| IVOD_ID |
164023 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164023 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-13T11:01:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-13T11:12:03+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:35 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5d6d14916e595edcb246cdfcaafaecea85f90000f7f2f0aba407684b3aac859032eaf49779187fd55ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝衣鳯 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:01:28 - 11:12:03 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請農業部部長、經濟部部長、原住民族委員會首長、國家通訊傳播委員會首長、行政院公共工程委員會首長、行政院主計總處首長、內政部首長、教育部首長、交通部首長、環境部首長、文化部首長、勞動部首長及衛生福利部首長就「丹娜絲颱風及728豪雨災後復原重建情形」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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好 谢谢主席我想要请龚部长请龚部长 |
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雖然我們今天在討論的是丹納市颱風那我必須要講一下就是說我們彰化在這一次的丹納市颱風裡面有非常多的排水那以及在去年的颱風當中也有像這一次一樣有可能會滿堤或溢堤的相關的排水設施那我知道因為我上會期去已經考察了非常多的排水相關的設施 |
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水利署跟我說要放在四年四千億的這個特別預算裡面那我想要了解四年一千億的特別預算不是特別預算是公務預算所以明年就會編所以明年會編嗎所以是確定會編嗎因為我要確定因為如果沒有辦法編的話那那些因為颱風所 |
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就是說所影響的排水設施就應該要納在這一次的特別風災的那個條例裡面來修理那如果是下個會就是明年度的預算的話那是不是一定要把我們去會堪的那些排水設施都放在相關的那個預算裡面所以為什麼會編四年一千億就是把整個台灣重要的部分全部都會統整的來做一次性的處理 對 |
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對 那就必須要記得那還有現在大家在說 回答要落腳新售的T17 T18好像會不會破局 你說你說不會 他們很喜歡那裡這個要看市政府跟這個新售他們談的結果好像就是說市政府已經要發函給新售要去談這個事情 |
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所以你不是在盤點全台灣的土地嗎你有沒有放我們彰化的你有沒有盤一下我們彰化的我們彰化有什麼土地可以用因為這個就是NVIDIA它還是有期待的一些條件那我們會根據它的條件來做盤點 |
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所以對啊那有什麼條件一定要在台北是嗎有嗎他有講嗎沒有他有講說這些條件請不要對外公開不能公開那所以你有沒有盤點有沒有盤點彰化的你有沒有根據條件盤點一下彰化的 陸續在盤點但是我們還是要 |
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比較滿足他們的這個期待的條件你都講不出來我看應該是在台北是不是我們彰化沒希望那彰化可以有什麼 |
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相關的咧對不對因為像現在美國在談判裡面他提到了就是希望說三奈米以下先進製程的這個晶片有百分之四十以上或者是五十在在美國生產嘛那我想請問喔那一天那個政府院長他去美國說五五分不會那會不會六四 |
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會不會 還是7.3不是 沒有辦法去預料說因為美國將來的需求量多大這個要預估我們也不知道嘛所以馬上去講5.5分或6.4分這個沒有辦法去確認這件事情你覺得會不會有可能那我們只能確定的就是說在台灣的這個台積電的已經宣布的這個11條新的這個11座經驗場 |
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包括台中四座嘛那高雄可能是五座或六座嘛那还有竹科嘛这个是最先进的那即便是台积电已经在美国宣布的部分1650亿是六座嘛所以 |
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台湾的这个产能产量远比而且时程上也远比美国的要快非常多因为美国的部分他第二场也许到明年才会开始量产2028年可能三个场才会开始量产但我们不一样我们现在很快那个高雄厂已经要开始量产了 |
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可是像你們現在在講的就是政府院長回來的記者會講到的G2G這個部分有沒有你們提到的相關性我覺得我們一定要對外說明你這樣不說明的話業者也會很就是說因為你提到的G2G或者是聚酪型的把我們的我們的足科的經驗整個搬到美國去那會不會加速 |
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會不會加速不是搬過去啦是把這個經驗分享給美國啦也是事實上使用這樣的聚酪也是我們台灣廠商那為什麼剛才提到說對 可是台灣廠商會擔心會不會加速 |
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你知道嗎 速度加快啊本來也許就是說它的進程沒那麼快的可是當你是聚落型或者是整個竹科共同去的時候會不會加速因為我們的原則一定是先是立足台灣才是佈局全球 |
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所以立足台湾我们产生的这个在台湾产生的这个聚落效应是发展的非常好所以也持续在发生当中我刚刚提到了很多的这些产能包括半导体的产能持续在增加当中所以它这个是力量的往外延伸不是把台湾的能量移出去不是的 |
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那當然就是我們的廠商在做全球布局我們當然希望我們的廠商在那個地方可以營運順利賺錢因為母公司畢竟在台灣它在那個地方可以賺錢的話也會充實我們母公司的能量所以我們當然也不希望說它這邊布局以後它失敗 |
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那會影響到我們公司啊所以就是說所以他赴美投資是用分公司還是子公司不一定就是通常有些是用子公司啊那有沒有要做相關的規範 |
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相關的規範他如果一定金額以上是要送到我們這個投審室來做審查的對不對要不要做相關的規範畢竟要維持台灣對於美國公司相關公司的這樣子的控制力嘛是不是不然他會不會就全部都全然的聽美國的就我們審查來講的話企業當然有企業的考量但是就我們審查來講我們第一個是國家 |
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國家安全或有國家利益第二個是整體產業的利益這兩個是我們重要的審查的依據就是你做這個事情你會不會危害到國家安全你做這個事情會不會影響到我們整體產業的利益我提到的是你提到的是國家安全我提到的是產業的憂慮以及專家學者的憂慮對不對 |
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這兩個同時都是要考量對 我是說大家會憂慮嘛過去我們所認為的矽頓是不是不在的那再來是不是會加速我們的整個半導體的供應鏈外移那這兩個我希望經濟部都能夠徹底的協助國內的廠商好不好不能讓我們整個半導體的供應鏈外移對 立足台灣是我們的最優先沒有錯 |
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就是要讓半導體的供應鏈留在台灣不要加速外移好不好對 我們會擴大它的能量在台灣是不是不要加速外移我講的是大家擔心的是這一點好不好好好謝謝 給我幾分鐘我再問一下農業部長好 謝謝榮吉農業部長謝謝 |
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委員好部長不好意思那個丹納市颱風之後對於農田尤其是就是那種根莖類的作物還有這些蔬菜作物他們產生非常大的影響那 |
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農民在抱怨就是說根據政府所提供的補助都沒有辦法實質的請領以及得到實質的幫助這個部分能不能趕快協助因為這一次我相信在花蓮的風災當中也會受到相關的這樣子的問題嗎 是不是 |
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我跟委員報告因為彰化的部分其實最大的影響在0708的大豪雨的部分然後有一些短期葉菜類的部分所以短期葉菜類因為它三個禮拜就可以復耕所以我們在第一時間也去做了這些公告 |
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那您剛才委員說的他領不到的部分我們會再來瞭解看到底是哪一個環節出問題他們就是說申請不到啊他們去申請的也申請不到啊這個可能跟公所我們會再跟公所聯繫一下看看公所他遇到的個案是什麼樣子我們再來看怎麼樣的協助那我想要請問關稅談判之後有可能我們的蝴蝶蘭的大苗沒有辦法還維持零關稅的優惠那 |
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那個業者他要出口的成本勢必會增加那我想請問如果業者要有沒有現在有沒有業者要赴美國去設廠我想美國市長他們現在在評估但是他們現在在評估就是在利用台塘在美國的這個5公頃的這些蘭花的這些生產基地當作他們一個中繼站就是他們的接地生產基地在台塘美國台塘的加州的廠 |
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所以這個部分我們也積極的在協商第一個部分我們已經請台糖這塊地不要賣掉然後可以來做一些業者的這些中繼的這些接力生產基地然後我們也開始請業者做規劃如果業者願意利用這個廠做接力生產的時候那政府願意投入資金去協助他當地廠的設置設備的改善以符合業者的要求 |
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所以如果業者想要到美國設廠你們會藉由台塘這塊土地來協助業者能在那裡生產蝴蝶蘭所需要的就是大苗小苗等等 是不是是 我們這個政策上我們大概已經確定但是一個前提就是業者一定要他自己籌組成有一個經營團隊來經營而不是由台塘經營的好 謝謝謝謝謝鳳委員 謝謝部長 謝謝 |