| IVOD_ID |
163872 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163872 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-08T09:31:46+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-08T09:38:32+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:46 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f0233cd0619a8ff0ac45539fb02f7dde0a8af512ffeae19c522ce05ac16c0400e704fec7cb43ff685ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張宏陸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:31:46 - 09:38:32 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請中央選舉委員會主任委員列席報告業務概況(含上會期臨時提案辦理情形)，並備質詢。【10月8日及9日二天一次會】） |
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我請主委加主委委員好主委我不知道最近有沒有注意到一則新聞法國的新總理勒科 |
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兒牛法國他們的之前新總理勒科兒牛他又辭職了他不到一個月的時間辭職了我不知道主委有沒有注意到這個我看到新聞報導 |
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其實法國跟我們台灣的政治制度上很多人把它拿來相提並論有點類似又不全然法國總統是絕對多數決 |
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法國總統選舉是兩輪不一定兩輪啊他如果第一輪他就過半輪那當然所以在這個學期來講他應該是絕對的多數決一定要過半絕對多數嘛是不是這樣是嘛但法國的總統他也有解散國會的權力吧 |
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他是可以解散國會那現在台灣有很多人在說台灣的總統選舉要不要兩輪制我不知道主委有沒有看到這個新聞最近也看到媒體上有部分的討論我個人是覺得我們先從法理上來講我們的總統選舉 |
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憲法是不是有明文規定總統選舉該如何選舉有沒有憲法中修條文第二條第一項有明文的規定我們是採取的一輪相對多數字沒錯嘛上面就白紙黑字有寫所以如果要改變這一個總統的選舉制度你認為要不要修憲 |
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我想這個解釋上應該是沒什麼問題因為憲法的明文規定在那個地方你不能夠根據違反憲法的規定直接從這個總統副總統選罷法去修改這樣是跟憲法的規定有違 |
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沒錯嘛你的看法跟我的看法是一樣的那反過來如果說這種單一首長制如果縣市首長要改成兩輪絕對多數要是不是不用修憲了 |
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縣市首長的部分縣法並沒有明文規定所以這個如果是在一般的公職人員選罷法裡面有相關的規定的話那我們就按照這個規定來執行沒有錯嘛 主委所以你的看法跟我是 |
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比較相近這是就執行面來講至於政策面是不是有這個有沒有這個必要不不不 主委我不認為這叫就執行面這是法理面我剛剛就跟你講這都是法律的規定就法理的部分就政策的部分就政治的部分這部分我們是沒有評論 |
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因為我們中選會其實是一個選政的單位而已我們選務 我們主要辦理選務 |
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對啦 選政選務其實分開所以我今天問你這個問題我只是覺得說這個東西其實也要讓全國民眾知道就是說關於總統的選舉方式你總統副總統選舉罷免法是規定他的執行面 他的選務他的怎麼樣去做而已吧 對不對 |
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是不是這樣基本的精神還是必須要符合憲法的規定對啦所以我們的總統、副總統選舉罷免法裡面它規定的大部分就是如何去選舉然後選務什麼什麼然後一些相關的規定而已吧是對不對是對嘛所以如果要二輪制 |
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我認為是要修憲啦跟縣市走漲你要去修改它變成二輪制這個是不同的層級呀我不知道主委你的看法我同意是不同的層級對嘛所以我覺得這個 |
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二輪制有好有壞但我個人認為現在台灣我比較擔心的是其實在國外很多二輪制的投票到第二輪變成換票聯盟然後交易聯盟我不知道主委有沒有看過這些相關的報導 |
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那看過對啊在二輪的時候就互相利益交換我跟你換部長我跟你換什麼很多都是這樣我覺得在台灣我覺得第一個台灣面積小那我們的人口數也才2300多萬人在現在做這個事情我個人認為是要值得考量的我不知道主委你的看法我們會傾聽各界不同的聲音 |
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其實啊 主委我必須要跟你說有沒有改 有沒有什麼的其實跟你們中選會啊也沒有任何的你可以去做決定你可以去那個因為你只是 |
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人家怎么规定你怎么做而已吧如果是修宪的话我们还要办公民复权对 你就是那些执行面嘛对不对所以我今天特别问你这个也不是找你麻烦我只是会觉得说这个东西要让 |
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大家知道这已经到修宪的程度了这不是一般修法主要的目的是在这里我不知道主委你的看法是不是如此我想这个是一个非常牵扯到国家的体制非常重要的一个议题全民都应该会关心好 谢谢主委谢谢委员 |