| IVOD_ID |
163584 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163584 |
| 日期 |
2025-08-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-08-20T11:52:29+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-08-20T12:02:31+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:02 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3feaef107a98f0c9ab12c141f793a10f0ed9bbdce0c54962817c1cbb294e2f3586617f26213d19805ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
蔡易餘 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:52:29 - 12:02:31 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-08-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長就「協助中小企業災後復原辦理情況」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席那我們是不是有請郭部長郭部長委員好部長從8月1號這個20%的這個關稅來我想現在所有的產業逛腕的居多 |
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那大家也都還在期待說我們對外宣示的這個暫時性關稅那到最後的一個談判結果那部長如果你這樣來判斷的話這個暫時性關稅那跟美國繼續談判這段時間差不多會多久以我們所收集的情報對台灣的關稅應該跟美國主要要談跟中國的關稅 |
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有一些關聯性存在跟中國還沒有談完嘛 美國跟中國還沒有談嘛跟中國當然是一個很重要的一個節點那台灣跟中國你意思說會受到干擾 我們會受到中國的干擾我們倒是認為啦 現在的20%關稅再往下走往下走是我們的目標啦 |
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當然啦 大家都是這樣期待繼續要往下走但是 美國希望對中國課的是比較高的稅他會用台灣來做一個衡量的基準也有這麼樣的一個說法所以部長也這樣說有一些學者也做這樣的討論所以台灣有可能真正的關稅定案要在美國跟中國談完 |
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我们认为我也访谈了很多的业者也访谈了很多的智库他们都 |
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建議說台灣不要這麼快就敲定當然如果一開始就能夠敲定到我們理想的關稅譬如說我們現在大家都希望就是仿造日本韓國然後沒有天花板就是有天花板然後這個不要疊加它走向15%然後我們有同等的對如果我們現在談可以一下子談到這個點我覺得這個是我們大家樂見的對但是如果 |
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對 這是一個談判的一個策略的運用所以部長你會這樣做判斷基本上我認為這個可能性是有的所以你剛剛這樣講的基本上 |
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我是接受會有這樣的一個可能但是這一個的結果就會變成說我剛剛說產業在觀望這個觀望期間就會變得更久我們在這個產業觀望的這段期間裡面我們都做出幾個solution做出幾個方式希望幫助這個產業能夠度過這一陣比較尷尬的期間 |
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那我大概访谈了非常多的工协会也访谈很多的厂商他们倒是对关税这个20加N这一个命题不是那么当然是很重要但是他们更重要的是汇率的汇率因为他讲说美国大概占他可能50% 30% 40%但是汇率如果不稳定 |
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他是100%所以我们现在早是重点上面就短期里面我们希望在关税你就暂时用20加n的这样的一个条件 |
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去努力那是我减少那个汇率的变数减少汇率的变数不就你在说是开始很多抽象的形象因为对他们来说竞争条件没有改变除了日韩比我们好其他我们主要竞争国家如果是在一些传统产业可能像泰国 越南竞争改变不大因为他们的关税顶多比我们少个一趴 |
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不然就是一樣像印度是還多我們5%所以競爭不變的情況之下匯率就是的漲跟跌就是直接的硬傷所以這個是確實有這樣的一個狀況但是產業現在還有的面對的一個課題就是說因為台灣的產業的佈局過去就是走全世界了 |
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過去台灣產業 我們台灣人就做到這種事已經都在全世界佈局了所以台灣產業在全世界佈局的時候他一樣會有面對說每一個國家跟美國的狀況不同然後影響他接下來的佈局 |
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所以我現在是說部長那你有再進一步的跟產業聊說好那如果現在台灣的20加N那跟東南亞甚至全世界的國家那這一些產業他們未來會改變他們的佈局模式嗎是 報告委員我們大概有三個措施第一個就是給金融支持 |
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金融你可能要贷款贷款往后延这个我们做金融师第二个升级转型升级转型第一个我们增加它的升级的条件利用AI应用帮助它在制造的时候升级第二个利用节能减碳降低它的操作成本 |
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第三个帮助他供购一些这个是在国内他们的升级但是最重要是开拓市场开拓美国以外的市场包括我们如何在印度如何在中东如何在东南亚把这个新的市场开拓出来那这个我们也编了 |
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這個比較大的這個開拓市長的費用所以總統有特別指示總統跟院長在這一期我們在115年就是說今後的這個所有的費用裡面這個加很大錢加很大然後這個 |
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讓我們在開拓市場上面能夠更大的發揮就是台灣的在地產業開拓市場美國以外的市場那部長那你判斷會不會有產業他們因為關稅的這個變數存在讓他考慮他要到美國設廠 |
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考慮直接因為他可能原本就有在美國就已經有有公司了現在他進一步的在美國乾脆直接用部分的產業鏈在美國那以後要銷售美國的就直接直接在美國會不會有這樣的公司存在報告委員現在這個有兩個方向第一個就是說我們經濟部本來就有在為這個國內的廠商拓展海外所以我們在去年設了捷克的這個貿易投資貿易中心對 |
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然后我们在今年的4月在福冈日本福冈这个月上个礼拜我们在Dallas也设了这个美国投资贸易中心这个贸易中心就是帮助我们国内厂商先进入到这个市场所以我们会在自由贸易港区里面设置这个所谓的仓储跟配送的这个服务让它减少因为我们可以帮它并贵各方面部长这个厂商是有的哦 |
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我相信你這樣講我們鼓勵過去台灣在做鋼鋁的他們因為美國跟他們科很重的稅嘛所以事實上有一些鋼鐵公司他們早就在美國設廠了沒錯 我們會買通路我會鼓勵廠商他們去經營通路我們就協助他找到美國的通路商然後我們請他們能夠M&A去好 部長 |
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台灣的民間的這個生命力很強所以他們知道在美國的關稅之下他們要做什麼產業的佈局這個我們對民間投資有信心那我們也知道說台灣國內的部分我們協助他們拓展國內市場但是我覺得經濟部現在有一件事是你們要協助我們接下來在跟美國的談判的一個團隊我們要做什麼事就是說如果台灣 |
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未來美國會不會要求類似日本 類似韓國要求台灣也是要投資美國這一段很有可能會發生 不能排除可以預期 對不對好 既然這件事是可以預期的 |
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那現在台灣要投資美國的原本他們的計畫有投資美國的事實上經濟部現在應該要先把它先做一個數字的統計起來這些統計的數字咧都是未來我們一旦台灣是需要面對美國川普開出條件的時候這些都是我們的籌碼所以我覺得這件事經濟部可以開始去著手 |
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雖然現在還沒有看到條件 但是你怎麼開始去判證啊這就是我們國家的理論 如何在這一次跟川普的談判也許跟川普的談判 因為剛剛講了還有中國因素這個時間我們沒辦法預測 有可能會比想像的還要久一點的時間那我們就有這個時間先把台灣投資美國這件事情 先把這個事理念出來 |
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這些壽禮越漂亮的話基本上我們如果期待這些禮藏都被他花好熱愛這些都是我們最好的籌碼民間都是台灣所有的台灣人都是我們談判的一個最好的的一個一個背光啊是不是 部長這個委員講得非常正確啦齁這個我們都在進行中好 那要繼續努力啦是 謝謝委員好 謝謝好 謝謝 |