| IVOD_ID |
163554 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163554 |
| 日期 |
2025-08-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第25次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
25 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第25次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-08-19T15:02:22+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-08-19T15:17:55+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:33 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/906c3280ae286f11c3affdb7a3ba333118ad07c9952a2a53c376a4f2be5d241ccb8972f08e7de1aa5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
15:02:22 - 15:17:55 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-08-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第25次會議（事由：一、行政院院長提出「新世代打擊詐欺策略行動綱領2.0執行成效」專案報告並備質詢（8月15日）。二、行政院院長提出「全額撥付114年度對地方政府之一般性補助款及原住民族地區基本設施維持費等相關事宜」專案報告並備質詢（8月19日）。） |
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韓院長有請卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢卓院長 辛苦了你好嗎的意思我們今天談這個 |
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114年度跟總預算的審查之後所涉及的今天的議題所以我們還是要回顧一下這個114年度總預算審查的一個情形也作為因為下禮拜很重要的追加預算的審查都會跟這個114年度總預算當初 |
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立法院在韓國瑜院長這個召集朝野協商的時候的一個狀況我們看這個當初這個在今年1月15號16號甚至韓國瑜院長說如果兩天不夠禮拜六禮拜天還可以加開但是在這個過程當中 |
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就是非常非常的不順利幾乎應該是完全沒有審正式去審這個114年度的總預算因為我過去當公務員很久也常來立法院也當了好幾年的立法委員這個 |
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立法院院長主持朝野協商就是怎麼樣把這個大家的意見能夠做一個溝通說明讓行政院相關的部會做很好的說明之後能夠調整這個刪減的額度這個是一個很重要的一個過程但是這一次 |
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今年的一月中旬卻沒辦法完成這樣的一個情況甚至我們韓國瑜院長甚至在預算三讀通過之後還召開了這個茶葉協商也請這個立法行政院來說明當韓院長請這個我們的 |
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行政院秘書長來說明的時候我們柯總召竟然不讓他說明所以就這樣產生這樣的一個問題才會造成現在的一個狀況原來後來之後才發現原來是去年1月13號就定調為了要罷免原來總預算的審查成為一個罷免的一個素材之一 |
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所以這個部分是我們 我之所以要去回顧這個部分因為下禮拜就要 又要急診對立法院來講 對不對我們要刪這個 你要追加預算所以我們要運用智慧 要多溝通 多協調這個部分是一個 先回顧 |
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如果誠如鄭委員所說的那個場景我們發覺我們應該發覺近兩個禮拜以來立法院的協商氣氛是好的是有進展的那我們就要努力來維持這樣好的狀況我們把它扭轉回來這也就是我說的我們盡量來調整行政立法兩院互動的模式我也很樂意看到這樣的一個進步 |
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這個反正都溝通了就行政部門而言了過去我當無論是當處長或是常務副主委常常到各個委員的辦公室去溝通說明當然院長不需要但是怎麼樣去跟各黨團都溝通都說明這是一個必要的好我們看這個原住民族第七基本設施維持費這個是今天的這個 |
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報告的一個案子之一我們看這個今天院長的報告裡面也提到全額撥付這個撥付全額撥付我們回顧一下這個在民國89年520陳水扁總統上任之後第一任的主任委員Yuhani主任委員在民國90年的期間 |
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山地鄉 沿鄉的鄉長到台北來陳情陳情什麼呢 是因為有部分的縣長克扣了這個統籌應該要分給要撥給這個鄉 山地鄉的這些經費所以他們來陳情當時的尤哈尼主任委員請我去協調行政院主計總署去協調之後同意 |
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從91年度開始由嚴明會來編列這個經費而這樣的一個事情的宣布我們就安排正好那一年民國90年張俊雄院長要去致辭有關我們嚴明會所辦的全國原住民族行政會議在那個場合宣布由嚴明會每年編列5億4千6百萬元 |
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給我們的延鄉作為這預算書這是91年度的預算書為什麼要特別把預算書寫出來呢就是在呈現預算書的說明寫得很清楚基本財政收支差短就是要補助延鄉的基本財政收支差短所以這個是一個對延鄉來講是一個很重要的一個一筆經費 |
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所以我們很遺憾的就是說這個怎麼會因為總預算認為被刪了然後我們演兵會的預算我們並沒有刪這筆經費那演兵會竟然在今年的2月27號當然他奉一定是奉行政院的指示或是主計總署的指示要去處理所以扣減了百分之五十本期 |
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從3月24號 3月25號4月14號 5月15 5月286月4號 6月17 6月24不斷的質詢協調發文尤其是我們組計長我質詢了好幾次 |
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主計總署發文的說明是說因為114年度立法院審查的時候刪減通案刪減之後要自行調整636億636億所以這個也被牽連到所以我就質詢了質詢主計長我說一般性補助款被刪減的 |
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被行政院自行刪減的636億再加上基本設施維持費3億2千就是639億多了那不超過了嗎超越刪減總數所以行政院的主席總署很快的就請延明會所以延明會在6月24號就發文 |
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而定撥付這個原來被扣留的被扣減的這個三億兩千萬我之所以要提這個事情已經解決的事情為什麼要提我的意思是說 園民會也要堅持要去跟主計總署說明要去行政院說明這個是為了原鄉的財政收支的差短 |
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所以這個不應該去刪減扣減這個部分只做一個這樣的一個 |
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案例讓我們嚴明會但是如果我們從這個你的今天行政院的報告裡面到了8月才撥那麼少真的是要加快的撥款 可以嗎OK 跟委員報告我們就只是動靜不是把它扣起來第二個就是說我們2月27號就核定到現在我們55個公所還有10個公所還沒有報來 |
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鄉長反映的就是沒有了這個錢沒有了這個錢因為整個氛圍就是這樣好不好所以這個部分他們誤會因為到現在我們也全部都核定還有只有目前第二期也只有十個鄉公所送完而已我們會趕快來請公所趕快來提報接下來還是要請主計長 |
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我們今天談的這個114年度地方政府制一般性補助款這個行政院這個5月16號的公文這個修正了這個補助地方一般性補助款的額度總共 |
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636億平均27.3%對地方來說是一個很大的一個困難那事實上如果我們看這個中央對直轄市及縣市政府補助辦法這個第一條法律的授權是財政收支劃分法還有地方制度法的一個授權訂定的第二條 |
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正式編制警政消防人員操刑加班費需要從這邊來支應第二條第三項第三目依國民年金法農民健康保險條例老年農民福利津貼暫行條例集中低收入戶老人生活津貼發起辦法等相關法規因為在這些法規裡面 |
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有明定中央要編多少的比例地方要編多少的比例從這個這條條文就可以證明他是法律義務支出法律義務支出這個第三條第一項也是這樣對針對教育社會福利的一個支出行政院 |
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發文給立法院針對114年度總預算送來的時候在7年的8月底送來的時候行政院主計總署的明細表也特別列舉依法例義務支出的明細表是包含了一般性的補助款這個是非常的明確我們看民進黨1月21號的臉書 |
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民進黨1月21號的臉書也認證了立法院沒有刪減一般性不足他也認定了這個是中央法定的支出所以我們這樣子來看這個案子最主要就是要談的是什麼這個就是我們要回顧為什麼剛才要回顧就是沒有溝通 |
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本來可以溝通的幾十年來立法院在審查總預算已經有這個慣例了經過溝通之後都不會那麼硬都是可以溝通的我再一次的因為我沒有機會溝通下禮拜很重要 |
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下禮拜很重要所以這個部分無論是針對追加預算到底哪些應該是適合追加到底應該就立法院的立場就行政院的立場怎麼去這是一個我們韓國瑜院長也要傷腦筋的地方所以大家都要傷腦筋來去解決這樣的一個問題所以 |
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但再怎麼樣都要與人民的福祉最為優先的一個考量好 我們這個現在剩下一分鐘多的我就還是要談一下我們現在最重要就原住民族而言或平埔原住民而言現在目前最重要的就是這個 |
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平埔原住民族群身份法我一直在拜託這個這個內政委員會的召委也排了 也開了 也協調了剩下還要排這個這個協商黨防協商這個日期已經很迫切因為按照司法院的憲法法庭的判決 |
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直到10月大家都知道9月10月總諮詢也不會有法案的審查所以下禮拜以前是很重要但是第一個預算要先編最起碼人數是多少呢按照內支部的估算是98萬但是一開始登記的話可能不會那麼多就以台南來講 |
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他們都已經登記囉 台南啊在復政事務所都登記囉在賴總統當市長的時候就開始登記了就五千多人了所以我們延民會曾主委的預估是今年年底以前會有失望預算要編列要請主席長要請院長那個支持因為預算的編列通常按照時程的話就是這個禮拜 |
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就要因為按照規定就是8月底已經要送到立法院所以這個部分務必要去支持 好不好好 謝謝鄭天才委員的資訊 |