| IVOD_ID |
164066 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164066 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-13T13:18:18+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-13T13:28:39+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:21 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5d6d14916e595edcb7fe0bc0075897e4179f4a20aeac8eafeaa2f1cd0be3abd6a4760fc26950f44b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:18:18 - 13:28:39 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部部長、原住民族委員會主任委員、農業部部長率所屬單位就「堰塞湖監測、災害預警通報、疏散機制及災後復原重建」進行專題報告，並備質詢，另請經濟部、環境部、衛生福利部、行政院公共工程委員會派員列席備詢。） |
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主席有请内政部还有农业部经济部委员好部长还有大家都辛苦了今天这个本席提出一些这个资料不是要救者就是要从这个这一次的灾害我们怎么样去做更好的一个防范好我们看这一次的马太安宴赛府 |
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花蓮光復及鳳嶺的嚴重災害有三大項第一個就是人民的傷亡人民的傷亡的原因當然跟沒有完全撤離有關係這是第一個第一個原因第二個為處理防範菸塞浮潰壩這是第二個原因其實主要的原因第三個人民傷亡就提防為修築 |
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加固加高这两个才是最重要的撤离是最后的好第二个房屋淹水土石家具冲毁汽车机车冲毁农田农作物淹埋土石加上道路还有很多的公务设施被冲毁他主要原因以撤离无关跟撤离没有关系 |
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是跟著嗎沒有處理防範菸塞浮潰壩沒有防範潰壩另外當然就是提防沒有修組未修組加固加高第三個馬太安溪的橋沖毀當然主要就是這個菸塞浮沒有處理沒有防範潰壩我們看這個今天 |
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這個災害防救法第22條為減少災害發生或防止災害擴大各級政府要怎麼怎麼樣要減災包括治山防洪及其他國土保安災害潛勢危險度近況模擬與風險評估之調查分析及事實公布其結果都有公布了我們看一下 |
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今天經農業部的報告你們從114年7月下旬來談今天的這麼重大的災害這是你們今天的報告提到花蓮分數7月26號空情然後提到7月26號林業署花蓮分數成立菸塞浮應變小組一個花蓮分數 |
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这个层级就有需要检讨一个花莲分数他能够他只能找一些比如说九合分数对不对所以这个层级就有问题就需要检讨好我们看农业部的报告7月26号起这个谣策分数然后怎么做这些工作8月158月11阳明大选 |
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成大8月20號已經是8月中旬以後了這個都是要去針對這一次的災情這麼大怎麼樣去做更好的一個措施好我們看這個農業部的報告7月26號剛剛講了花蓮分署召開應變小組8月6號花蓮分署防災工作 |
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也是花蓮分屬而已一直到8月27號才提高到行政院的成績行政院折承農業部還是折承農業部而已所以這個部分從這樣的我們還沒有全部列好我們來看這是農業部林業署的 |
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资料这是你们的马太安西燕塞浮现况的报告单这里面写得很清楚马安西支流92年已有崩塌现象109年起我把字放大109年起支流上游裸露面积逐年扩大 |
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以其主流馬鞍溪匯流處有時有細水有時無細水細水面積0.25公頃113年康瑞颱風加大7年我們就我們就不談109好了最起碼7年7年113年我們要深刻的來檢討好我們看 |
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本席在8月初開始知道媒體開始知道這個訊息所以我在8月13號提了這個附帶結議這裡面提的很重要的就是說工程方面工程措施方面挖一紅道修築堤防故傳功德 |
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這個在8月15號8月15號立法院通過了這個結議本席在8月20號發文給相關的部會召開協調會因為我看到訊息說10月初就要一流了所以我8月20號開了協調會特別提到 |
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要依立法院的決議 開挖易洪道 開挖易洪道有困難最起碼修築堤防 故傳功德寫得非常清清楚楚很遺憾當時的會議 水利署請來的是誰呢一樣九合集 他能做嗎 沒有預算給他沒有經費給他 他怎麼去做呢 對不對 |
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好我們看就是有發生了個災害之後水利署很辛苦的動員了各分署的機器工程人員10月5號加高完成10月5號從8月24號發生災害9月24號發生9月23號發生災害9月24號開始 |
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去看了解再寫9月25號緊急施作短短的時間所以如果我們從去年抗類颱風之後如果能夠積極的處理不要說一洪道了防範潰壩真的有困難的話最起碼是修築堤防 |
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就不會衝到部落 衝到社區衝毀這個相關的人民所以這個部分中企就是明年4月會完成復建工程所以這個時間你看如果當初當然水利署你沒有經費必須行政要給你經費所以這個部分都是環環相扣的環環相扣 |
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我們看這個經濟部的報告好國有林地菸塞浮應變標準作業程序請問一下這個林業署農業部這個國有林地菸塞浮應變標準作業程序是你們訂的嗎對你們訂的對不對要不要檢討要嘛要檢討要檢討 |
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現在顯然這個應變標準作業程序難以防範難以所以這個都是要檢討所以你們很辛苦的去救災的同時怎麼樣把防範因為台灣多山啊多菸塞浮啊所以這個部分 |
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多要所以看到這樣的一個情形真的我們不要集中在某些該檢討的當然要檢討該怎麼樣能夠做得更好防範未來非常非常的重要所以這個部分也請這個尤其是內政部因為障害防救法是你們的法律 |
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主管機關怎麼樣災害的預防更甚於後續的救災所以這個部分災害預防非常非常的重要大家一起加油一起努力謝謝好謝謝委員支持 |