| IVOD_ID |
163581 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163581 |
| 日期 |
2025-08-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-08-20T11:32:02+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-08-20T11:42:40+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:38 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3feaef107a98f0c99b4a51b17e0ab8510ed9bbdce0c549626d8aada7af21e6177307c4a423e313cf5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:32:02 - 11:42:40 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-08-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長就「協助中小企業災後復原辦理情況」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席我們請部長也請我們這個財發署的這個邱署長 |
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委員好部長好辛苦了這個請教一下這個部長還有署長我是問這個有關這個汽車關稅的問題那部長知道說現在在我們這一個台北港大概有三萬輛的這個進口車就只在那邊那就是因為關稅的問題就是說消費者會等想說這個等關稅確定之後是不是有便宜的進口車可以買那所以呢這個業者當然也賣不出去那我想請教一下目前我們的這個進口車的關稅是17.5% |
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那這個在談判的過程當中這個汽車關稅是一個非常重要的一個談判的議題那我想請教一下部長目前有關這個汽車關稅這一塊到底有沒有什麼比較具體的一個進程 |
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報告委員我想因為關稅的談判現在還是在進行中我知道暫定的啦對所以這個進口的車的這個關稅目前還沒有還沒有確定但是是會朝向要調降的方向來做談判的一個方向嗎 |
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美国一定会要求我们往下降但是降到什么样的程度现在就是我们的谈判团队跟美国还在继续协商所以有没有可能降到零这个我不清楚因为我不是谈判团队 |
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那你也是業者出身的啦那你也知道說這個在舊美國來講他是想有機會就會把關稅降到零嘛對不對那這是一個參考詞啦那如果降到零的話有沒有想到說對我們產業的影響因為這個降到零就是一個最差的一個情況了嘛那降到零的話這個當然對於這個我們的這個台灣的這些要買車的人當然是一個好消息但是對於台灣的這些這個 |
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这个零件车子零件的业者或整车业者当然会受到影响那有没有想到说会受到什么样的影响呢就国产汽车来讲我们大概就是如果进口车那关税是零或者是这个比较低的这个关税的时候那么会影响到台湾的可能就是汽车零组件还有在台湾制造的这个汽车嘛这个部分我们大概都有跟业者还继续在 |
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在共同努力啦就是說沒有沒有一個比較具體我問兩個比較具體的就好了就是說這個國產車自治率的一個條件然後呢還有這個國內無產制國內沒有產的這個零組件進口的關稅這個兩項這個兩項有沒有去做討論我們都有討論 |
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那有没有一个比较具体的我们现在是这样子就是我们的建议台湾的强项其实应该是在电子零组件上面所以我们其实都有建议这些在台湾有厂的这些所谓外籍的这个公司包括日本的包括韩国的那我们就建议他们能够是不是能够生产电动车 |
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生产电动车因为电动车其实不是日本跟韩国这些公司的主力但是他的客户会要求电动车所以我们建议他是不是让在台湾的厂可以生产他全球的这个他们品牌的电动车那他们是有在考虑但是他们必须要跟他的母厂母公司来协商啦 |
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我想這個我們從這個今年的大概是7月吧7月的時候討論出來一個方向但是關稅有可能在譬如說9月10月就會決定了 |
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所以你要轉型坐電動車那是一個比較long term的一個轉型的目標那我剛才講一個就是說我們有很多是屬於零組件進口就是零組件是台灣當然坐車但是有一些關鍵零組件還是從國外進口那這方面的話關稅有要調降嗎就是不然你台灣的國產車幾乎沒有什麼競爭力 |
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我們國產車的部分我想這個國內我們可能會鼓勵太舊換新 |
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因為台灣的這個超過20年的車有200萬台所以我們鼓勵他因為基於這個節能減碳所以我們也希望他能夠換一些這個耗能比較輕的車由國內的這些廠商他們來生產所以大概200萬台車可以在這幾年裡面讓他去轉型不是啊 那你怎麼害羞煥心你有什麼政策上面的誘因啊 |
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我們這個可能會調降這個貨物稅 |
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那你要問財政部這個不是只有你說我們意思就是說我跟這個委員你們有跟財政部有討論過了嗎我們當然是業者的意願確定了我們才會做這個財政部的溝通那有跟財政部先溝通過這個貨物稅的問題嗎這個部分在我們所謂的這個討論的過程裡面都有提過了那財政部的財政部的這個財政部啦因為我自己在財委會財政部只要跟他講說要降稅他就跟你拼命 |
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不过这个我想我们会基于国人的企业发展的这样的一个过程我想财政部应该会支持好那我再请问一下一个是这个法规的问题就是说现在我们的这个车子我们是采用这一个欧洲的这个检验的一个标准那如果说美国车子进来的话那怎么去做这一个标准的一个做一个调整他还是要通过我们的车车中心的检验 |
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對啊 但是規格不一樣啊 它是一個是美國的 一個是我們是採用歐洲的啊 是不一樣的啊可以做correlation什麼意思可以做一些這個規格上面的一個比照現在有在處理這一塊嗎現在還沒有看到沒有 但是美國車是有可能有需求我們就會來一定會有這個需求啊 因為接下來就是美國車會進來啦 |
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但是我跟委員報告就是我們所了解就是數量款式都會增加市場上面大概你講的是美國牌的品牌的大車但我們所了解的有很多美國車會進來的倒是這個所謂日系韓系在美國製造的車 |
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那規格是一樣的嗎規格應該是一樣是一樣嗎是用台灣現在的這個這個歐洲的這個檢驗的規格嗎是嗎署長是嗎署長這個這個我想我們認為應該是啦沒有我一樣署長這個這個署長比較這個可能不是太嚴重的問題沒有我問一下署長那署長是嗎 |
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因為美國車以前就都已經有進來的 並不是這次開放才進來的那以前數量不多嘛那現在數量如果一下增加的話如果說需要進行一些法規的調適的話可能我們還要再跟交通部這邊再討論一下所以也都還沒有進行就對了這個你們可能也要開始要做進行因為我覺得這個是大概是在兩三個月大概就會確定的事情那我最後再問一下部長就是說因為如果 |
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你開放這個美國車關稅是零的話那其他的其他的歐洲的車他會不會比照要求要辦理我們跟美國的談判就台灣跟美國之間的關稅關係對啊那他就說那美國車就降了那基於這一個這一個比如說WTO的精神這個不能獨厚美國他其他車也要降其他這個歐洲進口車也要降會不會 |
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理論上這個應該會有這樣的一個要求啦對啊但是我們的原則現在還是只跟美國談是啊 那我是說因為現在美國當然是跟美國談那我是說會不會有其他的這個歐洲的那邊的車子也會有要求也會有相同的這個一些要求啊據WTO他們可能會要求但是我們現在那我們有做什麼樣的因應嗎我們還要再評論啦對啊 這個都是近這兩個月會發生的事情耶 |
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对但是因为我们现在在看就是看这个未来的变化因为这一系数变跟美国谈现在还没有谈定那其他的国家跟美国很多还是没有谈定所以没有谈定的过程里面这个变数太多了 |
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所以我們現在先針對美國這個先造成的影響以後其他的部分是穩定的可是你們要去預想啊就是說我剛才講那幾個那應該都是要去預想就是說好像關稅就是有可能是零那如果關稅零的話那對台灣的這個國產車業者會造成怎麼樣的影響那我剛才講的就是說那有一些比較關鍵的一些一些領主線要進來那這個關稅是不是要做調整那或是說這一個你剛才講的你希望說鼓勵 |
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台湾的这个车子能够车主能够太旧换新然后除了这个货物税上面给予一些减免之外还有什么要去做的然后不然的话对于台湾的这些这个国产吃的这些厂商来讲做零件的厂商来讲会受到很大影响接下来就是会变成失业的人口了这个不是就是一连串会延续发生的吗是 谢谢委员知道我们都会依据国际食物跟规定来办理 |
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我的意思是說 雖然談判在進行當中但是因為現在已經快八月底了我覺得大概在兩個月大概會確定也不可能一直懸在那邊沒辦法確定但是汽車關稅的談判一定是其中一個沒有辦法把我們的關稅談好的其中一個蠻重要的因素在所以這個東西搞不好已經談好了也不一定 |
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這個對業者來講當然是希望說能夠買到便宜的車但是卡在那邊不上不下你如果早點決定了其實業者跟這個買車的人他們都有一個盤算在那邊現在對業者來講其實最擔心就是你懸而不決一直卡在那邊其實對業者來講才是一個最大的一個心理或是經濟上面的一個負擔謝謝是 謝謝委員好 謝謝現在請賴世保委員做詢答 |