| IVOD_ID |
163449 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163449 |
| 日期 |
2025-08-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第24次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
24 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第24次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-08-12T11:38:42+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-08-12T11:55:03+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:16:21 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/affd0e2636d87bdfdb708ad33d4b71cfa8bba6e65b10b0a5bc88735d355306b83dd907335e0676765ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴惠員 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:38:42 - 11:55:03 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-08-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第24次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院台灣民眾黨黨團，建請院會作成決議：「邀請行政院院長率同相關部會首長就『新世代打擊詐欺策略行動綱領2.0執行成效』進行專案報告並備質詢。」是否有當？請公決案等13案。（8月8日）二、邀請行政院院長率同相關部會首長列席，提出「丹娜絲颱風及七二八豪雨災後復原重建」專案報告並備質詢。（8月12日）三、8月8日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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會議員委員質詢謝龍介委員請準備好謝謝主席有請院長還有全境指揮所指揮官陳金德麻煩再請卓院長陳政委備詢院長賴委員好辛苦你了謝謝指揮官委員好 |
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我想從七月八號一直到七月九號在台南十五個行政區裡頭受創的非常嚴重這十五個行政區本席有十一個區是在我的選區裡頭 |
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那7月9號我聽到了很多就是沿海區域的里長他們求救的一個電話我要趕過去早上8點多我要趕過去結果那個路是不通的因為電線桿前面的掉下來 |
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我在這裡要謝謝兩位也要謝謝我們所有在這一次搶災的所有行政單位因為有你們其實剛才我聽到很多就是外圍的委員在質問質問了很多是在這個災區發生的前四五天的一個狀況我覺得這個是非常非常的打壓我們 |
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我謝謝陳金德指揮官我跟著他開會我不會算那個次數了在市政府早上開會10點開會下午我們就是每一個區每一個區去跟里長座談謝謝院長你來了八次總統來了五次 |
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其實在這個過程裡頭我們一直在解決問題當我們面臨到了一個120年的這個強大的一個颱風它是真的從你的整個臉這樣子打過來在這次的過程當中我不知道為什麼我這邊有這麼多的一個災民我甚至我自己很自責我不知道我的選區裡頭為什麼有這麼多低收入戶跟中低收入戶有這麼多的一個老房子 |
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其實我們非常的痛可是這個不是我們可以跟大自然做抵抗的所以再一次謝謝你們可是也要針對這個整個過程裡頭我們需要的一個協助那在後的一個重建條例特別條例那編了560億夠不夠本席認為是不夠的 |
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我從八場的一個座談會裡頭三場的一個現勘其實這每一場座談會我是用我們財政委員會從中央再跟地方政府每一個都是局長台南市政府都是局長我們的一個對接然後我們充分的反映災民的一個心聲其實在這個整個座談會裡頭每一場都超過100個 |
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那個公務人員我們坐在那一邊搶災搶險不是站到第一線去 |
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這個唯一的一個標準而已我們必須要做很多內部的一個工作後勤的一個工作所以在這個過程裡頭我們去發現到就是很多的一個不足所以在這裡跟院長跟指揮官做一個災後重建紓困振興這我把它分為七大項這七大項裡頭我想普化現金還有就是黃紅的一個韌性通訊的一個韌性還有校舍老舊還有 |
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這個老屋還有老樹 榮損的一個救助還有我們產業跟企業的一個支持跟三天的一個關關的重建等一下我要請我們的農業部長還有我們的經濟部長 |
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跟著就是說在這裡頭我們在重建裡頭我們需要這兩個單位來協助我們院長我想重建的經費有限中低收入戶的普發現金我建議應該要加碼尤其是在我的選區裡頭才4700個這等於是增加了4700萬我希望就是說 |
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院長可以快速來協助我們這些在弱勢的一個災民普遍面臨到了三大的一個困境他的修繕的支出龐大他的生計中斷了他的災後負擔的風險變高了所以是不是有機會就是說在這個普發現金裡頭增加了這個加碼我們的中低收入戶 |
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每一個區域立委都是受到選民的一個支持那如果像我這個重災區中的重災我剛才跟經濟部長特別去了拜託一些我跟他私下那個拜託的事情他跟我講說不能只有給你啊還是要再給別人啊 |
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一個最嚴重的一個是在家戶病房的一個是普通病房的本座的錢都一樣這樣有道理嗎當然沒有道理啊那個家戶病房是隨時會掛掉的那一般病房也慢慢來有些是慢性病的啊怎麼會是一致性的我當然是不認同就是說院長 |
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不會是一致性的啊這個大家在這個颱風裡頭當然是颱風裡頭大家受創的情形是完全不一樣的我們的污點都掀掉了嘉義縣的房子都不見了怎麼會是一致的呢所以我覺得這個應該有一個標準 |
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因為你是最重要的一個縣長啊所以我在這裡請教農業部長就是說部長在我們台南沿海跟西北地區有很多農田是泡水然後溫王室溫王室它是倒塌的還有就是我們的餘溫這個潰堤這些情形那我們的農民需要很多的資金進入修繕跟護耕的一個洋溢那還有 |
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在普遍我們面臨到了就是說在區公所區公所就是懲判人員他對於整個榮損的一個補助的認知其實是有點錯亂的當然這個是一個滾動式的我們不可能就是說7月9號訂的標準跟7月29號的標準是一樣因為我們一直滾動性的在檢討在討論嘛那希望農業部跟地方加強協調跟整合 |
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我們把這個兩週內就是救助的一個撥款把它放下去有沒有機會還有再特別跟農業部長做一個要求我們北門農會沒有納進災禍補助那個專案的一個承辦窗口這個對我們北門人是非常不公平的來 部長 |
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我先回答剛才您講的那個北門農會的部分那是有關於漁業部分的受理單位那經過我們的就是跟各漁會協調他們是覺得說漁業部分還是由漁會來處理會比較適當那如果說北門農業願意做我想我們會再協調這個部分我想是以人家願意做你應該要給他納進來啊對不對這都是好事啊你這個時候已經虛擬了你還要跟他見面什麼要跟你分情 |
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這個我想每個農會或漁會協助我們都會來處理那因為他們北門的話我想他們願意如果願意的話漁會如果大家都一起努力啦那第二個部分就是有關於救災的部分那相對的我們現在也在協助公所怎麼樣去簡化的理工程 |
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那對於專案補助的話我們更不敢去麻煩公所我們由農會漁會或者是我們本身農糧署的分署來做承辦窗口這樣的話會減少他們的什麼時候撥錢撥錢可能要要根據 |
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那個那個公所本身齁他的勘差完了以後報到縣府 縣府再提供給我我們三天之內一定播我想在這個地方政府要加速因為你炒火要炒前一陣子你到三個月後你再去本地的錢的時候我的農業修繕補助百分之八十你不要讓大家看到吃不到這是我們的一個困難還有我再跟農業部就是說再做一個建議就是說我們農家增 |
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綜合的一個貸款我們每一個農民都可以借一筆40萬的錢這個叫做農家綜合貸款是不是有機會就是說在第二批就是說我們40加40 |
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有沒有機會我希望就是說我們的農會其實是聯合的一個陳情台南市農會跟我們11區的農會他們希望就是說我們農業部提供這樣子的一個協助我覺得合情合理農民在生活上以及在復耕上如果確實有這個需求農業部再來處理 |
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因為利息要省多少 |
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我跟你講部長你只要低於1.9這個就是有意思了我們現在規劃的一定是低於1.9好 低於1.9最好是無息我跟委員順便報告一下他們現在所有的貸款我們都同意他延緩兩年不管是本金還款或是貸款期那這樣的話就會縮減他們的一個金融的一個付款的壓力 |
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615.899 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
642.757 |
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好 謝謝榮業部長那針對的就是說我在請教環境部部長你請回 院長這一次其實我們有一個重要的環境的議題就是實棉瓦實棉瓦其實讓我們整個場域你大概沒有辦法想像就是說這個實棉瓦在我們台南大概有多少的一個面積 |
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644.019 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
655.092 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
現在要整修大概是一萬五噸結果在我們台南就是一萬噸一萬噸是二十個足球場這麼大現在我們才清除不到一成 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
661.639 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
682.717 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
所以這個嚴重的落後可是這個如果我們不處理的話這造成整個環境有毒的壓力是不是可以請院長支持環境部在專案補助7.9億再加碼因為7.9億做不了事情部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
683.457 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
711.342 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
預算上他已經有所增加報告委員 因為那個7.91其實也是委員在第一個禮拜就提醒我的那我們也跟院長報告 院長非常的支持那現在來說的話有加快了 速度有加快那因為台南整個來說的話大概是10萬噸那這次毀了大概1萬噸左右那我們這1萬噸目前的量是可以處理的院長 有沒有辦法跟我們承諾什麼時候把我們的石棉瓦全部清除掉有辦法給我們一個時間嗎 |
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714.656 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
732.359 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
這個其實我們是可以速度很快尤其這個禮拜我們公司協力會有個十年瓦地圖會出來那會加快這個速度當然保障這個民眾因為很多民眾不知道這個狀況我跟你講你如果三個月到六個月可以全部清完的話那實在是非常地了不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
732.799 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
756.209 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
因為你大概沒有辦法想像我們這個地方就是存在了很多的一個石棉瓦就是鐵片英尊的建材他還存在了很多的老房子就是石棉瓦我們是不是靠這個時候可以就是一致性把它完成所以說院長如果三個月到六個月我們把台南的石棉瓦全部清除有沒有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
760.087 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
772.444 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
三個月針對現在已經破掉的有在住的民眾沒有問題但是有一些我發現台南很多我去看了很多都是沒有好幾個人沒有人住的或是產權很多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
773.986 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
780.911 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
如果說你全部都清掉 我會說你有夠厲害你就是我們的菩薩了 真的拜託你拜託你拜託你拜託你拜託你拜託你拜託你拜託你 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
790.197 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
818.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
前四天沒有電沒有環境部長你請回我要數位部跟NCC那這沒有電的時候把我們就是形塑成因為就是說當你嘉義縣經濟部長你要留下來你要留下來我有議題是跟你有相關的因為你的台電你的台電這一次被那個就是大家就是去講說台電那個在這個整個搶救的過程裡頭不利那為什麼不利 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
819.898 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
839.493 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
院長你知道所有的電線都是黑色的對不對所有的電線不管就是說台客塔不管就是說中華電信不管是演傳地方電視台專播都是黑色的那個電線全部都是掛在台電的那個電線桿上面結果這一倒 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
839.853 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
867.292 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
倒下去了以後3700根的電線桿倒下去了以後人家都說是中華電信就是中華電信也說台電所有的兇手都是台電那這台電這個在搶不眠不休的一個搶修的過程當中其實台電已經快速的恢復了恢復了這一個電力所以我要數位部跟NCC你們要去追究這幾個台客大跟那個演傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
868.433 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
885.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
他們為什麼賺了錢他們不投資地下電網還有他們的光線線網在他們的一個合約裡頭你給他們太寬鬆了結果你們就是一直在逼台電那台電所有做的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
886.614 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
902.667 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
結果大家都講說台電沒有做好其實這個要責任權限要把它那個就是權責要分就是要把它分好了這個沒有分好的話沒有道理你賺多少錢這個大概是也 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
905.909 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
924.112 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
我們會持續要求業者來攬經濟消化最後跟部長就是工業區的災損是不是可以比照那個農損的一個那個災損來辦理那個經營部長是 報告委員我想至於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
935.279 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
947.625 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
現在是7月15日 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
974.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
978.451 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
好 謝謝那位委員發言謝謝卓院長 各部會所長的對訊 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
981.769 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
982.096 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
好 接下來 |