| IVOD_ID |
163862 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163862 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-23-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-08T10:18:56+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-08T10:29:28+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:32 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f0233cd0619a8ff005327187541d357a41e1338d15ff711a522ce05ac16c0400a083280c9df5163c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
蔡其昌 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:18:56 - 10:29:28 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期交通委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
二、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就「十月各連續假期疏運執行及規劃情形」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【10月8日及9日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席特別在我選擇在我發言之前講這個遊戲規則有點擔心本席會講超過我盡量控制時間請陳部長 航港局業局長 港務公司王總經理 |
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委員長 這個第一個問題我想你就先聽一下啦我想問一下那個葉局長跟王總經理這個本席一直在持續的追蹤特別針對台中港有兩個很重要的事項一個事項就是我們這個 |
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港務公司的這個新的智慧型商辦大樓的改建那這個進度在交通委員會上一次去考察我想也都有進度那總經理有沒有新的進度的說明現在的狀況是不是一切依照我們上一次考察的結果 |
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跟委員報告目前我們整個評估報告已經差不多完成了我們有徵詢在地的一些鄉親里長還有我們議員委員還有包括外面的專家學者目前看起來是可行的 |
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那第一個就是說這個總結報告應該在下一季就會完成那我們因為覺得可行所以我們已經在跟這個潛在的業者在仿商希望說把一些條件各方面聚焦以後我們希望能夠明年可以來推動好那明年的進度會可以到哪裡到明年的明年底可行做完了明年到明年底大概進度可以 |
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我們希望說明年的上半年可以來推動招商因為招商在這個過程當中有很多的可能潛在業者有一些意見我們還在修整當中如果一切都順利動工的時間點大概有沒有做一個規劃 |
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可能要到後年的下半年因為還要建造還要設計等等27年的下半年最快那我們盡量就按照你們的規劃我還是希望在速度上有一些掌握因為 |
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對於台中的海線而言它是一個未來我們講叫副都心因為現在你看這個不斷的這個外來人口不斷的移入那個區域那港務公司過去所做的無論這個海釣的專區也成功山井凹類的招商現在也是一起又一起的蓋那每到假日就人滿為患 |
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然後這個未來捷運又要到那個地方所以呢港務公司的大樓的改建對於台中港成為台中港的新地標同時也讓我們這麼多包括風電的廠商不斷的進入這些年來其實沒有蓋商辦沒有任何一棟商辦所以未來他是地標也是最新型態智慧型特別跟捷運又是共構所以我想這個是 |
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很大的發展的一個很重要的投資所以我們希望這個投資能夠讓海線的發展可以進一步讓副都心可以更加成型這個是很重要我們來努力我也特別謝謝港澳公司這幾年的努力那另外就是本席一直在關心希望因為不斷的鄉親 |
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這個搬入 遷入所以呢對於大型量販店過去這兩年本市一直在督促這個事情這個因為議局長應該你們也都同意啦那個港務公司來負責招商嘛那現在這個進度 |
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在接下來的這個半年內有沒有機會讓大型的這個量販店可以進駐好 跟委員報告大概就是有一個7.9公頃的也是在這個原來的有一個大型物流中心的附近 |
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那有一個有潛在業者已經來看過了那也把整個條件還有包括設置的地點等等已經報到他們的總部那他們總部可能會在近期安排他們的高層來現刊那如果現刊完了以後我們希望說他們趕快給我們回應那我們來修正我們的這個招商的一個規範所以以目前的訊息來講是樂觀的 |
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審慎樂觀 OK好 這個很重要這個我想已經大家要求很久了這個大型廟宇我知道我們的努力包括現在統一集團先進駐了這個已經是大家都知道而且但是大家不知道可能是那個 |
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大型的7-11但除了大型7-11之外應該那個量販跟大型7-11概念是不一樣的是所以我們希望除了桶流之外能夠有一個大型的量販店能夠進駐所以希望這個事情能夠有好的結果我們努力對一旦有好的結果希望能夠讓本席知道好不好好的 |
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好謝謝 謝謝那另外請教部長那個大安溪跟大甲溪橋我知道公路單位其實都很支持因為也覺得大甲溪橋大安溪橋的改建基於安全的考量這個時間已經很久了但經費龐大 |
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所以呢我知道公共單位他其實很支持本席的這個建議啦那也做了一些評估也都覺得有這樣的必要那現在就卡在經費的問題那經費問題我知道行政院的態度希望納入審改的預算來處理 |
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那部長現在大概我們審改預算的狀況是怎麼樣報告委員我們這一期的審改的預算應該是400多億嘛那坦白講因為審改計畫它的時間是比較長的那我們全台灣要維修的跟維護的道路其實相當的長那所以跟委員報告是我們的這個計畫裡面如果要放這兩座橋進來的話我們的計畫可能無法容納 |
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所以這個部分也照委員的指示我們會向行政院來爭取因為我們知道這個是委員長期在爭取沒有錯長期在爭取那這兩座橋也確實老舊而且它抗洪跟抗震的能力 |
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這個我們也是擔心所以我們希望能夠趕快爭取到行政院的支持把預算另外用一個專案的方式能夠來撥補所以第一個部裡面確定是支持的一定支持那這個預算我想不是從省改就是要從行政院這邊來相關的預算來支持或者是我們省改先起個頭然後接下來的工程預算由他們來幫忙再拜託行政院 |
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這個我也會在總質詢的時候來請院長來盡量協助因為大安溪橋就36.8億大甲溪橋是4.5億所以這個我想預算都很大那我們想持續來做因為橋樑的耐震能力其實這個是省到所以這兩條都是等於交通的動脈所以我們希望趕快來處理 |
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那第三個問題也是要請教部長部長這個我在媒體上看到現在這個叫車平台在嚴厲這個所謂的取消費也就是說我們的消費者叫了車那在某一個特定條件不去搭應該要扣這個要等於罰款的概念可能金額不高但是可能要幾十塊的這個罰款那部長不知道部裡面對於這個叫車平台在嚴厲這個取消費我們的立場是什麼 |
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跟委員報告這個部分它的營業計畫書的部分還是需要透過地方政府的主管機關來做審查地方政府有同意他們才可以做這個收費才可以做這個收費所以第一關會先在地方政府 |
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那第二關有需要到我們交通部嗎應該是不用地方政府他們這樣處理就處理不過站在消費者的這個保護的立場跟消費者的立場來講的話我覺得這個部分應該要請業者更加謹慎就是說你收的這個東西到底合不合理到時候我們交通部也會盡量來了解如果真的不合理我們交通部也會有態度出來部長其實我很清楚那為什麼找你來問交通部的態度呢 |
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立法委員沒有辦法去各地方議會質詢但因為作為全國交通主管機關在交通部所以我們希望透過交通部這個平台可以來告知各個地方政府的想法那本席是覺得說這樣就是說對於一些惡劣譬如說少數的消費者惡劣的行為訂了又不去做應該有一些適度的罰款然後對於 |
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計程車司機的權益的保障本席是不會過度說不行但是本席做Uber的經驗裡面也有本席已經叫完車在那裡等 |
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他已經確定要來一分鐘後跟我取消了我必須要站在那裡持續的叫所以這個對消費者也是不公平等於說你這是雙方的你也可能惡意取消我的因為你已經確定好搞不好你這公正中間又發現更好的對你來講更有條件更好的單所以你可能就棄本席的單 |
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所以這個其實是雙方的概念那第三個他必須要明定在契約也就是契約要修改的時候這個應該要明定所以本席希望來提醒就是說因為這個也還沒有上路只是大家在研議階段但本席希望在研議階段裡面要達到 |
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司機業者權益的保障跟消費者保障之間要平衡而且公道我覺得這個是未來如果真的要討論所謂的取消費本席希望部裡面能夠表達這樣的一個立場這讓雙方的權益是對等的不能只讓一方這個有一些 |
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感謝委員的垂詢那委員這方面的建議我們會另外再發函給地方政府照委員這樣子的建議發函給地方政府給他們這方面的建議希望他那個橫頻性包含駕駛包含消費者中間的那個橫頻性要注意這部分我們會發函給地方政府謝謝 |