| IVOD_ID |
164041 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164041 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-13T10:56:22+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-13T11:24:20+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:27:58 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5d6d14916e595edc98ba5bc2a5c8b504179f4a20aeac8eaf54e55ddf1b168a31288fdc86b9d8d4b55ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
傅崐萁 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:56:22 - 11:24:20 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部部長、原住民族委員會主任委員、農業部部長率所屬單位就「堰塞湖監測、災害預警通報、疏散機制及災後復原重建」進行專題報告，並備質詢，另請經濟部、環境部、衛生福利部、行政院公共工程委員會派員列席備詢。） |
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那個主席請劉部長有請劉部長部委好部長請問從馬丹西葉社服務不幸事件到現在已經21天請問檢討報告出來沒有我們在今天對於內政委員會裡面的報告就是內政部的完整的報告就是檢討報告是什麼 |
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它是一個整體的報告包括從監測 監討報告什麼時候出來我們現在仍然在救災當中我們可不可以等那個所有的救災都結束的時候所以監討報告還沒有出來嗎還沒有完整 請問一下這一次燕射湖不幸事件到底是溢流還是潰壩 |
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我想這專有名詞是不是可以請林保署來做回應因為在監測的時候不管是疫苗或潰瘡或是潰瘡請問一下你是這次華家沙颱風跟驗射狐不慶事件遭殃在應變中心指揮官是誰是我 |
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是你所以現在到底是潰壩還是議題你到今天還沒有辦法搞清楚是嗎我想不是這樣子的解釋跟副委員報告我們有提到說他從一流開始到最後下切到非常嚴重的時候可能有產生潰壩可能有產生潰壩但是這樣的專有名詞的解釋還是需要以專家他們的認定為主我並不是說不知道這個狀況所以說指揮官到現在都還不知道是一流跟潰壩 |
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還沒有辦法做最後的定義就對了但是我們沒有抱歉我們的意思就是說既然他產生災害我們就在中央災害應變中心以應變的方式來處理所有這樣子的天然災害好在發生事件之前所有行政院各部會會診的資料是溢流還是潰壩災害發生之前是溢流還是潰壩 |
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所以農業部沒有跟您開過會是嗎所以你都在狀況外都不了解嗎 |
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為什麼在國會殿堂到今天事發21天你都還不敢在這裡承認是溢流還是潰壩請告訴全國人民是溢流還是潰壩 |
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都有可能都有可能但是我們跟委員所說的現在定義不明確的狀況之下我們無法做這樣子的明確的解釋到現在說可能是潰壩也可能是溢流好在災情發生之前你們提的報告是溢流還潰壩我可不可以請林保守跟你回答本席請你回答你是指揮官 |
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報告委員我一再強調我知道但是是華家沙颱風成立的中央災害應變中心我是擔任指揮官但是在這之前在這之前在這之前在9月23號本席因為等卓榮泰院長來拜訪最後請我到中央災害應變中心去本席去了 |
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本席在當場聽到您的報告是不是講一流 是不是是不是您的報告是不是講一流 還有錄音錄影喔是 因為我是引用您保守的資料摘錢在發生前幾個小時應變中心指揮官還說是一流謝謝你 |
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本席那天特別當了索隆泰院長跟各部會指揮官尤其是您面前本席特別提到在8月13號丹納斯特別條例通過的時候把馬太西堰舍湖納入必須要徹底解決農業部長陳俊濟當眾表達沒有立即性的危險 |
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本席當天還特別強調為什麼說沒有立即性的危險然後現在說可能會逆流好本席那天講的話你既然報告裡沒有寫到本席的名字請你完整一下把我當天提出來的意見要寫上去今天你的報告有提到本席的名字請把本席當天講的事情一併寫清楚再過來請問一下指揮官 |
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什麼時候發布紅色警戒總諮詢問過一次 再問一次紅色警戒中央災害應變中心什麼時候發布紅色警戒9月22日早上7點本席在問部長嘛 |
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部長是不知道這個時間還要你來講嗎報告委員我們都非常清楚發射紅色警戒是農業部要負責發射北溪問題都是很簡單的問題所以9月22號上午7點紅色警戒部長是嗎是嗎 |
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剛剛我們的林保署的署長已經跟你回應了這個問題還要請別人回答你沒有辦法不敢面對我們的全責分工上面非常的清楚報告委員全責分工很清楚指揮官什麼都不知道就對了9月17號農業部的報告在院會總質詢你問過一次農業部當天好這請農業部來回答當天9月17號農業部的報告 |
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說到撤離人數是多少人陳俊基已經在院會講過了跟委員報告那個時候還沒有花家殺颱風的因素不是嘛就告訴本席嘛你們很奇怪耶你問你自己提出的報告上面寫幾個人還有這麼多理由嗎 |
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58戶但是人數是由地方政府提供人數是由地方政府提供的本席要請你看一下你農業部的報告是嗎我知道上面是寫45人但是那個人數是地方政府提供的我們只框定區域好58戶45人而且那個下面還有一個附註他是說不包含會議的影響那個委員剛剛那個一句話下面還有一句話再過來 |
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9月21號 農業部的報告 9月21號好洪峰到達的時間從本來的95分鐘 修正到多少本來的95分鐘 請次長來回答你們不要在那裡喔120分鐘好 120分鐘所以 |
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原本預估是95分鐘在9月21號改成120分鐘認為災情即便是有災情沒有這麼嚴重是90分鐘延到120分鐘然後要撤離的對象從修正前也就是楊柳颱風楊柳颱風撤離多少戶多少人最後是將近700人259戶697人 |
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你們9月21號修正以後是多少比楊柳颱風多還是比楊柳颱風少也是差不多600多人那個範圍有稍微縮減一點但是也有新的增加但是這個是我還是要說明一下本席在說話請你回答再會請你你們的資料改從259戶的楊柳颱風改成縮小範圍180戶 |
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這是農業部的資料清清楚楚好所以這不是不叫而殺而已啊是農業部的範圍整體一直在縮小我跟委員報告這個隨著情勢一定會一直調整的所以請劉部長您剛剛在本委員會報告說好9月21號下午 |
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下午3點以後改成撤離將近1800戶對不對總共1837戶當時是黃色警戒還是紅色警戒 9月21號9月21號當時還沒有紅色警戒對 所以是什麼警戒黃 黃色警戒所以當時的黃色警戒要撤離哪些人依法要撤離哪些人 |
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報告委員9月21號下午3點是一個檢討的會議跟討論的會議所以我們當時已經決定採用台大團隊最高的標準本席現在再一次請教您要撤離哪些人黃色警戒本席先問一個最簡單的題目9月21號貴行政院指揮中心黃色警戒要撤離的是 |
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行動不變的人你都到今天還搞不清楚本席告訴你行動不變的人所以45位行動不變在這一次完全免於災就在黃色警戒的時候45位愛養中心的全部撤離因為那個時候黃色警戒是要撤離行動不變好9月22號上午7點紅色警戒 |
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到9月23號自災短短一天之內請問行政院災害應變中心有沒有跟地方政府來協調來輔導來核定怎麼樣的疏散計畫 有沒有 |
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報告委員到紅色警戒開始的時候是強制撤離強制撤離的時候就是開始要疏散所有在這個三個象徵公署裡面的人有作業規定嘛行政院都已經上次總質詢上禮拜二總質詢已經就教過了嘛到現在你們都還搞不清楚嗎這麼大的範圍從185變成1800再變成8600人 |
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你們的整體的疏散計畫有七個部會必須要來輔導而且必須要來核定你們在22號早上有沒有積極的來處理這個問題 有沒有 |
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我們當然是非常這是法律規定的作為規定有沒有有沒有報告委員強制疏散撤離如果才需要公文來核定的話太慢應該是所有的人開始要做動作那這些動作需要國軍或是替代役幫忙我們都全力協助強制撤離是由哪一個單位來執行還是由地方政府包括花蓮縣政府以及三個鄉鎮公所 |
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胡說八道由國軍跟其他的人來協助胡說八道災害防救法第10條水災潛勢地區速戰作業標準這是常識你在高雄市政府擔任過秘書長不要在這裡裝瞎我在高雄市政府沒有擔任過秘書長你是副市長沒有關係不要裝瞎不要裝瞎災害防救法第10條 |
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水災潛勢危險地區撤離標準作業程序誰哪個單位政府哪個單位負責哪個單位負責哪個單位負責水災的部分是由經濟部但是呢我們依據災害防救法的第10條鄉鎮市山地原住民以及山地原住民災害防救匯報的核定 |
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是由哪個單位負責撤離我剛已經跟那個委員報告過了你不認識字嗎你照這個第十條念出來給我聽不要在這裡裝瞎嘛再加上經濟部災害防救法第十條是指鄉鎮三地原住民區公所跟三地原住民的災害防救匯報他們的任務鄉鎮市還有三地原住民區域地方的鄉鎮公所及 |
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三地原住民區域防救匯報任務如下所有這些疏散作業是由執行單位是哪個單位剛剛我跟委員報告過了再把潛勢溪流這個水災辦法水災的潛勢溪流我想是由經濟部來主導來疏散及收容作業 |
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蘇珊吉收容作業是哪個單位負責蘇珊吉撤離作業都是依照災害防救法相關規定縣市政府還有鄉鎮工作來做主導你不要一直扯縣市政府嘛你連白紙黑紙都不會讀嗎哪一個政府單位負責撤離作業縣市政府跟鄉鎮工作你是瞎了是嗎 |
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你把全文讀一次給本席聽你們今天全部人都裝瞎這個不會讀是嗎要不要到國小重新讀一支書讀一次讀一次 |
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這下市及縣市政府應督導鄉鎮市區公所辦理撤離作業整備並落實疏散避難計劃鄉鎮市公所應整備事項如下有五項好講得很清楚了你們不要在這裡影射攻擊撤離單位不管是颱風全國各縣市都一樣你可以下去了 |
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你可以下去請部長上來每一個縣市政府都做過颱風的撤離颱風的撤離所有撤離的工作由鄉鎮市公所各區區公所來撤離所有該區的警察、消防、軍卡、預知兵力通通由鄉鎮市公所、區政府、區公所來負責撤離的工作 |
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把資料撤離之後匯整到縣市政府縣市政府是報到中央災害應變中心所有縣市政府的能量全部下放到各鄉鎮公所應變中心由各鄉鎮公所應變中心來指揮這是最基本的Lesson 1叫你們念念國字都不敢念天天栽贓花蓮縣政府好 你們要栽贓花蓮縣政府 可以 |
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撤離執行單位就是鄉鎮市公所白紙黑字的法律規定再過來你說扯到花蓮縣政府可以花蓮縣政府之前所有中央災害應變中心要求他們撤離是600人楊柳颱風8月12號撤離600人所以所以 |
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剛剛還有人提大馬村全數撤離大馬村就是楊柳颱風600人裡面全村就在那個範圍就是因為在那個範圍所以全數撤離因為他們已經全部撤離過一次這次是第二次本席在這裡啊隆重告訴你行政院政務委員金連成現在在花蓮前進協調所跟地方政府 |
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協調七個部會依法要輔導地方政府要核定疏散疏散計畫疏散路線疏散收容還有五個部會必須跟地方政府要來對整個收容的整備計畫要做出來現在從10月3號討論到 |
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從10月3號討論到現在11天都還沒有演練都還沒有核定你短短9月22號紅色警戒9月22號紅色警戒你要一天之內要光復相公所撤離8600人從600人變成8600人當然我要對部長 |
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你給地方的建議可以垂直撤離已經事實證明垂直撤離是不可行的所以這也是固然是撤離的方式之一但是過去台灣都沒有使用過這次您特別強調劉部長要不要我幫您回憶一下還是要放您的錄音帶給您聽聽看有沒有需要謝謝委員指教 |
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要垂直撤離嘛最多是家門口有水淹過而已嘛 |
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報告委員我想我的實意不是這個樣子我正在從當時的所有的直播的狀況錄音錄影的部分把原先所講的字數或是我講的部分全部把它一字一字把它列出來那我所了解不是這樣的狀況委員可能誤解人生沒有關係啦全國國人可以來看啦報告委員隨時避難的人數呢總共是5348人檢討報告有一個很重要我請你啊 |
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本席在詢問法務部在詢問卓院長通通詢問過請您把檢討報告裡面要把這兩項加進去剛剛我謝謝蘇委員 蘇喬瑋委員也有問過8月11號花蓮縣政府官務相公所 農業部 經濟部所做的決議有錄音 有會議記錄要求農業部必須釋放 |
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海嘯警報請問指揮官放了沒有在9月23之前沒有釋放過9月23號當天海嘯來有釋放嗎沒有再過來農業部很奇怪經濟部有問題農業部又提醒農業部有問題但農業部又提醒經濟部 |
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去年康瑞颱風就是從這次的一流口進來的兩個開口題要請他補起來有錄音有會計錄結果經濟部把這兩個開口題又沒有把它補好大水就是從那裡進來就是從那裡進來部長可以把這個納入檢討報告可以嗎 |
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這個在我會請農業部跟經濟部把相關的會議記錄把它列出來給賴總統的報告前進協調所給賴總統的報告第一頁就講得很清楚厭賽福警戒發布第一個就講得很清楚要發海嘯警報行政院在制正農業部其罪 |
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還不只這樣行政院又自證經濟部其罪在前進協調所的報告10月4號完成第一道5米防線2860公尺5米高的防線還提前兩天作業完成8月11號會議記錄就叫他要做為什麼災後他才會做 災前都不會做沒有 |
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那2870米是颱風來的時候沖毀的沒有關係啦不是在那次的專案小組專案小組會議的交代的事項我們都已經完成了你要回去跟卓榮泰院長講卓榮泰院長說要依法調查要依法調查還給亡靈啊還給亡靈一個公道你跟卓榮泰院長去報告吧他不查未來還有人會查接下來 |
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最後我要請教劉思芳劉部長我們有沒有中央政府劉部長我們有沒有中央政府有沒有應變中心報告委員我們當然有中央政府但是中央災害應變中心注重在應變 請問一下災情發生之後到現在為了炒誰是主責 |
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本席在10月7號問了左院長這一題問了整整三分鐘他才承認主責單位是行政院各部會災後救災的部分是行政院各部會那我請問一下鋪天蓋地的謠言依照災害防救法應該要來告發是三年以下有期徒刑病科罰金100萬請問內政部告發了幾件 |
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報告委員我們尊重院長的指示先救災再救責那目前為止呢我們 主要在院長9月24號就去救責了報告講得這麼清楚報告委員我要放他的錄影帶出來再放給你看嗎我們現在收集到他到行政院提的施政總報告馬上就提要救責要查到底這是院長提的本席在這裡 |
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證告你你說九次通報九次通報花蓮縣政府草菅人民不管九次通報是只有第九次是紅色警戒其他前面六次是八月的洋柳颱風這種造謠的圖卡一天到晚再傳第二組黨一組團白飯 齁 卓榮泰院長還說你們組黨一組團白飯請問一組團白飯部長 |
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是誰阻擋的是誰阻擋的報告委員我不清楚那該不該要查報告委員我剛還沒有昨晚院長都公開講了嘛說你們黨議組團的白飯誰擋的報告委員我們現在尖冰跟保錦內政部來的保錦擋下來的誰擋的 |
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該不該當 報告委員 本席問你該不該當報告委員 我還是跟委員報告就是我們現在在收集所有的資料本席要你知道 你收集了這麼多天地方政府疲於救災十分的力量在救災還有透支二十分的力量來對付謠言所以請地方政府把這些謠言送給中央災害應變中心我們一定用災害防救法來移送 都沒有問題內政部這麼大的部沒有辦法查辦嗎 沒有辦法告發嗎一天到晚看到這些 |
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本席沒有責怪沒有責怪憲兵因為他們在詢問是否有義務要進去災區災區裡面全部塞得滿滿有幾萬人在裡面種機械連會車都沒有辦法他們本來就要問你進來要幹什麼他們不只是一組團的白飯問清楚又讓他們進去了 |
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也沒有阻擋 問清楚就進去了直接的藥品 問清楚也都進去了沒有一個 沒有一粒白飯擋在外面通通進來了 再過來說獨輪車 花蓮先生把獨輪車藏起來了結果事實上是什麼事實上事實上是行政院的東辦的行政院東辦的倉庫不是花蓮先生我的倉庫 再過來 |
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| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
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所謂黨議組談白飯是為了圖利熱海便當這個花蓮縣陳王廟已經出來告了所有的熱海便當把熱海便當圖交出來熱海便當全部是陳王廟送的花蓮縣政府沒有買沒有買熱海便當全部在造謠還有高壓水槍 |
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| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
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說富坤吉徐政委只會貼貼紙把人家捐出來的東西貼貼紙對不起啊這是花蓮縣政府環保局買的這是公務本來就應該要載明他是哪個單位的所屬還有七歲女童把管死掉了賺人熱淚後來是謠言這一次的救災荒腔走板主責單位是誰 |
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問了卓榮泰院長問了三分鐘他才說是行政院科部會這是我們的政府讓產值超人台灣有一流的國民無流的政府謝謝 |