| IVOD_ID |
163445 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163445 |
| 日期 |
2025-08-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第24次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
24 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第24次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-08-12T10:32:37+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-08-12T10:48:37+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:16:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/affd0e2636d87bdf1b48e6743b333cdda8bba6e65b10b0a5bc88735d355306b8195587eb44c827bf5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊瓊瓔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:32:37 - 10:48:37 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-08-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第24次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院台灣民眾黨黨團，建請院會作成決議：「邀請行政院院長率同相關部會首長就『新世代打擊詐欺策略行動綱領2.0執行成效』進行專案報告並備質詢。」是否有當？請公決案等13案。（8月8日）二、邀請行政院院長率同相關部會首長列席，提出「丹娜絲颱風及七二八豪雨災後復原重建」專案報告並備質詢。（8月12日）三、8月8日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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接下來請楊瓊英委員質詢張琦凱委員請準備 |
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敬愛的院會主席韓院長我們行政院卓院長所領軍的行政院團隊各位新聞界的朋友我們同仁楊全元法院首先邀請院長麻煩再請卓院長備選 |
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梁委員好院長好 辛苦了我們首先要請教這一次當然是颱風在南部地區重創這個光電板飛來飛去的所以民眾很恐慌在這樣的情況之下目前還有多少的光電板還沒有清理 |
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甚至當時我們透過媒體也看到在餘溫或者是在滯洪池裡頭所以到目前為止我們還有多少光電板還沒有清楚 請說明 |
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報告委員在風災期間跟大雨之後我們去到現場去嘉義我們看了幾處其中有些廠商他自己處理得很好我們都特別感謝他我知道現在只有一個地方我們也開了罰單了也幫他租了台塘用地讓他臨時的堆放但是水面上的部分應該已經完畢就是堆放的那些部分他還沒有完全處理好 |
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還沒有處理好那有這個例子我們現在又看到楊柳颱風又要來了那在楊柳颱風又要來已經有預告了那再來之前是不是可以完全的清除好 |
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報告委員其實目前就是有兩個廠昨天被我們各開罰了200萬因為他堆置在那個地方就是屬於事業廢棄物那我們有開罰他200萬各200萬本期不問你開罰的情況民眾要的是安心楊柳颱風要來你請院長本期要請問的楊柳颱風要來了你會不會在楊柳颱風來之前把他清除好 |
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楊柳颱風不重要問的是這個之後會發布一級的應變中心成立那也發布入境那在這個情況我要求 |
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這個環境部跟地方政府要去再次要求業者因為業者他本身處理能力不足那這個屬於他的財產那我們也已經替他找了氣質廠希望在氣質的這個臨時對方的地方至少要那個地方是安全院長您所說的業者的能力不足但是民眾是政府的所以你們要有責任怎麼樣剛剛您所說的本期具體要求在洋流颱風來之前要把它處理好 |
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你能不能保證未來不會有這樣的事情發生院長 |
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風災各有隨時都會有可能但是今天跟今天一樣的錯誤本期不告訴你風災的問題本期告訴你是光電板這樣的處理未來不會有這種現象產生今天的錯誤我們極力把它避免掉極力避免 謝謝你接下來本期要跟你討論今天是我們災禍專報本期要請教請教院長你認為這一次中央在救災的工作上面你打幾分 |
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我不敢替自己打分數我剛在報告當中說了我覺得我們那個強韌的韌性的強力量力量不足韌性的力量不足所以本期告訴你我們回應處理的速度也不夠快廣泛的支持也不夠多不過多 |
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謝謝你的檢討 但是我認為院長還有總統 應該多聽民眾的聲音一定要好好檢討 第一個應變不足資訊 災區的資訊非常的混亂第三個 欠缺統籌這是非常重要 近六成的民眾在媒體報導 他認為你們是不及格的所以因此本席要告訴你你們多久才前進指揮所7月30號 |
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7月30號我們什麼時候發生颱風是7月6號20幾天但是風災0728的豪雨之後才把第一次的風災的狀況又把它加劇了否則在當那次颱風之後地方政府跟中央持續就房屋的修繕是逐步的在展開所以你的冷靜應變能力不足北京告訴你2012年陳忠當院長的時候 |
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天秤颱風24號登陸陳中院長立即指示成立這個前進指揮所 |
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他是24號登陸當天就成立 只是成立你是24天之後才成立啊是24天才成立我們在中央應變中心一直跟地方保持最高的聯繫所有必須要的資源調度都全力的支援院長 我擔心的不是你什麼時候成立我擔心的是你的指揮所 你的應變能力 你的統籌能力到底是怎麼樣 |
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到底是怎么样所以本席在这边要告诉你也就是说我们在灾前的一个能力的一个统合以及灾后我们看到问题随时叙述万片的时候我们要怎么样应对去统筹这个才是最重要的了解你也认同这样子那你既然认同这样子本席要来请教你 |
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在這一次我們媒體報導看到我都覺得非常的汗顏台南人受訪說政府擺爛台南的里長說整個救災就像腦死一樣他說過去在救災的時候會有直升機呀會趕快來看災路線路障我們的資源要從哪一個路進來但是他們說他們村子棄天他被道路封鎖的棄天沒有人來看也沒有看到空中的救援 |
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空洞的救援在這樣的一個情況下說了一句話這個是里長說你你等他里長說根本把我們台南人當什麼三級的難民地震的時候陸徵機是可以出發的但是在這種風風力雨勢之下我們要安全 |
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聽聽民眾的聲音這是你台南的里長的聲音這是你台南里長的聲音如果你這樣在人民眼中看來第一個時間你就是麻木的第二個時間你就是遲緩的第三個時間你不反省嘛民眾里長已經這樣告訴你所以本席要具體給你建議因為我們看到民眾告訴說我們的屋頂需要修總統說你自己爬 |
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斷訊總統告訴我們說立委有啊可是因為斷訊所以延誤就醫那個人走了我很難過耶還有我們的電力因為民生還有養護中心都是我們的人民都是我們的生命在這樣情況之下本席要請要告訴你不要把人命當兒戲 |
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不會 不可能 不可能好一個不可能 我們好好來檢討也就是說 你必須要好好的救災你必須要顧名聲 而不是只有搞政治很多人質疑 在災害發生的時候到現在 到這個7月28到你們澄清指揮所的時候這段時間在做什麼人民高度質疑 在搞政治不要這麼做人民的人命是最重要的你認同嗎 |
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沒有這樣的行為我說這個期間我去到災區有八次總統去的次數也相當相當的多次數多少我沒有跟你討論我要謝謝所有基層搶修的人員我們要好好謝謝他們 太辛苦了 |
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所以我告訴你 你們必須要好好去檢討分區應變的量能到底夠不夠我們不希望再發生 這樣荒腔醜白強韌的力量確實還不夠我們各種設備還是不足所以還要好好檢討 本期具體建議你們必須要學到的教訓 要捕獲你要怎麼做呢 建立一正式的聯繫窗口很重要的不能無頭蒼蠅 |
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第一個你要讓資源要知道在哪裡去統合第二個你必須要HOP流程第三個你必須要做全面性的中央部會資源的一個整合這個才是你身為行政院長你必須要做的好好去檢討好不好好的 謝謝不要把人民當兒戲好不好不會的 謝謝不會齁 好一個不會我們繼續來討論今天吶還有一個很重要的議題 |
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也就是我們的農村台中我們英植玉米上面是溝打開下面發芽從來沒有見過的雷降雨雷暴雨老天爺給我們的一個挑戰農民打開了之後他真的要暈倒了 |
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他所有的血汗都沒有血本無歸他還要收食產局南瓜掉在上面裂果了含水量太多裂果了掉下來還會有菌所以我們立即會刊所以我本期在這邊具體要求台中這一次的農損已經超過1億以上 |
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以農立國的台灣我們沒有理由不照顧我們的農民所以我要求具體在我們的重建災害條例裡頭特別條例一定要納入台中市全面的趕快勘栽全面的編列預算趕快給農民他們有一個願意再耕作的一個機會院長我拜託大院訴審特別條例我們來編訂特別預算已經送來了 |
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我們一定會全力以赴我們一定會全力以赴大縣長已經非常大力的促成了大力的促成嘛 條例我們自己也提啊全面的照顧我們的農民啊在審條例的過程或審預算的過程當中大院有任何意見只要跟行政院協商我們都願意來共同討論雙邊協商嘛但是我具體要求台中一定要納入在這個災害這個協助台中一定要納入 你給我一個回答就好了 |
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台中要全面納入對不對照顧我們的農民農損的部分天然災救助跟專案補助不管特別在那個特別條例的一個很清楚只要你超過兩成就可以盡情救助我們已經啟動了所以院長我們會全力的支持農民你們也要全力支持農民台中一定要納入 |
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台中會經過主管機關 依照條例的內容第二條 主管機關來認定實際自災的災區一定要全面納入 好 謝謝接下來本席要跟院長討論普發現金一萬塊 |
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今天雖然是我們災害條例 但是民眾苦不堪言關稅問題 匯率問題所以本期要去跟你討論的普發陷阱7月11日刪除通過刪除通過我們的嫩性特別條例8月1號總統公告請問現在行政院的態度到底是怎麼回事行政院的態度是怎麼樣 |
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大院修訂的法律總統公告它就會生效生效了行政院要執行嗎那雖然我們認為規矩已經過了是 容許我說雖然我認為在制定的過程當中對於大幅增加稅出沒有來徵詢行政院這個違反憲法跟預算法的條例 |
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的規定但是總統公告之後我們現在想的是我們如何跟立法院 行政立法兩院尋求一個解決憲政紛爭的一個方式我們希望朝這個方式來講那我也願意依照大家在 |
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討論過程當中最大照顧的方式讓最大最多數的人普遍受到更多的照顧同時我也希望能夠在產業支持方面能夠增加在電力系統民生系統維持上面能夠增加我們就整個這個任性的特別條例內容稍作調整但總統公佈的部分既以生效他就會基本上不變 |
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基本上不變 你會編的預算嗎統統通過的 我們就依照法律的精神跟規定但是我一定要一定要尋求問 什麼時候編來我會尋求這個解決憲政紛爭的這個危機我們在媒體上面看到我會用最快的速度在媒體會最快的速度你在媒體讓我們看到說你又要有一個什麼特別調整的條例或者你要釋憲又要排富到底怎麼回事啊第一個我現在得到答案 你會編 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
798.032 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
809.937 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
是不是什麼時候要編總統通過的生肖的法律我們就予以執行4年1.87兆的超徵稅本來就是還稅於民告訴行政院長告訴你新加坡發了2萬韓國發了9300美國也準備要發600塊美金等於是1萬8 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
821.521 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
842.412 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
這個是一個非常合理振興經濟這個擴充內需很重要的所以您的前任的行政院長也說過蘇貞昌說普發現金振興券是怎麼樣呢他說是全民共享經濟美麗的成果啊陳建仁院長也說他可以促進內需市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
846.172 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
860.889 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
認為可以刺激消費我們現在物價這麼高苦民所苦啊 苦民所苦啊發現金一個人一萬讓我們緩解物價高的一個壓力這是非常合理的一個財政紀律的一個分配 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
862.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
880.928 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
財政紀律就是讓行政院必須舉債來完成這個法律但現在我是想繼續即時舉債如果國人這麼期待大院這麼要求總統也已經公布法律聲明即時舉債可以舉債但是一定要合乎憲法的程序我再努力尋求來解決這個困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
882.449 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
898.306 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
把憲法程序紛爭解決完之後我們就可以依照現在生效的法律你的之後請教依法我們的三讀通過的條例總統公告他是十月底他是十月底要發放你會不會在十月底以前發放請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
898.846 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
901.429 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
馬政府發了消費券蔡英文總統發了兩次的振興券現金土房 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
922.065 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
941.635 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
都可以 新加坡可以 韓國可以 美國也預計要發為什麼只有賴總統跟你 卓葵 你到現在還拖拖拉拉我們要討論就要盡到理性來討論 第一個要實在本期再次請教 法律通過總統府公告的 總統公告的是10月底發會不會如期發 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
942.655 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
952.644 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
會不會我們會努力在條例修正跟預算編列之後我們訂定一個可以執行的時間當然條例預算通過之後越快執行好謝謝楊瓊 |