IVOD_ID |
163904 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163904 |
日期 |
2025-10-08 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-36-2 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
4 |
會議資料.會次 |
2 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-10-08T11:39:30+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-10-08T11:48:14+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:08:44 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f0233cd0619a8ff0c66d77322dd19c2fb1cbd8f3401de56a656cd2b685a6ecb8bb479112f1783c0c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
委員發言時間 |
11:39:30 - 11:48:14 |
會議時間 |
2025-10-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期司法及法制委員會第2次全體委員會議(事由:邀請法務部部長率所屬單位主管列席報告業務概況及立法計畫,並備質詢。 【10月8日及9日兩天一次會】) |
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謝謝主席 各位先進 有請鄭部長好 有請部長委員好你好 這個你知道 你知不知道一個一個通訊軟體叫 Telegram你知道這個吧 知道 |
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那麼近三年我們看到裁判就是裁判書裡面三萬件就從幣院裡面出來的詐欺相關的案件兩萬七就詐欺的案件高達九成之多那速報部他只有列管Meta就是FBLINE Google Tiktok |
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那這一部分來講有關於這裡的軟體叫Telegram這個犯罪利用其實是非常高的有些人說 你看底下我那個下標說台灣人很少用這裡的所謂Telegram其實大家揭秘說老司機 詐騙集團的最愛就是這一款的AppTelegram那我就請問你 |
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檢調在這裡所謂的這個要打詐的配合新興科技檢調扮演什麼角色我們在詐偽的條例我們在打詐就是國家隊還有我們第三起第三起的一個行動綱領那我們是扮演一個 |
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懲詐的一個角色 懲罰的角色那剛才委員問的這是屬於蘇發部在做行政的監管那是前面的 後面還是你們啊後面還是你們啊後面還是你們啊你們偵辦起訴你們啊 都是你們啊那麼要透過打詐這個新興科技啊與電信金融機構合作建立檢舉與查詢管道 |
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基本上是你們的責任 對吧這部分我們有建立一個一個調取資料的一個沒有 我現在就問白話文啦現在老百姓很可憐 這樣常常隨便就被騙 特別是通訊軟體一下子上LINE啊 上Telegram就被騙我這裡啊 我是選區選出來的我這裡就就來了 你要看老闆 |
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這個退休的夫妻被騙了一兩千萬幾乎他的退休全部都不見了這個也求恕無門啦你能不能告訴我 你能不能掌握資料就是現在來講 現在大概一年被詐欺的大概一千億左右 一千億數字很大喔 數字非常大喔請問拿回來多少 你知道嗎被詐欺的 拿回來多少 |
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你有沒有概念去年查扣是100多億今年是80幾億到現在為止所以大概一成啦時間要多久時間要多久才能夠這部分其實委員關心的就是應該是網路上投資大片的問題 |
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那其實這部分的權管 行政權管是速發部他管前面啦 後面還是你們管嘛那這邊其實就有在做網路巡邏如果說有發現這個投資詐騙在平台的話像這種Telegram的這個其實可以檢舉可以用平台檢舉因為速發部其實他而且他可以做一個下架嘛他可以有權力下架 可是他就不會下架他就說一定是你們來你們講他就下架要你們來 Trigger你們扣板機啊 |
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他是這樣子講的他是有接到一個檢舉或是因為辦案單位他有巡邏他等於說要檢調你跟他合訂了他就下架所以他不敢直接直接去下架的啦 |
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但是跟委員報告 蘇華部其實有開發一個系統就是網路詐騙通報的查詢網那當然是可以讓我們去我請問你啊如果我們上你們的網站法務部檢調 檢查體系或者調查局能不能看到一些反詐欺相關的資料 可不可以 |
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這部分是一個宣導的宣導的我們其實有出書還有一些的短影音的去做一個宣導不夠啦你們要把update的資料我剛說過你也講了數字嘛大概拿回來一成嘛時間都超過一年以上嘛而且我的事實上我接到幾個曾經的人他們到最後都不了了之就沒有了啦好我們來看啦這個有一個民調啦 |
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叫做2024精確民調公司他做一個台灣司法公正時事議題調查對於民眾對於檢察官公正度相當純理喔不太有信心的31.6%非常沒信心的20.2%所以兩個起來等於是過半的台灣老百姓是對於我們的檢調 |
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我們的檢察官 特別檢察官能不能公正起訴能不能夠不要選擇性辦案不要看陰色辦案老百姓其實是很憂慮的過半的老百姓是不買單的就是你看到這個數字啊特別是因為我時間到了我就很簡短的就是請教你這是我要問的重點所有的武器都在檢察官手上要約談約談 要搜索都搜索 |
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為什麼起訴以後你還可以不斷的抗告這個抗告的權利在有些國家根本檢察官你起訴以後他就跟他沒有關係了就是由法院來決定怎麼會說這個法院判了以後檢察官抗告一次兩次三次四次不斷的這樣子這個你要不要講一下 |
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這個民調這部分我們都尊重各界的一個意見當作我們那個難道你不會難過嗎 過半的人不相信你們檢查官內這個民調以前就各家民調都有差不多這個數字啊那我們是要求檢查官在辦案一定要嚴守正常的法律程序公正之法 剛才委員有提到我們不可能隨便去搜索 不能隨便去羈押因為這個搜索羈押沒有沒有 我的重點在於說 |
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抗告抗告這法院的稅抗告完畢了抗告為什麼可以一而再再抗告這是一個監督法官的一個機制如果說以被害人來講如果被告如果說在起訴疑審的話或者在生壓的話不准那如果說沒有給檢討一個抗告的機會那萬一這個是會中犯有一種人犯的別忘了啊那因為前面都是你的權利檢察官要搜索就搜索 |
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這個是法官保留的沒有錯 法官同意啦但是是你們發動的啊你們要資料什麼資料都在手上結果居然一審 如果是第一審被法院把你打臉的話你怎麼有臉在慷慨呢你就不要輕率起訴嘛請問一下我們檢察官起訴的定罪率多高起訴以後定罪率多高9成5日本咧 99點幾啊 |
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99點幾啊老實講這個檢察官如果起訴又不定罪的話檢察官是要受一定的制約機制啊不要亂起訴一通啊我想這個限制抗告權這個絕對是會削弱這個 |
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監督法院的一個功能 那我想這個國家新化權是沒辦法做一個實現的我想這個對社會公益是沒有幫助的你看一下吧 你看社會外面怎麼看你們嘛就譬如說政治性辦案嘛 你譬如說這個沒有政治性辦案譬如說很簡單那個 檢察官都是法律人我們沒辦法去指導檢察官好啦 這個細節因為我們時間到了 誰再給你扯 下一支再給你扯 |
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譬如說台南的光顛案到現在為止是辦了踢踢踏踏的就明顯是政治性辦案嘛台南的光顛案那個都有生氣壓迫制的其實那個抗告後來法院又重新再採採就在延壓了齁那個包括那個常立人犯那個都辦了齁謝謝委員的指導 |