政府一些弱勢需要長期照顧的這些特定的群眾跟族群但是不要苛扣這些補助款這些都是攸關地方民生議題的一個經費不要把民眾的生活納入這種 |
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政治攻防當中這樣只會造成讓需要這筆這樣一個補助款過日子的民眾更辛苦所以我想請兩位把一般性補助款刪減這個議題分別給我一份報告給我辦公室好不好好 |
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我想請主席長你不要把回應新聞的東西寫在裡面新聞上的我都有看到針對一般性補助款刪減的議題一份給我主席長請回主席長請回 |
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我再請教因為我們台中捷運南線依照原本的比例去計算明年中央應該要補助台中新台幣42億但是最後卻只承諾合撥1.68億短省了高達96% |
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那這種做法等於是嚴重的違背中央跟地方的合作承諾也直接衝擊到台中捷運南線的一個建設時程那台中市民不是次等公民因為台中市作為全國人口第二多的直轄市中央政府沒有任何理由刪減這筆補助款 |
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那國人的眼睛都是雪亮的請中央政府不要大小眼那尤其捷運南線是台中市一個重大的一個建設可以串聯海線 山線跟市中心那不僅能夠緩解交通擁捨更能夠促進地方發展帶動產業的投資南線越少完工台中市民就能夠享受這樣子一個便利那相反的如果因為中央這樣子的刁難或者拖延 |
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不只是通勤族的受苦台中的經濟 觀光產業都會受到影響這是一件非常嚴重的事情所以我想在這邊我要再次先請主計長跟交通部 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
597.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
618.442 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
好好的溝通好不好謝謝 謝謝那省計長這邊政府在推動新青安貸款當初的構想是想要幫助無殼蝸牛買屋我們看到省計部決算報告中新青安有貸後短壽的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
619.443 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
639.514 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
而且貸款者的房價負擔比例偏低者跟過低者合計有達到3成5已經超過合理的一個負擔範圍那對於新青安優惠的利率寬鬆的條件那財政部在去年中也緊急踩煞車 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
640.595 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
663.643 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
那要求這些聖代護必須切結要用於自住變成一生現代一次等要求銀行清查違規貸款並且追回補貼利息那到今年二月底總計查核三波那連同舊青安追回的利息金額達到兩千七百多萬那這些這些情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
665.476 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
693.005 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
想要請教沈記長就是說是不是說一旦寬限期屆滿這些一定會有增加核待戶的這個房貸風險新清安政策應該要通盤檢討措施以及這個錢存信用風險精準的協助無自用住宅的一個無自用住宅者購屋這樣才能夠真正的來幫助到需要幫助的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
694.125 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
721.782 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
那而不是說變成一個變相的帶頭炒房的政策是不是這樣子好 報告二位委員我們一直新清安的現象出來以前我們一直注意到這個現象所以我們去查了他大概有一千多戶都會住住所以我們也請他來那個我們會照爲的意思繼續關心新清安的這個貸款的問題來協助政府推動整個住宅政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
724.428 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
724.448 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
謝謝顏委員 |