| IVOD_ID |
163563 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163563 |
| 日期 |
2025-08-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-08-20T09:11:18+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-08-20T09:22:19+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:01 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3feaef107a98f0c94d57274d0c66bec70ed9bbdce0c549622d759ce15701171e6a2d8103b2bcc79e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱議瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:11:18 - 09:22:19 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-08-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長就「協助中小企業災後復原辦理情況」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席我請一下部長郭部長委員長 |
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部长早部长我想经历过丹纳斯台风跟728的豪雨对您来讲应该也是心情像喜三温暖这应该是您有史以来第一次有这样的机会实际进入到灾区实际去勘灾了解到天灾对于整体环境所受到的影响您个人有什么看法 |
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就你剛剛的報告其實就是很數據上面政府現在應該要補助多少補助多少但是我想您在經濟部的這個位置上面其實看到這樣的一個風災災後政府有很多的重建工作要做其實不是只是現在的這些paperwork您覺得就現行的台灣的整體 |
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在面对到这样子的一个巨大的天灾的时候你觉得经济部有什么可以再多做一些的或者是说我们现在的整体的建设上有什么不足的是 报告员我想人逆己逆我多次到灾区去跟着总统或者院长我们多次去跟着他们去访视这整个灾区我大概应该有 |
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這一個多月以來應該有15次以上到災區去訪視我們看了這一次的這個災情確實是非常非常的嚴重所以我一直請我們經濟部的同仁在我們的責任範圍裡面要用最快的速度 |
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然后去帮忙把这个灾区能够复建起来比如说我们现在前进办公室成立以后经济部对于这个复建的部分 |
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我們的這個水利署跟台水公司我們負責的責任區我們都是最快的速度大家都用同理心來協助處理我們面對的這個問題好 部長來先讓您講到這裡你講到災後復健的部分那我就先來跟您討論一下災後復健的部分 |
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當然今天主席排定的議程是討論中小企業不過因為在這一次的丹納斯風災跟728的豪雨其實在高雄的地區受災最嚴重是在山區這些就是我們您所謂的災後復建這是路斷掉了橋斷掉了那經濟部水利署或者是說公路總局花了非常多的時間而且非常快速的 |
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幾天幾夜都沒有睡覺在搶救這些道路但是相對來講其實你也可以看到這是很脆弱的一環那講到補償你講中小企業的補償我就是要跟您討論山區這一次受災嚴重但是山區沒有中小企業 |
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山区的观光受到了非常大的影响山区的比如说我们的这些小吃部这些零售业者这个农产加工品等等他们其实都受到了相当大的影响但是目前这样看起来并不符合在我们所谓的中小企业的这一些补助里头 |
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那這些要怎麼辦你們未來在經濟部跟跨部會比如說跟這個觀光署或者是跟其他的單位有沒有這樣的跨部會的災後的這些補救的措施或者是說要等到我們的這個特別預算通過之後才能來做這一方面我們院長有指示就是說不用等到這個特別預算過後才來處理這個救災的事情 |
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我們會用我們現在有的這個預算範圍裡面趕快先去做因為救災最重要所以在您剛所提的這個地區我們是有這個服務業的協助措施的 |
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他是属于服务业的一部分我们大概分成服务业服务业你协助他什么哪一方面比如说他是店家他是店家我们就是援助他每一家我们会先给他一万块钱然后协助他做铁卷门招牌摊牌展示架你只要是在受灾地区的全部都可以吗他没有税籍登记没有什么登记的你只要是在灾后地区的全部都可以摊饭我们会把它列为摊饭 |
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好那有這些有開始做了嗎現在是開始做已經開始在盤點了是不是應該是在盤點而已吧應該我還沒有聽到有任何已經開始受到我們是盤點透過當地的管理機構先盤點但是我們現在把比較嚴重的地方處理 |
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我知道部长当然你要先去处理很多的中小企业因为很多的我们的这个台湾的中小企业占了八成那就业人口其实非常多也是在这些中小企业里头包括嘉义台南其实很多的中小企业受损当然你们要去做这些事情那我现在要跟您谈的是在高雄的这些山区的相对剥夺感是比较大的那他们除了道路受损以外其实电力的中断电力的脆弱 |
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我想这个也是您应该要非常重视是 报告委员在未来我们会结合电力的部分我们会优先因为这三区负电比较慢所以我们会先把发电机送过去 |
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所以未來就是只要有風災就是設置發電機馬上就到這個發電機就會前置作業先到發電機或者是儲能櫃等等我們都會先做這個其實在去年山陀兒的時候曾文森董事長在這邊也特別也提過我也同樣質詢過這個問題也同樣提過這件事情 |
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但是很顯然的這一次應該也沒有因應到也沒有去想到說這個風災會這麼嚴重這個水災會這麼嚴重但是我比較想要再談的就是說我們所謂的電網韌性計畫我覺得台灣的整體電網其實是相對脆弱一個颱風來去年這個是在高雄 |
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電線桿倒一排今年是在嘉義跟台南整個電線桿倒一排超過一個禮拜以上的停電所有的台電工程人員不眠不休的搶救甚至還造成人命的傷亡但是這個電網電纜地下化的這個政策我們從三年前開始就說要花5645億去做電網韌性計畫 |
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那到底開始做了沒 做了哪些那你們要優先去盤點你們現在說要去盤點一些優先的地區這些優先的地區包括哪些地方是要做優先的地區有沒有去做這一方面的盤點 |
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現在開始在做這一方面現在才開始要做現在具體的因為當初您剛才所指導的這個五千多億的這個是全國的是全國的他分十年做嘛這過去提出來的五千多億沒有分十年你們這不是分十年的計畫嗎我們現在要縮短現在要縮短我們沒有辦法等到十年是所以我們現在把它縮短到這個總統的指示到2028年2028年所以三年內要完成對 |
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三年內要完成台電有這樣的量能或者是說台電有足夠的足夠的經費可以來做這件事情嗎就我們大家來努力我當然希望你們能夠努力啦但能不能給我一個比較確切比如說你們現在盤點出來哪些地方會是優先報告委員我們可以把這個盤點表跟時程表送送給您好 |
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那預算呢台電還有錢嗎5645億你如果分成三年的話一年要將近 |
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547.093 |
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一千五百 一千六百億台電有錢嗎要編列啦要來編列這個預算不是編列而已啦保電池你現在不只是編列而已不是你編列這個預算你台電就沒錢了你反而也不可以撥補一千億給你你台電怎麼有錢 還要繼續做這個我們現在先把這個所謂太陽能光電太陽能光電的地區然後先支援附近的這個鄉鎮 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
550.914 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
574.242 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
這個是我們一個新的智慧電網因為台電太陽能光電的這個跟我講的電纜地下化是有相關的嗎跟電纜地下化沒有相關對啊我現在是跟你講電纜地下化但是我們要讓大家有電可以用所以我們就是光電第二天太陽出來以後它就能夠產生電所以我們就會把它接到那個變電所然後來供給他們的用電這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
575.782 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
601.168 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
部長我覺得台電其實應該要整體再去做更快速的這些盤點到底你的哪一些區域是優先的是工業區要優先呢還是臨海的這些比較容易受到損害的要做優先呢有一個很重要的例子當初蘇貞昌院長在做平和公路的電纜地下化的時候被罵到臭頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
602.435 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
625.917 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
被罵到臭頭但是現在你看經歷了過去年跟今年平和公路一帶沒有任何停電所以被罵不是壞事你們要能夠耐得住撐得住這個壓力做對的事情堅持做對的事情要能夠撐得住這個壓力那當然我們要給台電最多最多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
626.949 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
656.078 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
支持跟協助啊 沒電的時候大家都會一直說台電怎麼那麼快可是真的台電需要經費的時候大家又不肯給又說什麼台電很有錢啊台電不需要這個經費啦我覺得這個是沒道理的所以部長我期待就是說台電當然要加緊腳步去做電纜地下化的整體這些電網韌性的政策要趕快加緊腳步去做那對於預算的爭取其實台電也要據理力爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
657.025 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
658.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
好不好好好謝謝謝謝委員好 |