| IVOD_ID |
163589 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163589 |
| 日期 |
2025-08-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-08-20T09:34:59+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-08-20T09:45:54+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:55 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3feaef107a98f0c98af6cbfa178cd5b90ed9bbdce0c54962345a8bd8ab953c937de200420ef263515ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林岱樺 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:34:59 - 09:45:54 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-08-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長就「協助中小企業災後復原辦理情況」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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有請部長郭部長委員好來 部長您風災過後您到我高雄的重災區山區南馬俠桃園茂林走過嗎 |
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到目前还没有还没有但您跟我你没有到我高雄的重灾区那您到高雄这边可能问过全国老百姓大概印象最深刻的就是您跟我们中小企业组的座谈发声的邀请我们中小企业组投资这个美国4000亿的举例以云之后呢经济部呢花了两天的时间说明 |
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那我為什麼提到重災區呢我本席非常的不滿我看到您通篇的報告您說您去了嘉義去了台南這還是你們的訪視訪問團喔有到台北有到嘉義市這個台南嘉義就沒有到我高雄的重災區您知道高雄的重災區呀這三區發生了什麼事情呢來這個新聞 |
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颱風過後喝山泉水喝到沒命高雄風災山人懶類比取往這個類比取啊死亡率45%到75%所以說呢也就是說你對於山區重災區之後道路中斷水跟電完全沒有斷水斷電 |
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電你們從以前到現在都有講到電韌性花了將近4000到5000多億來做電網韌性所以到山區啊大概台電也都知道我趕快要布建這個微電網都已經有這個政策的預算而這將近5000億的電韌性是誰給的不是你不本不給的是行政院重視行政院給的錢那水韌性呢 |
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部長 這個我完全沒有看到經濟部部本部你水電的任性你是主責機關欸是經濟部對於水電任性你是規劃欸但你們沒有喔 |
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這不是台水跟台電的工作而且包括這個台水本身它最主要的工作是什麼它只做漏 它只做防漏然後呢 這個汰換水管那汰換水管的錢到現在它都得借錢你們喔 這了不起啦齁在王美花部長這邊啊 捐取了八十億分四年給一年二十億都不夠二十億放在我高雄都不夠 |
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所以呢在這個水韌性當中你看我們福倫社都還會趕快的去捐這個災區喔仿山鄉屏東兩部淨水器一部淨水器重達2到3公斤輕輕的而且也不用電大概花台幣10萬塊那他送兩部可以一部可以過濾20萬公升的飲用水 |
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我的水公司包括經濟部本部你們完全沒想到喔這是趕快用一個淨水器讓大家在這個趕快的只要任何的水下去就過濾了 也沒有裡面最基礎的淨水錠也沒有這個過膜酸鉀錠至少也給災區通通沒有所以部長你怎麼看這件事情報告委員 您所指摘的部分 |
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是我們水利署要跟地方政府共同去處理的事情不是只有我們自來水公司那水公司有所謂這個水韌性的這件事情在規劃嗎 |
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那我是不是請自來水公司跟你報告一下你讓水公司來回答我我政府的水韌性部長你有沒有搞錯啊一個電網的韌性都要5400億行政院院長當做當做這個政績在宣傳5400億的電網韌性你現在說一個水韌性所以要謙虛一點沒錯就沒想到就說沒想到這樣的危機你要重視 |
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部長你不認為水韌性這件事情你應該要一定要這是新的東西 就算你沒有 你說你感到抱歉那我覺得這個確實是這風災當中讓我們忽略了這樣的一個議題所以你要報部本部你讓一個水公司 水公司都不夠給我站在這邊 給我講水韌性水公司是誰來 你敢講水韌性的東西喔 那我就要問你囉來 來 水公司你要講嗎我不回答水公司 我最挺水公司了啦我覺得你們可憐啦 |
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哪有到現在執行政府的最主要的預算太舊換新的這個水管竟然還在用借錢部長不重視行政院根本也不知道我們的苦楚講任性吧 誰任性 |
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謝謝委員 委員對台水公司確實非常非常的協助也幫忙非常多那我想剛剛委員所指的部分這一次因為是一個颱風的部分我想我知道委員最主要是說當這些比較偏遠山區的部分的 |
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大宇跟高所的部分也希望台水这边也能尽量的赶快来看有没有一些过滤的一些快滤的过滤桶也许可能我们做的还不够那委员这样的指正我们未来会有如果想办法把这个移动的过滤桶赶快去来解决让民众当下能赶快解决至于这个供水的任性的部分我想经济部其实也积极在做做什么来你说 |
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我想我們當然就是一個開發水源跟一個水源的一個區域的調度的部分這個會來做那當然沒有錯大概總預算要多少那整個時候執行完電網韌性5400億的電網韌性5400億是有執行有執行業務也有清楚的執行期限的來您說看看 |
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委員當然是高度非常夠 這個整個供水的韌性確實是一個涵蓋非常廣我真的覺得你真的很有擔當你要來回答本席水熱性的東西 部長你放在後面至少水利署要來講話 水利署沒有來也不講話 部長你不講話 部長 |
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我真的覺得齁這個一個領導人從哪裡可以看出這個領導人的特質跟能力從危機當中看出一個領導人的危機跟能力如果本席點出的這種的韌性也是有平時的水韌性喔有平時時期的水韌性你怎麼做你在危機時候的水韌性怎麼做城鄉之泉的分布來副總那個您下去吧 |
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部長我再給你一個機會你認得水韌性要怎麼說 怎麼做呢有電網韌性 水韌性要怎麼說呢跟委員抱歉喔水的部分我不是專家所以我沒有辦法回應你的問題沒有辦法回應喔你要不要做什麼改進我們會 我回去會要求水利署一起來重視委員所指責的這個問題什麼時候提出這個水韌性的這樣的方案是什麼時候 |
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我們一個禮拜好了一個禮拜喔好你不要只聽那個副總副總我真的覺得你很棒你真的很有承擔但是我覺得你的成績不夠成平時後該有怎麼樣的包括你們太舊換新的水管這件事情都應該趕快的列入這個任性裡面甚至你的任性你的電網任性要不要解決你公司的債務讓你永續經營這都可以考慮喔 |
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包括你們對於高廢水 高耗水的部分你什麼開源跟節流嘛 這都是不是要納入 積極的去導入包括災後的時候的這個水韌性當中這部分不應該講的 一個禮拜做得出來 我覺得很奇怪然後這個東西是你要跟行政院來做來跟你的主計處 跟行政院院長這邊是要做溝通的 |
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部長我認為我再講一次危機的時候才可以看出一個領導人的一個特質跟能力是不是擔任是不是適合做決策者是不是適合來做我真認為您自己在這個內閣當中的角色其實你應該是要自己重新評估而不是變成 |
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是希望你不要再拉垮左內閣的整個的民調也最重要的是對於我們災民讓災民有感是一個有溫度有靠山的政府好以上謝謝謝謝謝謝委員好謝謝等一下那個蕭副總那個一個禮拜是只有那個高雄還是全台灣的評估只有高雄是不是 |
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我非常感謝主席延續我的議題 這樣的程序問題主席我是不是請你裁示 我覺得一個禮拜做不出來因為是包括整個全台灣的水韌性 比照台電韌性的問題所以請主席是不是 我認為我願意給他多一點時間至少三個禮拜到一個月 一個禮拜是不可能做出來連彰化等等 他是要去做盤點 |
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这个不是只有针对灾区也是整个做盘点林委员你要求的是全台湾的水韧性的计划而不是高雄的水韧性计划那请经济部回去再评估再提出相关全台湾的水韧性的计划那是不是我请主席是不是参考一下一个月内提出来全台的水韧性的这个方案那郭部长是不是能够一个月内全台湾的 |
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好那就一個月提出全臺灣的水韌性的相關計畫現在請陳廷飛委員做詢問 |