| IVOD_ID |
163830 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163830 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-4-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期第3次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期第3次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-07T16:31:57+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-07T17:02:37+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:30:40 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/7828e564de0d60cb7a9e8f9cf0732d03ac1daff01b5f92827ce9ecef9b45ec117bd1442b9f89c7a65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
徐欣瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
16:31:57 - 17:02:37 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-07T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第3次會議（事由：一、行政院院長、主計長、財政部部長、經濟部部長及相關部會首長列席報告「中央政府因應國際情勢強化經濟社會及民生國安韌性特別預算案」編製經過並備質詢（10月3日）。二、對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢（10月7日）。三、10月3日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。四、10月7日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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謝謝韓院長 本席有請卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢許文豪院長好 辛苦了一整天不會不會 謝謝今天本席有三十分鐘有一些有關 |
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整個政府就中央的整個對國家的治理的有些問題本席想特別提出來尤其是賴總統就職以來賴卓體制也已經有一年半的時間了本席首先想請教院長就是說 |
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一個國家的治理或是企業的管理我們對於所有的這個要實施的政策或是我們要落實執行的不外乎是時間效益成本都要兼顧您認同嗎 |
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是 就管理上需要這樣來執行等於說包含我們花了很多的預算 很多的錢應該會在意它的效益嘛 對不對是嘛所以本席首先要先來請教就是說我們現在面對美國關稅的衝擊 |
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那我們有在這個特別預算有特別編列了780億對不對要來這個產業的支持對 就支持產業然後150億要這個安定就業嘛那有關支持產業的本席從 |
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我們這個川普開始有關稅的這樣的一個變化政策變化以來呢我們就一直在問請問受關稅衝擊的行業清單我們政府現在到底有沒有我們在當初四月之前我們就一直做低推估 中推估 高推估各個影響的層面都有推估出來那目前我們認為像這個 |
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手工具機還有一些交通的零組件你們的行業清單有沒有現在整個我們中央政府有掌握主要因為二產業項目高科技產業因為沒有在對的關稅裡面所以大部分是傳統產業傳統產業也有分就是說如果我們的對手剛好是遇到日本跟韓國會比較辛苦 |
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對 所以本席先但是跟委員報告如果我們的對手剛好是中國的話那就比較不會還有一些競爭力但是也一樣要面對這個關稅的支付所以他跟他客戶之間怎麼樣去做拆帳那所以已經有一些清單在手上我們要補助協助的我們也做了很多的座談會對 座談會 那本席想請教 |
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我們這些清單有那麼多的產業那麼多的廠商那你的標準你大概有哪些標準出口佔比是一個因素嗎只要他可以證明他有直接或間接出口美國然後他的業績衰退10% |
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這些是你們的一個標準 對毛利跌幅有沒有考慮那個都不需要 不需要你只要有關稅傳導率有沒有有沒有需要考慮你只要有確認就是說你是有蘇美的時機或間接也可以你是透過代理商出口那你只要你的實際的業績衰退了10%就可以就可以來申請申請了以後協助這些廠商怎麼樣 |
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他有分嘛比如說金融的協助那這個在這個情況之下你就可以新的貸款那我們有信保來支持你然後還有這個利息的減免會公開這個清單跟標準當然標準您剛剛有講一些整個的清單會公佈嗎事實上是所有的製造業你只要符合了這個10%的衰退基本上都可以來申請只要來申請你們就給他過 |
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我們會有公開的廠商名單跟金額嗎我們可以看得到嗎可能我們可能還要這個因為這個因為廠商他申請這個他不一定希望人家知道 |
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那再來我們對於一些這個支持就業我們也有安排了對於一些可能關閉的廠商他們是不是對他們的員工開課 |
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他現在是主要是這個所謂的應該不叫無薪假叫這個減班休息有一些補貼之外還有一些訓練課程再充電計畫再充電計畫跟委員說明我們其實現在有這個給勞工的再充電機會就是減班休息的勞工那他如果參與再充電的計畫我們不只那個課程是免費的甚至我們會給他餐訓津貼每個小時190塊 |
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你這課程誰來開課企業可以開我們地方的分屬可以開都可以甚至地方政府也可以開現在重點就是我們大家在想你企業來開那如果他本身就是可能要關閉的他可能要外移的廠商他來開課請問對我們的勞工有幫助嗎 |
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你這個開課的KPI或者是你的標準在哪裡其實有很多的企業他只是暫時性的現在接單比較有挑戰其實他一段時間以後他是會恢復而且可能還是會未來的訂單還是很有機會的 |
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所以他可以趁這個時間他可以對他內部的員工來辦訓所以企業如果他們要開課的話我們也會補助這個企業來辦訓企業會得到我們的補貼那參訓的勞工我們也會給他參訓津貼每個小時190塊都會有我們都會支持他們 |
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所以本席的問題是對有可能他只是暫時那如果他未來是要等於說可能會關閉的你怎麼辦你這些人他原本就是這個行業你又給他上這個行業的課你沒有幫助他轉型啊呃我們也有地方分署也有開課地方分署也有辦訊課地方分署他開課他是依據什麼來開課 |
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就是我們原本在我們勞動力發展署下各個分署就有相關的課程本來就可以來上而且可以是用線上的方式來上但是這個開課是不是能夠幫助他們轉型我們一再強調你這個錢下去150億你是打水漂這個半年用完就沒了還是他可以轉型是依照勞工的需求跟企業的需求來開課來辦訓 |
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一句他的需求那半年後半年後你有沒有一個檢視的指標因為他上完課然後呢請問他的留任率多少你們有沒有檢視以及他的到職率或是他的轉職率不用看委員他本來就在職他本來就在職 |
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這些勞工現在減班休息並不是真的失業他現在其實還是受聘於那個企業所以您沒有聽懂您說的情況是其中一種但是所以現在我們的中央政府就是假設所有他都是暫時的那如果半年後整個關稅各方面的影響我們發現有一些產業他這個關閉活不下去那這些勞工呢 |
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跟委員說明我們現在還有提出一個是叫做勞工就業通的計畫這個計畫是針對如果真的在這段過程裡面真的不幸被解雇或失業的勞工我們來協助他轉職包括給他到時候才協助嗎沒有現在我們已經發布了 |
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所以如果這個勞工現在真的因為關稅的因素而被解雇而失業的話我們現在在上週我們就已經發布了這個計畫可以用我們勞工就業通的計畫來協助他轉職對 OK這個轉職你有沒有對接的政策產業的清單當然我們希望他我們當然比較希望優先可以協助他比方說轉往一些比較缺工的產業本席花了一些時間問這些問題主要 |
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我就是要跟這個卓院長來提醒就是我們的效益這個780億的支持產業跟這個對支持產業還有安定就業150億我們不希望將近1000億未來就是隨著時間過去錢只是砸下去灑了錢結果 |
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它的成效我們看不到所以我剛剛問了一下一起來監督這個工作學員對課程的整個滿意度還有我們在做這樣計畫的時候你沒有一個執行的一個績效考核或者是一個評估都完全沒有 |
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我們當然會來評估這個等到半年後再下一次的總諮詢甚至一年後才發現問題的時候這些錢都已經撒下去特別預算通過之後我們才會全面開始執行那些準備工作的時候對 準備工作的時候我們正式的規劃應該就有一個減班休息是希望他暫時維持在原來的工作地點只是減班休息我們給他再充電那麼如果真的發生了比較大的影響他必須要轉職的話 |
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他也推出了這種升級轉型的一個各種的補助都有所以是很多的面向同時在進行因為剛好我們經濟部長跟我們勞動部長都在我們的整個產業它是不是要跟整個勞工教育訓練的轉型整個要掛鉤在一起當然 |
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才可以所以現在我們整個的執行是有這樣就是說他如果還沒有到這個減班休息的情況之下我們也有提供補助給企業對他的員工的訓練尤其是AI上的訓練 |
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他可以去上課而且上課以後呢我們也會檢定說他可不可以應用在百工百業就是他比如說工具機他可不可以真的導入到他的製程的過程當中剛剛工部長有特別講所以對於這些產業是有一些對接的政策性產業大概哪些產業您剛剛講AI產業工具機還有AI是導入所有的這些包括傳統性產業 |
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把AI導入那還有呢 你政策性產業還有哪些因為你整個你要去培訓他們轉職各方面你政策性產業現在主要因為對等關稅的關係主要還是放在比較所謂的傳統性產業放在政策上的產業還有中小微這兩大部分 |
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中小微企業還有這個所謂的傳統性產業現在主要是這兩塊因為他們對受到了對等關稅的影響比較大所以我們希望我們的這些納稅人的錢 |
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能夠真正用在我們現在不管我們的產業我們的勞工我們不是只有止血我們可以幫他們造血然後在未來我們可以能夠面對整個國際的衝擊我們可以衝擊到影響到能夠是最小的是 當然 謝謝那接著本席要接著再請教這個院長 |
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美方要求開放稻米零關稅的話這個會直接打擊我國糧食安全所以我們全國人民想要知道政府有沒有設定最低的保護底線稻米是否被列入非談判項目以及我們糧食的自給率政府有沒有訂定底線 |
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在我們談判的原則當中糧食安全跟國人健康是其中兩項重要的原則是政府院長率領我們的底線是什麼就是這兩項原則其他當然糧食安全的底線是我們稻米我們 |
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等於是不是能夠列入非談判項目因為雙方談判雖然已經完成了諸多的技術性磋商但最後總結會議還沒有完成所以最後的協議還沒有達成在之前各有提出但是都沒有做任何實際上的承諾我們等待最後的承諾 |
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但是我相信院長您心裡大概有譜未來可能會怎麼樣因為在這過程雖然沒有公布你一提農業部長就站在旁邊他就知道他的責任有多重大在過程當中農業部一直是很重要的一個我們談判所要保護國人糧食安全跟這個國人健康的一個工作那請問豆米算是戰備物資吧應該算吧那我們最低存量應該是多少我們政府現在 |
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我跟委員報告就是依據我們現在的規定我們現在的規定是除成三個月三個月內30萬噸但是我們現在每一年大概可以到120萬噸所以我們現在稻米的糧食自給率是超過百分之百 |
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我們在整個談判那什麼時候會提出對農產品入超衝擊的報告跟因應對策我跟委員報告就是說當我們在跟美國做相關的談判的過程中其實我們也對每一個產業做了相關的可能的衝擊分析但是相關的談判過程中因為還在執行還在談判過程中那最後的結果還不確定但是 |
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就農業的角度來講確保糧食安全維持產業的穩定性跟我們農民的收入是我們最大的一個原則我們會捍衛這樣的一個用這樣的原則在跟美國一直是用這樣的原則跟美國在處理 |
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好 我們希望我們政府是準備好的因為講到農民本席也要再特別講就是說我們的一些農民他在耕作各種的農作物的時候常常有時候碰到盛產譬如說鳳梨香蕉盛產我們政府就來收購凍存補貼為什麼我們不從一種棄作品種以及 |
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總量管制整個的掌握來著手常常都是常常救急常常的就是去做這個補貼 |
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那這樣我們好幾種農產品常常發生這種事情現在農業部有沒有做整個總量管制的整個掌控我跟委員報告您講得非常對就是說我們都是小農都是小面積的所以我們現在就是在鼓勵相關的集團栽培然後做計劃性的生產然後特別是透過部分的農企業跟農民做契作這樣關係因為有契作的話你的目標就會非常穩定但我的問題是 |
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我們的生產常常脫序這個是政府的責任我們怎麼樣掌握不要常常有這種情況對 另外現在我們也在大概明年初就會去開始做公告就是我們現在的種植登記其實我們透過現在所有的申請其實我們已經掌握大概六成到八成的整個種植的作用現在陸續有掌握 |
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包括規劃跟你們的指導你們都可以來落實所以我們現在透過未來可能透過種植登記加上集團栽培加上企作去讓我們的農產品更有次序性的去做計劃性生產我們希望之後不要再看到農民在不知情的情況下整個又太過於量產跟盛產 |
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不過我要跟委員說明一下因為很多露天週五還是面對的氣候變遷這個極端天候的挑戰所以有時候因為天候的關係造成短時間之內的物價波動是不可避免的但是我們會這個沒關係有些動態性的我想農業部這裡能夠做好整個的預警還有協助輔導各方面我想這樣就很好 |
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是好不好好接著院長本席想接著來請教有關我們國家的兒童還有青少年的問題我想請教院長孩子們在教室裡有沒有權利呼吸新鮮乾淨的空氣他們有沒有權利 |
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任何一個人在任何地方應該要這樣那您有瞭解我們現在台灣的兒童青少年他們 |
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在这个呼吸新鲜空气这一块是没有人在管他们的三不管地带您知道吗对台湾整个空气品质是每一天都随时在监控的那请问室内空气品质管理法教育部有没有列为主管单位院长我请教你 |
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有沒有我們是環境部環境部不是主管單位什麼環境部那孩子的這個呼吸乾淨的空氣的這個權責在哪 |
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我們環境部目前 報告委員我們今年針對22個重點的工業區的旁邊的學校我們開始進行監測就是22個是常常被抓的 排放特別多的我們會特別來保護對 所以這就是問題了院長 本席請教你空屋治理難道不應該納入學校衛生法嗎 |
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空污治理不會只局限在學校一個單位裡面它一定是整個我的意思說學校衛生法裡面要不要有空污治理這一塊學校它一個單位裡面不可能自己空氣好外面空氣不好也不可能外面空氣不好裡面只有學校是好剛剛部長講的你這樣但是你現在 |
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院長小孩子的肺還沒有發育完全那你那個空汙的標準跟成人一樣你現在沒有小孩子的 |
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所以你現在在學校附近的這個你說工業區怎麼樣那都是成人的標準那我問你小孩子誰來照顧誰來管誰來關心他們我們的孩子氣喘各方面呼吸系統的這個問題因為這個環境的變遷我想院長還有部長也清楚所以那現在孩子的這個怎麼辦 |
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尤其在校園校園的空氣品質的這種監控 |
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我想教育部長不會不關心吧我們孩子都在他一到五一天有八小時在學校特別是國小國中國小國中的孩子這一塊你現在是個漏洞 |
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本席要特別講韓國他們非常重視其實世界各國都很重視我特別舉韓國韓國的例子他們就是把空污防治寫進法律等於是他們由對各級學校他們把空氣污染的治理納入學校衛生法這就是因為為什麼本席要特別提出來 |
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他從法律層面建立了校園的空品監測以及改善的一個法理的基礎可是我們沒有好我們的做法教育部長本席請你一定要還有這個卓院長要請你們知道我現在要講一個現象 |
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我們如果在學校突然發現空氣真的很有問題我們的做法是把戶外活動從課表裡面刪掉人家是把空污房子寫進法律 |
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1277.76 |
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所以現在有校園污染通報的防護措施韓國他們是有制度有預算有標準的在他們在保護孩童的肺我們的政府是在限制我們孩子的腿就是不一樣的做法我們現在有校園污染的防治措施現在中小學我們事實上以中山大學王家村PM2.5研究中心那是高校深耕特別 |
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支持的一個特殊靈異研究中心帶著中小學在發展研究做PM2.5許多的這些學校校園空屋的空氣的監控包括許多教學上的一些協助我們也培養了非常多的一些種子老師我想在這一個部分你培養種子老師但是現在空屋的房子 |
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1321.138 |
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你教育部完全沒有在管我們的整個學校有通報系統那現在環境部他怎麼協助學校包委員我們有這個教育部環境部還有國科會還有經濟部一起合作我們四個部會針對兒少的呼吸權 |
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1337.954 |
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特別是我們體檢工業區還有增加通報機制還有室內的空氣品質的污染我們的確跨部會在做可是本席剛剛提出來你看兒童他這個空污的標準到現在兒童沒有特別的啊 |
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有報委員第一個你說的韓國全國PM2.5平均是20我們台灣是12.8所以韓國的問題比我們嚴重很多我們當然可以再改進第二個我們現在是跨部會但是現在就是我們孩子的標準我們孩子的標準沒有人在關心啊你要有孩子的標準啊就是因為教育單位沒有權責 |
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現在納進去了 我想感謝委員提醒但是他確實是一個跨部會在合作的對兒童的一個身心的一個健康我想當然教育部是非常關心的包委我們不能夠隨隨便便提一個標準所以我目前的確要跟最保持要顧 |
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但是因為學童的權益我希望教育部一定要有權責那當然專業的方面請環境部甚至衛福部剛剛有講我們本來就應該跨部會整合好嗎好OK那接著本席要再繼續請教我們卓院長那我們要特別就這個托育還有幼兒園的這個福利政策 |
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本席特别这边有一个表就是我们现在0到6岁的学童我们中央政府对0到6岁的学童的这种照顾我们特别看0到2岁还有2岁以上2到6岁 |
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看到這個家長的負擔本席最主要要講的就是家長的負擔這個在過去本席總質詢的時候也有特別跟卓院長有特別建議過我不知道回去有沒有相關單位大家有沒有再去研擬我們能不能再更加的來照顧因為少子化一直以來的這個國安危機都沒有解除過那很大的原因就是年輕的家長 |
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他们0到6岁的孩子他们的负担非常的重所以我们看到0到2岁如果你念这个准公共的话你这个家长的负担一个就光一个我们都是看第一个那你不是6000 9000那如果你要念私立又更多1万多每个月 |
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1505.114 |
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那兩歲以上那當然能夠念這個公立的或準公共的我們一千兩千三千但如果你要念私立的兩萬所以本席在這裡要再次的請命卓院長我們應該是可以你國安在其他方面的國安你編很多但是我們這個孩子的教育我們希望可以譬如說我們公立的我們就讓他免費 |
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1506.237 |
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1524.51 |
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我們公立的我們就讓他免費然後念私立的我們來補貼補貼他一萬五院長這個部分可不可以去研擬然後來為我們很多的年輕人還有很多未來我們希望我們的這個少子化的情況他能夠反轉 |
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這個也是我們長年來一直努力的方向我們對0到6歲國家一起養的這樣的一個工程在明年的中央政府總預算一共編列了1106億也相當的不少那也是逐年的增加對 我們就是說對家長的負擔因為你一次一點給那些家長看了 |
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還是覺得我不一定能負擔所以很多年輕人可能就不生但是現在如果公立的你都給他免費而且我也必須肯定我們現在政府在公立準公共化非營利這一塊其實很努力在做所以讓年輕的家長安心公立的我們就給他免費然後私立的謝謝院長的善意的回應私立的我們補貼多一點 |
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1593.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
讓他們的負擔再少一點這樣我們希望這種少子化的因素至少在0到6歲他這個孩子整個的這種托育還有幼兒園的部分他們就0到6歲那6年他們就會比較放心 |
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是在育兒的政策的需求而且年輕父母的需要以及對家庭的支出我們一定往這個方向去處理明年的預算我請委員先支持1106億就在這裡我們未來會支持而且現在公立的各個機構量還要增加公立還不夠那1106億你們這個研擬一下公立就先給他免費那私立我們希望補助再多一點 |
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1620.333 |
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1646.316 |
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我們朝這個方向想明年我們會踏出一大步的明年踏出一大步就是這個數字應該都是明年我們要做的第二胎還有家的我知道 第二胎還有家謝謝委員的支持 謝謝我們希望一起來努力讓年輕人感生而且讓我們的未來國家的幼苗能夠得到很好的教育再來本席要請教院長 |
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1648.476 |
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1671.332 |
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院長這個水啊 水權啊就是喝這個能夠有安全充足可負擔的自來水這個應該是最基本的人權吧院長您認同吧這也是一個文明社會的基本條件嘛那但是我們現在還有100萬人沒有自來水喝 |
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1672.754 |
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1691.773 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
這一個部分本席要在這裡特別請命因為按照現在整個長久以來的這種進行的方式要讓所有的國人特別是那些到現在還無自來水的地區的民眾有自來水喝要248年 |
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1693.925 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
1711.788 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
所以這一塊能不能加緊腳步例如我們是不是可以來考慮自來水普及化加速執行的特種基金可以考慮這樣嗎因為248年你我都等不到但是現在很多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
1712.569 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
1724.974 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
我們想像不到現在所還沒有的地方都是一些工程在施工上相當的困難的不只這樣很多是根本還乏人問津喔院長這個在我的選區很多人的選區都是如此我們有編了一個計畫嘛 |
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1728.895 |
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1752.919 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
因為我們如果是非常的在山里的偏鄉的話我們至少可以用所謂的簡易自來水但是簡易自來水還是安全的那本席直接講院長您剛剛說有的是工程延宕的這一塊當然是另一個我們要討論的但是還有很多沒有的他可能真的按照這個經費這樣子編列要200多年這個部分來想個辦法 |
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1758.02 |
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1785.998 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
我們這一期的工作 從114年到118年是106億的經費 但他也只能接6萬對呀 106億太少了 我們是不是可以有能不能為了這個來做特種機因為那些人其實他跟我們一樣都是中華民國國民但是他家的水洗白襯衫越洗越黃 白襯衫變成黃襯衫還有他們家的水 但根本是不能喝的 |
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1786.823 |
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1795.175 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
他們很可憐啊沒有可以啦還有100萬人這個檢疫自來水還是可以喝不是檢疫自來水很多連檢疫自來水都沒有啊部長 |
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1797.001 |
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1821.469 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
還有很多現在本席說的100萬人是沒有的所以這一塊可能要請院長跟部長你們要更加的了解因為看來你們不知道現況他還有100萬人是沒有的喔連潔衣自來水都沒有政治上是已經有在執行114年到118年這等於是今年開始執行能不能加速弄一個特種基金來加速執行 |
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1821.869 |
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1821.889 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
好 謝謝 |