| IVOD_ID |
164024 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164024 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-26-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-13T11:04:31+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-13T11:14:12+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:41 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5d6d14916e595edc8247b3c1944a858beadaba8731997982a407684b3aac8590ef5a74ead98971cb5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃秀芳 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:04:31 - 11:14:12 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請衛生福利部部長及行政院食品安全辦公室就「重大食安事件處理之檢討與食安稽核人力不足問題」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝 謝主席我們請石安辦來 請徐主任還有請衛福部部長石部長文豪我想請教就是說彰化算是一個農工大縣那尤其是在南彰化這邊就是種稻米蔬菜的非常的多那彰化原本的那個民道大學 |
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他有一個農藥殘留質樸快檢實驗室最主要是服務整個彰化地區有15項就是彰化縣政府這邊有特別就是說有15項比較可能會有農藥殘留的這些蔬菜 |
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这个免费啦就是免费去对就免费检查这样子啦那其他的部分可能就是有一些费用也会比较便宜那我想请教因为我觉得这个也是一个源头管理就是说如果说我们可以在第一时间把这些蔬果可以透过这样的一个农药残留的一个实验室可以检验出来 |
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那你銷售到市場方面其實就可以民眾會消費者會比較安心所以我想問一下就是說除了彰化這邊有這樣的一個這個農藥殘留的一個實驗室之外那其他縣市有沒有我所知道在農業部這樣的一個 |
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直普快簡的網絡大概有十幾個實驗室各縣市各區域都有那我是不是也可以就是說除了跟農業部這邊之外我們應該也要一個跨部會讓農民可以更容易透過這樣的一個 |
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它的蔬果透過這樣的一個實驗室的一個檢查系統對 它很容易去拿到這邊去做檢查那未來就是說像這個我們彰化這邊的這個蔬菜水果你只要有這個檢查那農業部會有一個標章你到北農的話就可以直接通關也不需要再去做額外的一個檢查 |
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所以我覺得說針對這部分應該也要一個跨部會就是說應該源頭管理源頭管理讓農民他的蔬菜水果可以更容易把他的產品拿到這個地方去做一個檢驗消費者也可以更安心 |
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跟委員說我們除了剛講十幾個點之外到現在有五部的那個貨櫃車這樣子的就是活動式的在產季的時候就可以開到現場去但是我們現在大概都跟農會去合作像我們今年底就可能會去連路跟 |
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跟屏東的就在產地的時候開一輛開兩輛去那這五輛車現在有一些的是請法人有一些請學校像嘉義大學台大等等的就來幫忙 |
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微運這樣子那我想委員剛剛的這個提議我回去後就會納入開會中的討論請兩個部會共同演繹這樣子其實就是說這個實驗室就是說知道說其實它是很快可能幾分鐘的時間就可以檢驗15分鐘的時間就可以檢驗出來像事前做的所以就確定這一批都安全了Safe然後我們就可以去賣 |
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所以我覺得如果可以在這個前端就做這樣子的一個檢驗的話其實對農民來講也是好的因為他可以更節省時間就是說他的產品到北農是一個保證有這樣的一個標章然後也是一個保證所以我覺得你們應該也要跟農業部這邊有一個跨部會的 |
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就是說讓農民可以更容易把他的產品來做一個檢驗然後得到這樣的一個標章我覺得這個應該可以來推廣推動 好不好那接下來我想請教就是說在今年五月份的時候彰化發生一個重大的一個食安醜聞就是說這個豬排改標 |
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豬排改標那我現在要請問就是說現在網路真的非常的快速就不論是團購網購在那個網路上面你要買吃的買用的都非常的方便那今年五月份的這一個就是說可能透過網路這個廠商他透過網路可能去收購一些過期的這個豬排 |
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那回來之後再自己改標可是為什麼會被發現是因為原本製造這個豬排的那個食品廠他覺得說我們這一款這個豬排已經停產了就是這一款的豬排已經停產那為什麼還在市面上在網路上面販售所以這樣子才爆發出來的那我想請教就是說未來 |
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因為這個不是政府自己不是我們食藥署這邊自己發現的是這個原本的食品廠自己發現的那未來像這樣子的話我們要怎麼樣去杜絕因為現在很多網路團購網購真的非常方便其實你們也沒有那個人力去杜絕這個JP食品到底是安不安全或者是他的保存 |
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是不是有經過冷鏈冷凍或者是已經在這個常溫已經過了多久其實你們也自己沒辦法去做這樣子的一個一個檢驗檢查那未來我覺得在網路上面販售的這些東西其實我覺得你們應該要去一個再去想一個方法怎麼樣讓所有的消費者 |
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第一個你買到的東西是安心的因為尤其是節日的時候過年過節很多人會在網路上面買烤肉的東西這個肉品或者是海鮮那像這樣子的話如果我們自己本身在第一線第一時間就沒辦法發現或者是即使是發現那這個廠商他也會再透過人頭 |
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可能又改另外一間公司又開始販售所以我覺得說你們應該要去想一下怎麼要去杜絕這樣的一個類似的狀況那你們要怎麼做好我想到的啦就是說因為這個剛前幾位委員也有問到說跟網路平台特別大陸那邊進來的那我們一個是從資訊的面就是說 |
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從電腦跟資訊上面怎麼去比對然後提供我們預警的資料第二個就是剛講到法規面的怎麼我們實務上面去強化做到很有效的能夠管理跟嚇阻說這一類的廠商他又要這樣做很容易被我們看到然後我們是有力去處理他的可是他如果又改一個公司名其實你 |
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你也很難去抓而且它這個東西其實在銷售很快可能幾天的時間就銷完了你即使要去查要去找它的樣就是你們要去追回來其實也都很困難那另外一個有可能未來它如果是從國外直接進來然後販售出去其實兩三天的時間其實你也沒辦法查所以我覺得說針對這部分在網路上販售 |
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這個海鮮 食品或者是其他那種食品類的我覺得應該要有一套的方法怎麼樣可以杜絕類似的這樣的一個狀況在發生 |
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謝謝委員提出這個漏洞不過我們會持續強化這個十萬五環每一個環節如何更精進不過呢對於這一種明知故犯這個都是明知故犯他會去改標一定是明知故犯對這種明知故犯的一旦抓到我們就是建立絕對是嚴懲讓他破產讓他 |
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大家不敢再去鋌而走險了就是說你隨便就是罰我查了過去我們5年查的這個食安事件350幾件那麼總共才開罰2500萬所以最高的一件也不過所以就不怕了不怕嘛所以我們要建立的就是 |
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這個食安每一件都是重大我們看起來這個人民的日常生活都會息息相關所以只要是這種蓄意的明知故犯蓄意的這種不良廠商絕對是重罰 |
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未來都是採取一樣的這個模式來不再姑息啦好 那我希望說部長針對這一部分真的網路上販售的東西其實都非常的快速那針對這一部分我覺得你們應該也要有一些因應的方式因為 |
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這東西要出去一兩天就賣完了就吃到肚子餓了你要炒其實也很難炒所以應該有因應目前的這個狀況要有更精進的方式來杜絕好不好好 我們來研究謝謝 謝謝委員好 謝謝 |