IVOD_ID |
163792 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163792 |
日期 |
2025-09-30 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-4-2 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期第2次會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
4 |
會議資料.會次 |
2 |
會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期第2次會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-09-30T15:05:19+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-09-30T15:21:06+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:15:47 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/9a1e91e0be0fc05c38f3a595b2c5b2bbe7e5c8dcf359e5ef2e786596d8e089c51c8d1a4ee289610d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
委員發言時間 |
15:05:19 - 15:21:06 |
會議時間 |
2025-09-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第2次會議(事由:一、討論事項:本院民進黨黨團,針對第11屆第3會期第26次會議報告事項第22案台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「刑事訴訟法第九十三條及第一百零一條條文修正草案」院會所作之決定提出復議。是否有當?請公決案等3案。二、同意權之行使事項:總統咨,為審計部審計長陳瑞敏任期於114年10月1日屆滿,茲依據憲法第一百零四條規定,提名陳瑞敏續任審計部審計長,咨請同意案。三、行政院院長施政報告並備質詢(9月30日下午)。) |
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主席 在場的委員先進 列席的政務機關首長 官員 會長 工作夥伴媒體記者女士先生 還有明德國小的同學 大家好那麼有請我們卓院長另外請教育部長也請準備麻煩請卓院長 教育部長備詢總委員好院長好剛剛 |
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民主黨在報告的時候我也注意到您身旁的空位似乎鄭麗君副院長請假大家很好奇副院長到哪去了明天就會看到她了那麼方便透露她在執行什麼重要任務嗎 |
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也可以算是一個任務就長期以來副院長率領行政院的談判團隊跟美方進行直接的溝通已經是好幾次那現在也在進行最關鍵的實體性的收藏 |
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是 謝謝好 我想這段時間這幾天大家關心的就是我們全台灣的民眾可不可以在家好好的過中秋節我指的是包括我們的國軍官兵弟兄我們第一線搶災救災的工作同仁都非常辛苦 |
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好 那麼想請教一下院長總統說我們今天在花蓮關乎災區的部分希望能夠讓大家都有機會回家過中秋節包括災民跟志工和工作人員你有把握嗎我們朝著這個目標分時間一步一步的達成也分區域分階段一步步的達成現在我們的前進協調所前兩三天 前一個禮拜在那裡的賴建信市長非常的 |
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負責跟疲憊我們希望他回來做報告我們已經請紀連城政委以及李孟慧顧問去接手我們用輪番上陣的方式來用更多的人力來投入災區重建 |
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讓我勾起回憶2009年九一震災的時候1999年九一震災的時候那時候屏東縣政府我也帶隊去埔里救災我們就是在災區過中秋節的這是一個我永生難忘的記憶我們希望台灣以後都不要遇到這樣的災害但是我們很難保不會遇到災害所以救災急平時做好防災就可以減災我在這裡要特別 |
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也要提醒行政院像我這邊舉的幾個例子包括我們屏東縣內埔鄉的龍潭村包括我們的新生路包括我們高速村包括我們離港的迷你村這些看起來零零總總的這些的防災工程都是平常行政院要投資當遇到災害的時候他就會發揮效用可以減災院長支不支持 |
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地方上有任何對於防災的需求我們都希望能夠讓中央來瞭解要馬合力來解決如果真的工程浩大像我剛剛舉的4年1000億的縣市管河川的整治工程地方是沒有辦法來做的 中央就來投入否則就是中央地方來合力完成 |
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謝謝好剛接下來要過中秋節但是過去剛剛過一個教師節想請教教育部長齁全台教師花你看媒體這麼多批評說哎呀國中老師同時在講要兼課甚至呢開學前一週代理教室的缺額高達2600人什麼原因是因為待遇跟不上嗎部長為什麼老師會缺呢 |
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金委員報告這當然有很多的一些因素啦待遇是不是其中之一待遇當然就整體來講當然是一個從老師來講他們當然也期待說待遇能夠提升心情好啊 薪水好 心情才會好教師節才會快樂我請院長看一下 |
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幸運的聽到我們早週東部最近工資從28,590元調高到明年會2950元對不對29,500元但是你看看從2006年到2025年我們基本工資的時薪從66條到190明年要調到195成長187%我們國小教室的中點會只成長了40%國中跟高中只成長了5%中點費看起來是老師他額外上課的費用 |
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但是也是我們代理教師的一個蓄心的標準所以請部長 院長可不可以指示部長研究一下合理的提升教師中年費讓我們的國中小師子不要缺 可以嗎部長要不要說一下這個原因跟我們現在新的想法 |
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跟我們報告確實我們現在在整體來講就老師的一個待遇包含終點會包含老師的一些部長我真的是終點會我知道我們教育待遇都在調整但是終點會很久沒有調可以考慮一下好不好是好謝謝部長好那麼請回 |
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那麼過去這段時間大家都很關心行政院提出了很多扶國立民的政策但是個人覺得要先立民才能扶國扶國立民則民富 民富則國強人民支持政府政府就有更大的力量去支持做扶國的政策這裡的建民連包括提到了最近剛宣布了生育補助10萬元院長你覺得民眾買單嗎 領情嗎 |
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這是政府衡量當今的財政狀況我們把所有在各種社會保險不公平的狀態之下把它拉平而已而且絕對沒有辦法 |
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幼嬰更大來 又是大家身材其實啊 有人 訪問在說啊我娶一個小孩 娶到大漢要花一千也要七八百萬你貼一百十萬塊 我真的要省嗎我是覺得宣傳上可以調整我們看一下其實難道政府生一胎只給十萬嗎你看一看 我們從小到大你說學前的保母會可能估計要佔七十四萬大學的學會要五十四萬從零到十八歲的生活一百八十萬 |
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然後大學呢還要再升回720萬養一個小孩人家估計要668萬但是政府也做了很多啊托育補助7000到13000啊對不對有公費疫苗啊高中以下全部學會全免啊政府這麼多其實民眾應該有感但是我建議一個我們往下看 |
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你如果說十萬塊喔 你說要花錢的孩子 人家說花不去啊你說建貨你十萬塊做過來 你覺得民眾聽了會怎麼樣欸 建貨我十萬塊做過來 你知道以前坐月子很辛苦對不對是啊 但現在有坐月子中心嘛 師傅長 有沒有你知不知道行情多這 一個月就差不多十萬啦 |
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所以院長 兩位部長很辛苦推了很多福國利民的政策又是有利人民的宣傳上好的政策我們支持但是你要讓民眾有感嘛你說寫一個給你十萬 還是說你做過來我給你十萬你說得最好 部長你覺得呢 |
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跟委員報告 確實在這個讓民眾真正有感的說法上我們可以來好好的調整說法黃部長呢你還單身啦 還沒有小孩啦其實這當然是給多一點的經濟支持可是我們同時也推出了比方說職場的彈性 漁業流停的彈性也包括接下來可能會有一些托育政策的更進一步的強化我覺得它是一整體的確實不是只是看那個數量好 謝謝兩位部長 可以請回院長 |
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楊委員你剛剛那個想法日前我聽你提過我覺得非常的有創意那聽你提過就知道我們很多的想法也在從您說的這個角度開始來做一些思考 感謝其實人民希望很多的政策跟政府的想法不一樣 譬如說我們來看一下吧大南方新矽谷 你覺得民眾怎麼想大壹雞店要來了啦高雄 屏東搶著歡迎台積電換成你是縣市首長 你會不會去爭取台積電來 |
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我們各縣市首長在招商的工作當中都非常的邁向 都在爭取嘛但是我們跨過來想地方政府營養的台積電當地的居民得到什麼他們有得到台積電的工作嗎 未必啊台積電的員工年薪兩三百萬但是我們都已經不可能不一定台積電來借錢給你吃頭了啊台積電大賺錢我台積電的工資我也買不啊所以當我們看到了當台積電來到地方之後我們看到有幾個受益者第一個 |
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地方政府因為用地變更 因為台積電到我們屏東 院長你知道嗎台湯有多少公尺 台湯地有多少 五萬公頃我們屏東這麼多 一萬一千公頃所以台積電要去屏東 屏東的地要多但是台積電來到屏東 地要收好處是什麼 屏東縣政府因為變更地嘛 農地變成公約地 它能收好多地給水 |
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台糖也因為這樣的關係 它的土地價格提高重要的 它以前台糖租給農民啊一公頃一袋才六萬塊啦 真沒到小日本 貪憂寒啦你認為 如果台糖一公頃租給台積電租給農民收六萬 租給台積電你就要收多少錢 |
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就一個六百萬一千萬都補一格啦 台積電貪污對不對問題是台塘收的這些錢 地方有什麼好處我告訴你台塘一年繳雇盈餘大概四十六四十七億啦其中四十億呢是租金的收入你減少減少喔 台塘沒影響啦但是我來建議好不好 往下看 |
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如果說你台積電的屏東市場台湯多數租金的收入要來揮霍讓我們屏東住地年輕人要嫁娼一個五十萬兩個一百萬你會扣入嗎台湯來揮霍你覺得怎麼樣 |
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這是非常甜蜜的建議是嘛 所以我們覺得說台糖付就是付不起台糖的營收繳酷給全國我們屏東也不能分多少但是台積電 台湯的土地在我們屏東啊台積電尺寸 我們也沒有湯就湯也沒有湯就辣是不是讓年輕人年輕人要賺第一桶金一百萬你覺得估計要幾年 |
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五年跑不掉啦很認真啊如果說今天我們政府台積電在屏東設廠台糖增加租金收益我們就發行用區塊鏈限定用途讓這個一百萬他不會偶然開他要租房子他要買房子他要請保姆他要給政府什麼給他用賣你覺得可不可以來考量一下作為專案 |
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我們事業單位整個的營運都有它的法定營運設計跟機制沒關係我請國發會主委來幫你因為他是來自中華經濟研究院他這個問題有研究我請國發會主委來所以我們再下來看那個次長請回 |
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我們再也請財政部長也準備其實現在年輕人成家是一個壓力年輕人希望有加薪但是我們過去有一個中小企業發展條例過去訂到現在財政部長待會回答一下 |
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說如果老闆幫員工加薪他的營所稅可以再加薪175%加100塊可以抵175塊的營利事業所得我想請教部長從實施以來你有聽到哪個企業說我幫員工加薪來抵我的營所稅的有沒有聽說 |
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跟委員報告 在之前中小企業發展條例在修正之前它的條件是比較嚴苛後修正後呢修正後門檻放低了然後其實會有加成那當然這個部分還要再補充效果不好啦 其實齁 |
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過去國民黨團也要提議啊他乾脆說政交法因為上市會公司比較有錢他說呢 要修改公司章程公司有賺錢 盈餘優先來幫員工加薪明年要實施 我等著看好不好為什麼台灣的企業老闆賺錢不幫員工加薪你有沒有講過 我給你看 |
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因為呢 獲利啊 如果我幫他加薪 我員工領一部分員工領一百塊 多一百塊 多一千塊 多一萬的薪水老闆要多付什麼 勞保 健保 勞退 這些他一起付而且呢 以後一旦加了 就一直要付但是老闆喜歡發什麼 發獎金發獎金 員工十領十 我發十萬獎金 二領十萬 |
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老闆不用再花什麼勞健保的這些費用而且萬一公司明年沒有賺錢我也不會因為成本居高不下部長 院長你了解嘛對不對好 所以我們來想想看現在員工我們來問一下員工我們現在退休他要有自提跟老闆提老闆的6%都一定有提但是請問一下 |
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你知道員工字體的部分到目前很少耶只有120萬900多人的勞工只有129萬人參加這個新制的字體啊為什麼員工覺得我薪水不夠我哪有才再提一個字體是不是這樣子那如果今天我們呢老闆幫員工加薪加的這個錢呢可以來抵老闆以後啊移正稅啊可以來抵移正稅部長移正稅你到一年收多少錢嘛 |
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移政稅當然收的總數不是很好移產稅417億 證語稅314億這是機會稅 老實說機會稅不是我們的主力財源對不對營所稅是對個人在課所以我說不要去抵營所稅移政稅是對個人在課是的 沒有錯所以說我建議說 院長請我們葉主委去評估一下如果老闆幫員工的自提 他來提而且勞工還可以自選 |
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我不用自己存錢 我的薪水都自己拿老闆還幫我自體的部分幫我付1% 2% 到6% 隨便他但是要投資哪個幾乎通這個定期定額 欸 以後收的錢是我的其實呢 這樣的方式 而且這個一證稅不見的老闆他自己就用啊 他有時候用不到的時候用區塊鏈的方式 還可以轉移給別人院長 是不是請我們主委去研究一下 |
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讓老闆幫員工加薪老闆自己未來的遺證稅可以照顧自己意思是說在做功課啦你替別人的孩子幫忙 |
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你女兒 你的孩子要多少錢 請有給他優待 院長要不要考慮一下謝謝委員的建議 政府常年來推動減稅減負擔這個理念就是我們一直希望建立一個更合理的稅制人民跟政府之間會因為這樣而更加的信任所以您剛剛提的建議從稅制的整個改變也採用這個方式來進行 研究一下好不好 最後一個這次才畫完一個第一期週 三百四十五億發不出去 |
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有人說到底要怎麼發 要修法 我覺得不要再修了這三百四十億 我們找一個有意義的往下看我們現在最辛苦的是領國民年金的人 一個月領不到四千塊老農金還有八千一百一十元 可是有將近四十萬人如果說讓他領足五千 根據今明年的建議只要兩百二十三億 |
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所以說 財化法這個錢啊 我們就留下來幫全部老農 那個國民年金領不到八千的人 幫他補足我覺得這個建議很可行可不可以請院長指示一下相關部會研究一下 可不可以依法上面來這樣使用有他的 有他的這個在法律上的不足因為 這個是統籌分配稅款統籌分配稅款中間也不能用現在發布出去 地方也不能用整個雙重的 |
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好 謝謝鍾嘉斌 |