| IVOD_ID |
163546 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163546 |
| 日期 |
2025-08-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第25次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
25 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第25次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-08-19T09:48:41+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-08-19T10:04:45+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:16:04 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/906c3280ae286f11bc0d5bd87f0687cf18ad07c9952a2a536736ce1c3e94b6c6106c04e58201a3ad5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
傅崐萁 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:48:41 - 10:04:45 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-08-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第25次會議（事由：一、行政院院長提出「新世代打擊詐欺策略行動綱領2.0執行成效」專案報告並備質詢（8月15日）。二、行政院院長提出「全額撥付114年度對地方政府之一般性補助款及原住民族地區基本設施維持費等相關事宜」專案報告並備質詢（8月19日）。） |
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請富坤齊委員質詢黃國昌委員請準備院長 主席這個 拜託一下這個 |
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可以跟資訊師調整一下未來兩個monitor都可以看的話雙方都會比較清楚秀出來的資料我也只看單邊這問題講了已經講一年半了謝謝來我們請這個卓榮泰卓院長麻煩請卓院長備詢 |
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副委員好 院長好這個卓院長經過了這一段時間全國國人的民意已經清楚的在表達希望卓榮泰卓院長這已經是立法院的第三個會期本屆的第三個會期我希望你能夠跳脫同溫層 |
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不要再被同溫層一直不斷的麻醉麻醉麻醉這是離人民很遠的所有地方政府對這636億的打擊是很沉重的不要再讓自己的同溫層尤其在立法院這是神聖的國會殿堂如果你持續的repeat的 |
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不斷的聽魔英穿腦的給自己麻痺的童文成你會聽不到人民的聲音就如同上個禮拜五本席在這裡請教打炸的事件越打越炸去年2024年這2020年 |
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八倍十倍成長的詐騙 全國今年光上半年就已經跟去年是達標了在這種情況之下竟然法務部長還在這裡硬吹硬擠啊說我們資料不對 |
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都是打炸儀錶板出來的資料不是不對 是不同統計方式不同再過來本席上個禮拜五也秀出監察院給你看的資料跟本席的資料是一樣的所以不要在這裡再來這裡做無謂的爭執本席所請教你的每一件都把數據拿出來所以不要在這裡動嘴 |
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院長你是有高度的但是不要讓你的下屬來模擬你這會離人民越來越遙遠針對今天這個636億的統三當然院長提出了追加感謝會支持感謝委員但是我們 |
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還是要檢討任何事情都可以檢討任何聲音院長都要聽到這個才是民主的國會您宣布統三地方25%的統籌分配款造成今年幾幾乎一年的延宕不是八個月九個月的延宕因為地方政府 |
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伴追家的伴追家放棄計畫的放棄計畫這幾幾乎讓地方政府你陷入一個空轉這影響層面有多大卓院長 本席相信啊你是很善良的但是呢到底誰給你的建議我希望院長要好好去思考 |
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為什麼可以這樣做怎麼能這樣做看看一般性補助款刪除各縣市25%這包括了學校的營運營養午餐老人照顧育兒津貼道路水利交通設施災害救助或重建以及各種文化的推展觀光 |
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這個對人民的影響有多大那個主計長請回本席請你來本席今天是就教院長好不好就如同民進黨自己講的嘛院長難得來這裡對不對你有什麼事可以到委員會去講好不好你們這壞習慣以後不要上來本席沒有請你們上來不要一個一個跑上來所以我今天要跟院長來大家開誠布公來探討來探討 |
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我們再看看民進黨怎麼說這個是民進黨直接公開認證直接公開認證這是當時啊在講所謂藍白三預算他都講得很清楚這張表是民進黨中央黨部做的中央法定支出一般性補助法定支出2501億 |
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地方型補助2911億人民金融自己都講我們沒有刪那這個怎麼可以在所謂的統三的調整當中去把它刪了百分之二十五真的不應該來 再來所以啊因為刪了地方百分之二十五的一般性補助款變成今年地方自治只能做九個月 |
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三個月不見了地方的議會完全沒有像立法院這麼靈活所以這些整個計畫跟預算的調整天下大亂天下大亂再來齁我們以台中市政府為例齁在去年主計總署給各縣市政府8月30號就給了 |
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院長你可以看到公文發的這麼清楚今年的一般性補助款118億然後竟然把它刪掉了32.4億 刪的將近29%多請問台中市政府要怎麼執政這個是中央地方政府跟政府之間長期的信賴保護原則 |
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信賴保護原則一般人如你的報告講的阿的公文裡面有講中央要經過國會通過如果一般性輔助有被刪減的話可以對地方做調整 對不起國會沒有對一般性輔助有任何的刪減這跟你今天到本院的報告又不一樣 |
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院長表達一下意見好國會只要求行政院對636億自行調整所以自行調整行政院就執行的項目內容我們做最積極的考量做最必要的考量在所謂的一般性補助款當中有一筆錢叫做爭域裁員爭域裁員是說該年度 |
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直轄市跟縣市有成長的成長率的如果沒有達到的時候我們用爭域財源來補給他也就是說這個就是本來是幫助他提高的這筆錢有990億其實當初我們認為這筆錢即使沒有的話930億當中刪掉636億一樣是足以來讓地方做各種的施政 |
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所以我們也是請地方政府仿照立法院要求行政院你可以自行去調整百分之二十五議長 您又還在同溫層剛剛苦口苦口內容在這裡啊很良善的在跟您溝通本席再說一次去年的八月三十一號就已經告訴各縣市政府要補助給地方的一般性補助款是多少錢 |
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他們也依照行政院的公文來編列了預算也跟經過各地方議會三讀通過然後今年來實施我們也再一次的把立法院刪除的部分已經很明確的跟民進黨中央黨部所做的圖卡都講得很清楚那個法定支出是不能刪的也講得這麼清楚院長 |
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不要再回去繞圈子 看看齁整個學者都在紅 不可以這樣做有一句話 8月30日那個文當中也提到如果立法院審議結果有所刪減立法院審議結果並沒有刪一般性補助款我們不要在這裡再兜圈子院長 再看一下 |
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對於國家中華民國在台灣這80年來建立的地方制度這個地方的信任院長在未來如果繼續擔任閣揆本席希望好好的修補中央政府跟地方政府的信賴關係我希望你要全力的來做 |
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我也更希望未來任何人擔任院長跟立法院之間就預算審查我們能夠依照憲法跟法律精神來我們都是依照憲法跟法律精神卓院長我其實再給你一個建議你有邀我們去行政院去協商的時候每一件事大家都很圓滿也沒有讓你有事後 |
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受騙上當的感覺每一件我們都依照協商的結果但是比較遺憾的就是你應該更多更多更多跟立法院各黨團來協商這是本席給你非常良善的建議這一次啊 財務法的修法是只是落實憲法的地方自治 |
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從中央的75 地方25改成中央65 地方35因為財務法的修法院長 民進黨講過多少次要修要修包括賴清德總統在擔任行政院長的時候也說要修 |
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那本席跟國民黨團修法完成之後竟然被民進黨從中央到地方全面造謠叫做中共同路人修財政收支劃分法叫中共同路人那如果是這樣的話賴清德總統在擔任行政院長在在野黨擔任市長的時候都是同路人嗎我們看一下齁 |
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報告委員能不能一句話你剛剛那個六十對四十四十當中有省政府的經費唯有修改才劃法否則的話即便樵覆也藍野無名之炊如果總統沒有辦法解決這個事情那我認為台灣不可能進步任何一個胡志明的總統都不應該跟關聯在一起發電的這個發動物放在一起一邊都不一樣一天只說一些話我覺得就是不應該 |
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再看一下這個擔任院長的時候怎麼說的總統跟我從來沒有反對對才華把進行檢討只是你剛剛說的60%跟40的比例那事實當中有11%是當時省政府的業務歸屬地方現在精神是完全歸屬中央所以那個 |
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沒有完全歸屬中央啦 部分歸屬中央啦我們不要爭執這個好不好本席對這裡面都非常的熟認部分歸屬中央 部分歸屬地方所以這個預算本來就應該要調整 |
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所以呢 精神以後所推動台灣的地方自治也是當時的賴市長說要修也是當時的行政院賴院長說要修好不好現在從總統到行政院都沒有去抗拒我們只是希望合理的來討論跟調整我們再看一下左院長的成績單左院長成績單這個 下一頁 |
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這個您賴政府卓內閣是史上第一你總共中華民國在台灣總共從民國37年到114年77年當中行政院的院長提了13次的復議但您當了一年就提出了6次的復議 7次的釋憲 |
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六次的復議 七次的釋憲所以啊而且是拿到史上最多的總預算這個總預算如果不夠我想這一次的追加減 追加預算也讓卓工太卓院長你看到了立法院的態度是很良善的只要國家有需要你提出計畫我們都願意來支持但要合理 |
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不要把一次的立法院本域職責本域職責該做的事情不要再有謠言治國謊言政府主委院長希望把心思全部放在國人身上好不好 |
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大家可以來合作行政院跟所有的收藏一直努力工作縱然我們更深知自我檢討但是這個努力工作的態度是一致的跟各政黨密切合作 好不好謝謝委員好 謝謝傅坤祺委員 |