| IVOD_ID |
164007 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164007 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-13T10:12:55+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-13T10:22:18+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:23 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5d6d14916e595edc3878036e18fa407585f90000f7f2f0ab8b7b742ce678790039c7ac6a666915c55ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:12:55 - 10:22:18 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請農業部部長、經濟部部長、原住民族委員會首長、國家通訊傳播委員會首長、行政院公共工程委員會首長、行政院主計總處首長、內政部首長、教育部首長、交通部首長、環境部首長、文化部首長、勞動部首長及衛生福利部首長就「丹娜絲颱風及728豪雨災後復原重建情形」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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邵委還有委員我們請農業部部長還有經濟部部長我們請兩位部長 謝謝委員好鄭委員好好 大家辛苦了今天談這個主要是談花蓮風災的這些案子 |
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今天没有要究责但是我们要去要事实的就凭事实来检讨才能够精进才能够精进防范还可以做一个防范看农业部的报告你的报告提到是从今年的7月下旬7月下旬然后花莲分属7月26号空刊确认 |
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然后提到这个7月26号应变小组然后提到这个7月26号之后的然后请那个杨明交大8月11号然后成功大学8月20号这时间差我们也必须要去了解好我们来看部长 |
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这个马太安西晏赛福这个报告单这个报告单是林业署所做的报告这里面就提到马太安西之流 |
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自109年起支流上游裸露面积逐年扩大且其以主流满溪汇流处有时有细水有时无细水细水面积约0.25公顷113年康瑞台风或支流幼安尤其下游侧开始有几步崩塌再持续后退这个时间我们就先要去检讨 |
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也就是為了因應未來都還會有台灣是一個常常會有這種煙災府的地方過去的經驗尤其以現在的經驗未來怎麼樣發現的時候怎麼樣就要把它處理越早處理就越可以解決問題這個部分沒有要究責我們是要整個要把它弄清楚 |
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你的報告如果不清楚的時候因為很多東西不是你負責的不是林業部可以負責的不是林業署可以負責的是相關部會要共同的要去負責要去承擔要去推動要去執行好你的報告裡面提到7月26號林業 |
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属花莲分属花莲分属召开应变小组会议当然你只能花莲分属只能通知这底下的包括像比如说水利属的第九河川分属对不对 |
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他有限啊 资源有限啊他能做什么呢他只能轻易他能有加固加高提防的那个能力吗没有啊他要有经费啊所以必须要层级要提高啊这个就是要我们要去检讨的地方8月6号也是一样花莲分署召开防灾分工协调会8月12号才提升到 |
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林業署資商也不足就應該要農業部甚至行政院已經8月12號囉對不對這個都是我們要去檢討改進的地方我們看這個8月20號林業署第二次專案諮詢會議8月28號 |
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提到花蓮分署召開河道疏峻只是疏峻而已所以這個部分是一個怎麼樣去拉高層級怎麼樣去因應所以未來應該要訂一個遇到院賽府的時候要怎麼樣處理要有這樣的一個新的一個規劃新的計劃 |
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8月27號才提升到行政院還責成你們農業部成立專案小組所以這個都是需要去檢討改進的地方接下來農業部的部分當然房子不是你負責我要讓你知道的是說農田我們現在談農田農田被淹埋 |
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农田农田被淹埋抱歉这个跳到了这个农田被淹埋得很严重那现在这个农田要怎么去处理好这个是原来的原来这么美丽的一个地方这么漂亮的一个农田也非常好好 |
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这是筛钱你看摘后就是这样非常高比这个比房子一楼一样高的那个农田全部被淹满这个农机很多农机没有证明的你说要有农机证明你说没有农机证明呢我买二手的就没有农机证明这个都要放宽所以 |
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農田的部分就是要挖掘這個土石挖掘土石 清潤土石還要怎麼樣有的必要的時候還要換土部長可以嗎 |
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我們先針對農田我想很簡單的跟委員報告就是有關於農田淹沒的部分那我們大概分為兩個層次處理一個層次是有一些光屋鄉有些農田沒有被土淹沒但是它的灌溉渠道受阻了 |
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402.332 |
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那這個部分我們會加快的用沼井的方式做緊急供水那第二個部分土石淹沒的地方有的大概幾十公分大概大概十公分有的甚至五六公尺所以相對的我們提出了三個方案這三個方案包括 |
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431.177 |
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有一個原地重劃或是農地重劃或者是把土砂全部移除這三個方案我們後續會跟我們鄉當地所有居民做一些座談然後達到一個最大的共識那我們秉持的兩個原則就是整個的後面的農田的再生的一個富裕的部分一定是讓農民最有利的而且讓農業的經營是最永續的換土要挖土這個一定要協助農民沒辦法 |
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432.433 |
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458.698 |
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對 這個我們會來做剛才講的農機只要能夠證明確實是他的而且被淹埋了農機你是剛剛提到的灌灌這個農機的部分我們也已經調整了我有親自看了你們那個現在在抽在挖那個要再挖在抽水那個部分農民都認為沒有辦法 因為不足 |
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484.522 |
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所以灌溉用水這個部分我們事後可以再討論我們請經濟部還有水利署這個部分今年的8月13號所提的附帶決議是本席提出來透過國民黨團寫出來的所以這個部分針對水利署的部分當然現在你們都積極的在做了 |
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517.471 |
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积极短期的10月5号已经完成加高要非常谢谢水利署的同仁但是如果当初我们就讲7月26号了7月26号之后如果当初有这样做的话也可以防范这些土石洪水冲到这个社区部落包括农田所以这个部分都是我们要去怎么样去加强因应这个是像这样的一个数据当然 |
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518.274 |
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要积极的来做另外就是说我也亲自去跟哲理署的同仁去下游 |
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529.17 |
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558.16 |
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下游直接沖刷的阿多摩東富村還有三星三星這個當初就沒有注意到這個三星這個地方也破了計算的時候要務必要把它計算到裡面所以這個部分包括很多的一個需要去積極處理的部分要請經濟部要請水利署繼續的辛苦好不好謝謝 |
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謝謝鄭天才委員 謝謝我們的部長 謝謝 |