| IVOD_ID |
163556 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163556 |
| 日期 |
2025-08-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第25次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
25 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第25次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-08-19T15:33:43+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-08-19T15:49:14+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:31 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/906c3280ae286f1130c6ab993013bf6418ad07c9952a2a53c376a4f2be5d241c42ffa54afed2a8c25ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳亭妃 |
| 委員發言時間 |
15:33:43 - 15:49:14 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-08-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第25次會議（事由：一、行政院院長提出「新世代打擊詐欺策略行動綱領2.0執行成效」專案報告並備質詢（8月15日）。二、行政院院長提出「全額撥付114年度對地方政府之一般性補助款及原住民族地區基本設施維持費等相關事宜」專案報告並備質詢（8月19日）。） |
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謝謝院長 我們是不是請卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備選 |
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陳委員好院長我剛剛聽了很多委員的質詢我發現大家好像都失憶了就是說為什麼我們會刪一般性補助款行政院為什麼會刪為什麼 |
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我們是卓山一般性補助館25%左右因為整個中央政府總預算在今年的審查過程當中被刪減2076億其中要我們自行刪減636億行政院已經無法在1439億之外再自行刪減636億所以我們採刑是讓地方跟中央共同度過這個難關所以用這樣平均分配的方式 |
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所以是因為國民黨在野黨刪了我們行政院的預算還要我們自行調整我們已經沒有辦法再調整了所以不得不我們也很反抗啊因為所有的縣市都有不論是國民黨執政的民進黨執政的全部都刪台南市被刪了51億 |
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我告訴你這五十億對我們台南來講有多大的困難 |
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我們在這當中我們目前必須控管在各單位30%而且人員預缺不補現在人非常重要沒有人怎麼做事我們卻必須控管預缺不補還有沒有發包的工程農水路重不重要很重要啊還有我們區域排水整治改善工程重不重要很重要 |
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現在極端氣候水對我們來講治水非常重要還有我們的新闢道路全民運動館老舊工業區的更改這個更改工程還有市場新整建的工程等等這些都暫緩不發包這是黃偉哲市長直接對外說明因為我們被刪減了五十億 |
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我想對於每一個縣市都一樣還有我們活動的補助先控管40%甚至其他有可能受到重大影響的因為我們要配合款所以有可能是鐵路地下化還有台南捷運南線等等這些對於台南非常重大非常重大 |
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所以為什麼現在大家本末倒置為什麼不先說因才有這個國所以我們現在行政院也做了補救我們再追加預算要把這636億補回來對不對那就看在野黨的態度你們是在打真球還是打假球 |
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你們口口聲聲說為了各縣市的地方建設這個一般補助款不能刪把行政院罵到臭頭那行政院現在已經要把追加追回來那就看你在野黨的態度啊我覺得如果今天大家認為這很重要我認為很重要我全力支持 |
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謝謝委員 我也希望大院能夠通力來支持這樣的最佳預算我們就能夠全速如期的讓地方不會發生這樣的困窘而且速度越快 根本不用省啊請我們韓院長 朝野協商因為我們上個禮拜送進來了嘛請朝野協商趕快開會討論協商處理 |
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有什麼問題很快就可以處理啊韓院長召集的這幾次協商效率跟內容都相當的好我們認為這是一個良好的互動模式對嘛所以我們這一次的追加預算也可以比照辦理啊根本不用再進入到審查因為這個真的是及時雨在今年今年現在已經八月是不是如果再拖下去可能我們救不了及時雨 |
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所以院長我要拜託兩位院長卓院長還有韓院長我們拜託韓院長是不是盡快召開草野協商大家如果認為一般補助款很重要 |
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那拜託大家摒棄所有的成見為了我們這個國家好為了地方的建設好就把636億趕快通過我相信這才是我們台灣人民之福所以拜託韓院長拜託 |
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也拜託卓院長我們會盡快完成行政院內部的程序然後送交大院來審議我也知道韓院長已經有預定了相當好的時間要進行各項的協商預計下禮拜我們會有進一步的進展所以真的要拜託兩位院長這個對我們 |
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台南太重要了因為對行政院來講各部會發生的困難跟剛剛委員所說的台南市我們有更多行政院院本部更多我們十二三億的預算甚至還有五億是被凍結住的我覺得今天沒有錢就沒辦法做事了台南市災區 |
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我們看到每個人的一個災況真的內心充滿一些無奈所以我們風災特別條例我們就用協商的方式讓他趕快通過所以我們就有這一個所謂的風災特別條例可以有600億的特別預算來協助我們這些災區所以這就是很好的一個典範所以我們希望這個一般補助款也可以比照辦理 |
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那我也要另外再問院長其實在這一次風災的特別條例有一個很重要的裡面有我們的一些環境設施的一個處理所以院長你知道這一次台南石棉瓦的影響非常的大是 |
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但是現在必須跟院長報告石棉瓦的部分我們的災區住戶家戶有處理然後畜牧場有處理可是現在我們的工廠是沒處理的可是工廠這一次我們補助非常少而且在我們石棉瓦的處理 |
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也沒有任何的幫助與協助這個院長我真的要替我們所有台南的鄉親請命一下石棉瓦是有毒而且不好處理如果沒有我們政府全權來處理可能會造成二次傷害 |
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報告委員這是我們幾個預算當中有關於石棉瓦的處理總合加起來應該有13億那據環境部所稱這13億他應該可以就目前看到的問題不可能全部啦因為太多了目前看到問題來解決就在災區其實我們就設限在災區其實重點是我們要怎麼協助他們因為石棉瓦非常的特別 |
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他是有毒而且過去我們要求他們要處理大家沒辦法處理而且處理的積極度不高剛好在這一次風災不得不處理的狀態之下我們鼓勵大家那我們要鼓勵大家就是政府要帶頭來協助大家 |
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所以這個部分再拜託從我們的家戶再到我們的畜牧再到我們的工廠中小企業災區的部分真正毀損的因為他必須要報災情所以真的有災情依照這個災情去做相對處理這個要拜託院長有環境部已經有核定相關的預算會來逐步來就目前看到的問題來解決 |
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然後另外一個部分就是我們這一次台南市我們的環保局為了處理這一次的風災整個處理廢棄物我們的機具都是用勞過多了你懂我的意思嗎已經炒到壞了 |
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所以我覺得是不是可以在這個部分我們環境部可以協助來補助我們這些設備就是我們這些機具沒機具你沒辦法處理 有人也沒辦法所以這個部分也請我們院長來從旁協助跟我們環境部提醒一下我們真的是 已經都炒得比較香了大家相信人間沒機具是沒辦法的所以這個部分再拜託 |
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我請相關部會來維持各縣市應該有的基本能力再拜託那院長還有另外一個就是一萬塊的部分其實我們現在已經送了修正草案過來對不對那修正草案這裡面其實有三點比較不同的跟我們的三讀我們必須修正的就是強化電力系統這個一定要 |
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這台電是在毀損太多了已經超越原來的電纜韌性的各個工作範圍跟預算我們真的要拜託所有在野黨的朋友你如果沒有去看到災區請你去災區看一下你可以看到整個電條多了了這個如果沒有從韌性再加強沒有給台電一個力量 |
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他沒有辦法加強我們的韌性所以這個是我們在修法我們的特別條例韌性特別條例裡面的修法之一第二個就是把我們的修法因為一萬塊的部分然後把他的金額上限提高到5900億元我們三讀是5400億元我們現在是5900億元所以為什麼會多這些數額 |
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院長為什麼會多這些數就是電力的部分增加200億那我們預備第二期如果有需要之後我們再提出第二期的特別預算200億另外就是普發現金還是不夠我們增加了10億所以這是有所本嘛在這個低收中低收入的弱勢族群我們增加了40億 |
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所以這是有所本嘛因為我們就是在低收入戶跟中低收入戶的部分我們多一萬元對不對我們計算的方式不是一萬是逐月或是怎麼樣是逐月好那就是在中低收入或低收入我們多了40億所以我們多了這些錢是有所本的 |
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不是突然之间蹦上去是有所本的而且我还看到你一条我们原本的三组条例是说10月31号可是这里面你们所修正的是说如果这个特别条例特别预算公布之后的一个月内你们就要开始执行发放作业对不对如果我们赶快一样拜托韩院长 |
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這個都要拜託你趕快召集朝野協商趕快讓他通過不要再有政治考量就是趕快通過那麼我覺得會比10月31號還快10月31號執行完畢那個有困難人民什麼時候來領取或者什麼程序 |
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只要我們一開始就給人民有充分而且一定保障權利的時間沒錯 就是發放的那個點一定會在10月31日以前嘛如果韓院長趕快召集朝野協商趕快訂案趕快我們一個月內就會開始執行發放對不對那麼就是七個月因為本來就有我要領跟不要領那是人民的意願嘛你不能逼他說你沒來領 |
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我要怎麼樣不行嘛所以我們定了七個月內要發放完畢嘛這是一個人性嘛對不對但是我們非常負責任的是如果特別條例通過了我就是一個月內開始執行發放對不對所以現在我們可以有把握的時間點 |
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所以時間這個特別條例 越早修正完成那我相信我們可以讓人民越快能夠領到這一萬元然後低收入戶跟中低收入戶會有額外的一個處理方式 對不對 |
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這個時間點也是財政部來跟我說明他們說照過去的經驗他們已經事先可以提早做一些準備工作了所以這個部分也是要拜託韓院長趕快召集朝野協商這個沒有爭議呀這哪有爭議是電力有爭議嗎拜託來我們再去看一下倒了2000多支的電感 |
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你看了你一定不可能擋預算再來就是我們的預算的部分都是有鎖本對不對 增加的這個幅度都是有鎖本的經濟弱勢者以及我們預留的第二期第二期如果沒有用到那就為大家省了200億如果真的有需要我們就馬上提出按預算程序來辦理所以這都有鎖本所以我覺得無論是剛剛的 |
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追加預算還是我們的特別條例任性特別條例的修正我覺得這兩個案子都沒有爭議趕快韓院長召集朝野協商用最快速的速度通過之後讓人民有感這才是最重要的而不要再政治口水政治鬥爭我覺得這個對人民一點幫助都沒有 |
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院長你認為呢我們共同謝謝韓院長韓院長 拜託拜託你我們的希望在你身上請你召集朝野協商 一般補助還有我們的任性特別條例請你趕快協商 趕快通過我們就可以讓所有台灣人民感受到我們政府的力量好不好我覺得我越來越重要了 謝謝 |
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沒有 院長本來就很重要了啊好不好 趕快朝野協商我們真的要拜託韓院長謝謝 謝謝卓院長 謝謝謝謝陳委員 謝謝韓院長謝謝卓院長備詢 謝謝 |