| IVOD_ID |
163805 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163805 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-4-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期第3次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期第3次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-03T14:31:54+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-03T14:46:59+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:05 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/095f1cfadbf5b8901dd1bfb678ceab64704543300bdabf02cfe8ed51afeb83d5f61d29bd310f8b835ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳亭妃 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:31:54 - 14:46:59 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第3次會議（事由：一、行政院院長、主計長、財政部部長、經濟部部長及相關部會首長列席報告「中央政府因應國際情勢強化經濟社會及民生國安韌性特別預算案」編製經過並備質詢（10月3日）。二、對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢（10月7日）。三、10月3日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。四、10月7日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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謝謝副院長 我們請卓榮泰院長請卓院長備詢參議員好院長 因為我在立法院今年邁入第18年我覺得有些還是要講實話而且 |
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在整個行政團隊這麼用心編了這個預算特別條例特別預算如果用兩個字草率我覺得這樣是抹煞了所有人的努力而且我們也支持任何一個立委你對預算任何一筆預算有意見有質疑你直接可以發文問我們的行政單位 |
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而且我們在下個禮拜三就要開始審查3跟4就要審查我們的任性特別預算這個在現場我們就可以提出那如果你認為在文字上不清楚因為你要這麼短的時間確實像教育部200億你要很清楚去說明 |
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也比較難那麼我們請委員可以直接發文給各部會針對各部會所編列的預算一五一十請他們說明清楚那我也要拜託我們院長如果我們各部會真的收到這樣的一個立委辦公室的相關文件我們全部一次把它說清楚講明白 |
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好的可以我也要求這麼做而且未來如果大家委員有這樣的意見我希望我們各部位未來在編預算的過程當中盡量把它寫的詳細一點那也許他的篇幅會很大會增加委員的負擔我覺得也沒有關係讓大家充分了解我想以後大家要多做這個準備工作院長你說的就對了即使 |
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國後都不管 既然他需要了解我們就講給他了解否則他用了兩個字草率對我們來講很受傷耶大家在前線拼得這麼辛苦為什麼會有這麼多的感觸因為在這一次風災院長謝謝你們有到第一線可是因為我們的服務員真的太大 |
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所以大家一時之間會覺得這裡有被關心到那裡沒有被關心到所以有很多不一樣的一個訊息產生所以這就是我們在第一線其實我們在7月7號到了現場的時候一直到所有我們中央部會都有下來的時候我們才慢慢退開 |
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所以在那個時候我們知道問題在哪裡我們也謝謝院長有接受我們的建議有請我們各部會的公共工程部門下到第一線去協助有些低收入戶中低收入戶邊緣戶都第一時間把他們完成了這個房子的修建謝謝你們但是我必須說 |
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我們的路還很長院長你親自有去現場看到我們的路還很長從農業從漁業從我們房子的重建復建其實還有產業我們經濟部的中小企業還有相關的廠房其實他們現在都急待幫忙 |
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所以真的這條路非常的漫長所以我們拜託院長持續給我們更多的關心會的 應該的 會的給我們更多的預算沒有預算我們根本走不出任何一條康莊大道所以這個拜託院長那麼今天的任性的部分其實我比較遺憾的是 |
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當時候我們在任性我們有把台電這個部分有放進去可是非常遺憾的最後是被刪掉的兩次第一次是一千億的挹注第二次是兩百億的加強任性 |
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這是被刪掉的這是我比較遺憾的所以我們單純只能靠著丹納斯颱風跟728豪雨災後復原重建特別條例這裡面的加強電網的部分目前就只能靠這一條而且在這個部分我們從哪幾個區塊我們總共102億 |
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其中八十億是遷改供電線路就是我們的地下化然後還有輸配電架空線路因為有些地方是不能地下化的但是我們要加強它的穩固性起碼不要風一來真的 當時候仗著這麼多的電感 |
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然後一次倒塌整個沿海地帶所以現在這個是我們現在必須做的重中之重所以我們在這一次我們的風災特別條例特別預算裡面我們有從台1線在台南台1線台17線台19線 |
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台20線南21線173線道這幾條主要的所謂的主幹道因為我們現在從主幹道一直做進來主幹道如果沒做的話這次就是全部倒塌的都是主幹道才會增加了修復的時間還有困難度所以我們這一次我們總共在特別預算風災特別預算15億台南15億 |
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可是這15億你知道嗎我們做的只有部分只有部分然後我們原本期待再韌性還可以再加強一批可是被刪掉了那麼在我們明年度的預算我整個問了一遍院長你知道在這個部分如果依照電纜地下化在明年度的預算只有多少嗎 |
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應該是沒有特別特別做電纜地下化的預算明年度的預算沒有沒有三億跟過去一樣沒有特別所以我們在風災的特別條例當中編了這些錢就是因為我看到 |
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三千多個電感 三個高壓電塔也倒了那這個完全是一個風災帶來的新的多的而且嚴重的傷害跟原來的年度預算是沒有辦法把它涵蓋的所以編了這個預算那我們也認為不夠當初如果編多一點也許大家另外一個討論但是我們是何時來編沒有想到我們在任性裡面我們希望至少你給他多一點的錢讓他來補結果還是被刪掉那我想 |
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我們除了這102億之外啊明年我們想辦法來做先期的只要他不是易淹水的不是土質鬆軟的不是土質下限的地方該做的我們首先至少先來規劃院長這個很重要我為什麼今天這麼樣的沉痛因為 |
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沒有電纜地消耗這一次其實因為風災我們所有台電所有的同仁們都很辛苦第一時間調了所有全國的工班都到了我們的災區但是我們當時候就是臨時性而且以最快的速度讓大家都有電 |
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可是我們很擔心像現在每次跟我們講說颱風要來了你知道嗎我們都到每一家廟宇走到哪裡拜到哪裡拜託不要再讓我們的颱風造成我們台南在這樣子的一個災區二次的傷害 |
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因為他們還沒有完全復原所以我今天會特別拜託院長的事我們這一次因為特別條例風災特別條例看到了我們台南這12個災區的一個狀況所以呢我們給了我們15億從這幾個主幹線可是真的不夠真的不夠那剛剛院長也說了 |
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對 沒有 我是說我們台南台南是15億 全部是80億對 全部80億 我們台南是10億對 已經比例比較高了對 已經比例比較高但是你看我們比例比較高 還是不夠 |
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所以我們期待的是我們的任性被刪掉了我們的工部門的年度預算還是不能來做這樣的一個編列因為幾不進去因為這個東西一定是要用特別預算所以我們希望我們一定要想一個辦法 |
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要怎麼樣在這個韌性電網當中韌性電網絕對不是只有我們現在在談的這幾樣說加強輸變電線路變壓器還有建置變電所線路電網措施離岸風電併網還有強化各地供電負載智慧電表換裝不是只有這幾個 |
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真的 我們的韌性電碗其實是有一個很重要的長期性原來我們規劃超高壓的部分那個本來就5000多億有比較細的就是102億這個也有中間這一塊是更需要的所以我們編在韌性那個地方但是非常可惜的是在特別條例的時候就已經被刪除了 |
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所以我們一定要思考說到底我們這個被任性刪掉的這200億我們該怎麼辦 |
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或許他們沒有在災區他們不知道或許他們沒有看到每一支電桿每一支電桿這樣瞬間倒閉的那種恐怖或許他們沒有在第一線看到災民沒有電沒有水的一個狀況或許他們沒有辦法感同身受可是我們不行 |
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我們一定要很清楚這是一個全國性的問題這次發生在台南下一次要發生在哪裡我們不知道因為現在是極端氣候沒有人可以跟天去比因為我們只有做到萬全的準備來等待就像 |
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拜總統常講的我們要做萬全的準備我們要事先做預防我們要事先做好讓大家可以有提醒的效果那麼發生的時候才知道我們該怎麼辦從中央到地方都是如此因為第一線的 |
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公務人員 地方政府 中央政府如果沒有清楚知道發生問題我們該有什麼SOP那請問我要怎麼去協助我們的災民去做相關的一個配合 |
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756.335 |
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所以我覺得這是現實性的問題沒有人敢跟天去比賽我們只有靠自己所以院長我們這被刪的200億任性的部分怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
758.553 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
782.459 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
好報告委員這個部分既然是在旦那時颱風之後我們發覺實際的需要雖然現在目前的預算看不出來有他除了這筆預算之外除了這81億之外102億之外我們來想辦法未來的年度把它優先把它列進來我也請部長能夠把這個列為重點怎麼樣剛剛說過不是一煙水的不是地層下陷不是土質鬆軟只要是迎風面的地方我們都應該全面來檢討優先來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
784.259 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
810.595 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
以後的預算把它表現出來而且院長我們就直接我們不要設一個說我未來要加強點我們就直接跟他講我們就要做電纜地下化這個管線的一個調整所以如果誰敢擋那以後他不要編嘛他的縣市不要編嘛他的縣市不要嘛因為他認為不重要嘛但我們認為重要啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
811.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
822.193 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
來自災區經過這樣一路一路走過來災民很辛苦所以院長這個部分請把它點名 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
824.206 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
850.717 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
點名我們今天就是要針對這個部分去做好萬全的準備因為我們不能再容忍有一次這麼樣的一個迎風面的颱風然後把所有的電線桿都吹倒了今天發生在中南部下次難道不會發生在中北部嗎一定誰都預測不了所以我們就要把預算編好做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
852.855 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
865.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
這樣子才能做到讓人民安心讓人民有感才知道我們的錢花到哪裡所以院長你記不記得你去看了曾文希排水17年 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
868.255 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
890.861 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
17年耶你看到的是最後一里路但是我們努力了17年我們不希望我們不希望這當中我們送了多少次便當我們淹了多少次水到了這一次才沒有我們一樣在電纜的部分電纜地下化我們一定要有決心要做到好做到滿好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
891.161 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
902.617 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
好的 謝謝委員 我們朝這個方向會全力的努力啦這是請部長一定要未來的年度把它列為一個重點我們逐步的來最優先地方來開始實施做好 謝謝 謝謝院長 謝謝謝謝陳委員 謝謝 |