| IVOD_ID |
164008 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164008 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-13T10:11:59+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-13T10:23:53+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:54 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5d6d14916e595edca26fdee5132dfc7b524a4fcb09fe33208b7b742ce6787900a7eba39b12b3691e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林思銘 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:11:59 - 10:23:53 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆率所屬機關首長暨中央存款保險股份有限公司、監管相關機構有關之財團法人、臺灣證券交易所股份有限公司、臺灣期貨交易所股份有限公司、臺灣集中保管結算所股份有限公司等董事長、總經理列席業務報告，並備質詢。
【10月13日、15日及16日三天一次會】） |
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有關詐騙案件114年第二季的被害人共計有54996人 |
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比较第一季增加了7898人其中又以投资诈欺占5.14%最多被害人达到19327人占我们总被害人的35.14%这个是最多 |
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那刑事局在10月2號對外表示在防堵詐騙以虛擬貨幣進行洗錢的部分刑事局已查扣102億的虛擬貨幣並以針對非法的幣商進行專案的查緝以阻斷詐團利用虛擬貨幣來躲避追查那請問金管會 |
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金管會在9月22號也公告首波完成洗錢房子登記的虛擬資產業者的名單共有9家業者得繼續經營這個業務但有18家就職業者未登記不得再提供虛擬資產的服務所以要請問主委這18家不得再提供虛擬資產服務 |
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其實這一點我們跟檢調都有保持密切的聯繫只要是他今天沒有 |
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在9月30號以前沒有取得登記制的如果實際從事就是違法我們檢察局的同仁也會去現場去看也會把相關的情資提供給檢調去做事後的查緝 |
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主委我看你今天的一個報告你說你表示說你有這個對外同步公告已不得再提供虛擬資產服務的救治業者名單來提供民眾查詢所以我想請問除了公告以外我們還採取哪些措施主要是這個名單的部分因為其實民眾他可能看到 |
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有一家業者他就想去比如說金管黑看是不是我名單上的名單過去曾經發生過歷史名單可能在網路他收到了他就以為還有所以我們要及時的更新就告訴我們其實就像我們在金管黑的網站就會告訴你什麼是合格的業者的名單 |
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那這個是我們要隨時來做所以我知道我說你除了公告這些業者的名單這些不能再繼續提供服務的業者的名單以外你還會採取哪些措施現在主要是就我的所知就我們會請檢察局跟通知我們的檢警調去對這個部分進行主動的去查核主委如果查到的話依照我們相關的現在的法規有哪些法則 |
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現在的罰則最終可以處兩年徒刑有刑責就可以了登記制以後開始有刑責就只有刑責而已 |
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那我也看到了刑事局他也有促請說金管會要協助加強監管禁止現金交易所以金管會所採取的防治措施有哪些對於這些防堵現金交易的措施有採取哪些措施我們剛開始在所謂聲明制的時候有很多業者設了很多所謂的那個對比機就是那個ATM就是BTM |
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這一部分因為很多都用現金交易現金交易就沒辦法去追蹤他的KYC不知道是誰來做這個交易所以我們發現這個問題以後我們就要求公會我們就直接去函這所有東西就不能用現金交易我想這個對很多在從事這些比較灰色或是這些的立刻就產生嚇阻作用很多的我們的業者就覺得這部分他可能沒辦法做他就自己就收掉了我想有幾家是這樣子 |
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那這樣也有助於就是說我們對於這個所謂的詐騙的一些的阻止當然我們也不會妨礙因為你只要透過銀行的戶頭去匯款買賣就可以那個主委我想您剛才提到您有採取一些措施是那我想請教說你除了採取這些措施以外你是否有充分掌握這些違法業者的名單 |
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你有查到有哪些名單有沒有查到其實我們檢察局兵隊可以來說明一下我們檢察局其實我們都有例行性對他們做檢查其實也可以請我們局長跟委員檢查報告一下請局長回答 |
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跟委員報告就是說在我們在今年對12家的這個虛擬資產業者部分的檢查部分我發現到一些業者有可能涉及到一些現金交易不法現金的交易的部分我們已經把相關的資料已經提供名單都有掌握了對 我們已經提供給檢警調去繼續再做後續的一些所以有充分的掌握了是是是OK 好 謝謝 |
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那主委我想再請教就是說我們剛才一直關心的就是那個虛擬資產服務法這個專法在今年6月27號你已經報行政院了那個草案包含穩定幣的發行及管理相關的監管的一些要求但是目前還躺在行政院監管會員先宣示說今年底就要施行就要公布施行但是我們現在看起來時間就有點趕了 |
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而且目前我看到有銀行業者凱基銀行他宣布將與全球最大的美元穩定幣發行商Tether合作推動虛擬貨幣的應用資產服務所以法規如果不能及時上路恐怕對投資人的保障會有很大的不足 |
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所以目前我們看到除了民眾黨還有我們有幾位委員都有提案所以請問主委那貴會送交行政院的版本到底何時會送到立法院其實跟委員報告其實金管會是沒辦法宣誓說我們什麼時候要那要透過行政院跨部會的審查由政委來召集跨部會審查我們已經開過會我們會加速來請這個 |
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那行政院審查所以在這個會期內沒有辦法順利這個我們站在經管委員會立場我們是希望能夠盡快的來審查因為這部法律通過以後呢還有大概七部的執法那我們現在都在準備中這七部的執法通過才有辦法上路所以這部分呢還需要一點時間剛剛委員講說會不會有空窗或是怎麼樣因為剛剛跟委員也質詢到了就是說我們現在採用的登記制 |
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登記制某種程度來講雖然它的整個的效率跟它的範圍沒有像我們現在虛擬服務專法那麼的完備但是現在已經可以透過這個登記制做一定程度的對這個機構跟它行為做控管是 |
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主委我想有專法對我們投資人的保障會比較夠所以我還是希望說主委你去跟行政院一定要多做溝通盡速把這部法律送到我們立法院來做審查讓他三讀通過另外就是說穩定幣的發行金管會是否也已經跟央行討論規劃未來穩定幣發行的幣別種類以及它應用服務的範圍 |
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其實我們當時在立這個草案還有包括這個有關一些數位現金這樣的部分我們一直都有跟央行保持聯繫而且再來未來我們的虛擬資產服務法裡面這一部分也是穩定幣是油金管會跟央行共管未來是要共同管理這一塊市場所以有跟央行做規劃討論 |
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另外 主委我們這個有關亞洲資產管理中心台灣州將在這個後天10月15號就要在高雄來開幕活動的重點聚焦在亞資的政策上要打造台灣成為亞洲資產管理中心的這個要推出一系列的論壇座談博覽會目前有33家的金融業來參與包含了 |
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507.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
519.051 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
17家銀行12家證券期貨投資投信投顧公司4家保險公司證取局也表示截至目前已經有2.4萬人次的報名法人機構參與家屬為34家 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
522.535 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
549.816 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
專從國外來台參與的外資則逾140人次分別來自日本 韓國 新加坡 香港 美國印尼 印度 越南 柬埔寨等地主委 您也指出說台灣擁有豐沛的民間資金以及國際競爭力的產業是這些都是我們擠深國際邁向未來的重要基礎將打造我們台灣成為亞洲資產管理中心這也是我們行政院金發會的重要計畫之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
551.838 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
564.685 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
此次將藉由台灣州向全球投資人展示台灣的經濟實力行政院在明年度施政報告中也提到高雄設立資產管理專區開放38項業務還要透過ETF永續債券TISA賬戶來帶動發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
570.808 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
587.469 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
另外在今晚会针对我国总体经济分析台湾发展亚洲资产管理中心的条件的简报资料中也指出国内资金很充沛银行存款有54.9兆超额储蓄连续4年超过3兆受险资产超过34兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
588.931 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
615.294 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
但是我國如果要和香港新加坡競爭的話現階段缺乏國際市場的關心的稅負優惠外匯自由化 語言的環境優勢這些都是目前我們無法避免的結構性劣勢所以請問主委根據這些財經媒體的報導政府強調國際合作跨境ETF的掛牌但實際資金流入規模有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
616.135 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
633.249 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
雖然政府在高雄設立專區推動TISA專戶但根本結構性的問題要如何克服能不能在這邊向國人投資人表示我們具備什麼樣的優勢及能力跟香港新加坡來競爭亞洲資產管理中心的地位 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
633.749 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
660.76 |
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是 我想剛委員提到的問題其實都已經非常完整就是要發展一個金融中心或資產管理中心它要很多很多的條件當然所有條件我們都有那當然最好但是我們應該是這樣想我們沒有的我們趕快慢慢應該要加速來爭取或來建構我們有的地方我們要好好的利用所以我們就先開始起步來做這件事情當然比如說如果稅跟外匯的話那主要是針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
662.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
679.547 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
外部的資金但對本國的資金怎麼讓他留下來可能是我們現階段最重要的一個工作所以這部分我們會是循序漸進來推動主委我想最後一個問題在30秒我們在政策設計上到底是要偏向流財還是引資我們先以流財 |
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681.788 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
701.875 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
為主軸 但是引資絕對是我們要做這兩個是雙向但是我們一定要先做到能夠留財你談引資才是更現實 更具體所以我們這兩個是同時做但是我們現在主要是先針對留住台灣的財富為主要現階段的工作OK 好 主委加油謝謝 謝謝 謝謝委員好 謝謝我們林昭偉接下來我們請顏寬恆委員 |