| IVOD_ID |
163353 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163353 |
| 日期 |
2025-08-04 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-08-04T09:55:10+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-08-04T10:07:26+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:16 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b46859f6d2502d5071cb47ac88e80bd1614178be66146618fdf55e1d0d4737d84a35e1cf326b66635ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
蔡其昌 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:55:10 - 10:07:26 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-08-04T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：邀請數位發展部部長、國家通訊傳播委員會代理主任委員、中華電信股份有限公司董事長、行政院災害防救辦公室、經濟部及台灣電力股份有限公司率所屬相關單位列席就「丹娜斯風災通訊中斷及復原過程與檢討及我國災後通訊搶救機制」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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這個南部這種風跟雨的確對南部的鄉親造成很大的傷害 |
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那在傷害當中我想跟今天比較有關的其實就是我們的相關的通訊我想這個這一次風災當然現在看起來氣象局說這兩天雨勢會小會停那 |
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災後的這些復健工作也很重要那藉這個機會其實也是台灣對於通訊韌性的一個非常好的檢驗那請問董事長現在還有中華電信的用戶 |
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視化跟我們的這個手機還有用戶無法使用嗎報告委員 這個行動電話與中華電信現在是通的啦那可能有一些地方的訊號微弱一些 因為還有35台因為鐵塔倒掉 需要一點時間 但是coverage是ok的 但視化 |
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釋化因為那個光化交接箱有1800個壞掉這個在骨幹網路我們都修好了但是到家裡的這個部分目前一天派工可以修到三五百戶那現在應該以本來到今天為止應該還有1000多戶但是因為這兩天又淹水了所以有增加所以目前應該還有3000多戶釋化代修 |
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OK 這個大概預估我們如果這兩天雨是挺的前提底下大概幾天內會讓市化修復完畢如果天氣好我們一天可以修500到1000戶所以一週左右對 如果是天氣好的話因為如果你又下雨又什麼就會阻礙這個修的部分那這部分我們已經除了台南加以我們也從各縣市調工班加速把這個市化能夠趕快搶修完成 |
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那基地台損毀的部分你剛剛說有幾個基地台35台那35台被損毀影響的用戶大概多少 |
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35台基本上因為我們用其他台調他的角度所以影響的用戶現在訊號都會通只是比較弱比較弱就不會降速啦簡單講應該是這樣速度變慢那大概用大概有多少範圍估算一下大約有多少用戶可能會受到影響 |
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就你簡單講就是說你一般你的記憶台大概平均一天的用戶跟這台記憶台連結的大概有多少是因為以台南嘉義大概三千台啦那有影響的應該也是幾百戶會啦因為比較偏的地方會啦會影響就是譬如說我覺得影響最大的可能是固定用他的手機固定用這幾個台做連結的這些用戶是是是那 |
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中華電信有沒有考量說對於這些固定在這附近機器台因為他簡單講他繳了很多的錢譬如說他是繳5G然後量多大譬如說吃到飽結果現在因為這段時間我們沒有辦法達成當時這個契約的約定那你有沒有考量說要減免或者是什麼 |
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有這個只要通訊有受准我們就會自動減免因為有這些規定我覺得這應該啦市長這個最基本的嘛那個受傷繳這個錢然後又不能夠達到當時的要求所以應該要適度的給予一些補償對對那另外也NCC跟電信協會協調我們目前也推出這兩個月六百分鐘 |
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國內行動打電話語音免費主委其他電信受影響的狀況你有沒有掌握 |
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有 那剛剛董事長提到說這個臨時基站有三十多處那其實三家有些供購有些沒有供購大概總共都臨時基站大概四五十處所那這種情況也是另外兩家也是用其他已經修好的基地台調整天氣角度來彌補它的涵蓋率那這種情況之下就像昨天委員所提到的那影響用戶跟他在地 |
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那個有關係那其實三家基本上都是以就是補的對象都是張丹所在還有那個戶籍所在為主那這種情況之下三家目前都在基本的法尊上面 |
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依據定型化契約來我們要求他們重寬認定所以NCC都已經要求要減免了好那主委另外我們從這一次的狀況可以來發現當他被斷訊譬如說真的風雨交加最嚴重的時候這些訊號中斷了一段時間那是因為後來中華電信業者開始修復 |
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那我們的現在的這些行動的裝置就是行動這個基地移動式的基地台這一次有沒有派上用場報告有但是災情最嚴重的時候移動式的行動車大概只有衛星派得上用場那比較傳統的靠微波靠光纖的都相對沒有辦法派上用場因為他沒有電 |
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那衛星的這一塊目前能量是還可以再加強因為也是感謝數位部去年補就是補助三家業者每一家十台總共三十台那災害最嚴重的時候幾乎那三十台幾乎都全部拉到原家地區來布建來提供這個通訊涵蓋所以現在我們有三十台裝載這個低軌衛星終端設備的有三十台對那 |
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速發部有沒有研究過 或人型研究過 到底我們要多少台 |
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在量能上面跟委員報告就是說我們研究過就是目前速發部過去的計畫是已經執行了700多台但是這700多台有一部分是給軍警銷有一部分是給國防使用我們手上現在有196台但是因為今年度我們的獎補助款大幅的減少 |
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所以我在去年買了700多台以後我今年並沒有辦法再增加這個量了那你本來預估應該要買多少台到今年為止如果依照我們去年跟前年所規劃的預算就是在700個計畫驗證完以後應該數量要逐年增加那今年應該要增加到2000台左右所以今年只增加到多少預計2000但實際上因為預算被凍結被刪除今年完全沒有增加 |
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所以還是700多台對你這700多台是韓景霄國防都在內我們手上只有196台那我們手上能夠調動的只有40幾台那其他的像這一次就沒有辦法調動還是因為需求沒有那麼大因為一開始這個30台車是一個驗證計畫那所以剛剛我也在專案報告裡面有提到就是說我們今年會用前瞻預算去補助 |
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把原來的106台車加上衛星的支架那這也是希望未來再增加衛星的接收器的時候這些車子能夠快速的把衛星接收器安裝上去好 所以簡單講就是說我會希望透過這一次的這個風災 |
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能夠緊述的將透過這次風災啦其實它就是一個演習嘛就對南部實施受傷但是對於通信的任性而言它其實就是一個最好的實驗場域嘛那所以以這一次來看明顯是沒有辦法在很短的時間內達成這樣的目標嘛簡單講就是說我們可能面對對岸的威脅嘛 |
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那你可能在一個時間內 譬如說遭受飛彈攻擊產生一個區域性的破壞 通訊中斷那這時候我們的衛星的設備就應該移動到那個位置那風雨所造成的現象 這一次來看起來我們還是中斷的時間 |
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蘇發部有掌握嗎?我們最多在南部的鄉親中斷了多久是完全沒有訊號是完全沒有辦法對外聯繫的跟委員報告因為這個中斷的數字在應變中心這邊有但是這很難去統計因為你有1200多台是中斷的但是我車子進去可能有部分的節點它會恢復那 |
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那這樣好了我們發揮作用在多少小時以後因為你數量不夠嘛所以有些地方你無法到達我們其實是在災害應變中心一成立就進駐了就進駐了然後因為南部本來有10台那在大概災害應變中心一成立我就已經跟同仁講說要把其他區域30台全部都調到南部去 |
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所以等於這30台在第一個時間斷訊之後就發揮作用28台28台就發揮作用因為南投跟東部他還是要留一台喔 懂你的意思那不管怎樣他就是第一個時間在28台所可以這個有作用的範圍內他就發揮作用當然東部調過去的他可能需要幾個小時但是從中部跟北部調過去的可能就是2到4小時之內就會到位好 所以部件來講 |
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兩千多台是預期下一個階段要到達那最終要到達台灣需要多少台你們的預估 |
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台灣如果是靠單一的衛星兩千多台可能也是不夠所以我們未來的規劃都是一直多元會再引進其他的新系因為同一個新系它的頻寬也是有上限對它有上限它會達到一個規模就沒辦法再增加另外一個就是說台灣的地形其實非常複雜像我們在東部救災的經驗發現有的新系在花東縱谷沒有訊號 |
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有的星系到了太魯閣就沒有訊號因為衛星的方向有的東西向有的南北向市長這個部件你預計還要多少年可以完成包括多元的部件包括數量上的部件大概要多久可以完成 |
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我們原來有一個五年的計畫就是針對多重新系本來有一個五年的計畫但是在過去的預算上面都只有通過一年今年是完全沒有預算所以你的預估本來五年可以完成 |
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我們本來有一個五年大概有兩千多個五年的意思就是說你預估這個計畫實施完大概就可以完成初步的部件完成應該是這樣子好那主委我覺得下半年又到了馬上又要審明年的預算了我想這個我們大家一起努力一下好不好這個昭偉在這裡我很認真在講給他聽因為他要支持啦好不好加油一下謝謝 |
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好 謝謝蔡介昌副院長的執行 |