| IVOD_ID |
163350 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163350 |
| 日期 |
2025-08-04 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-08-04T13:17:24+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-08-04T13:24:01+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:37 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b46859f6d2502d5034dffd4bdeb496c6614178be66146618b23a4874ffcc87f574277e4527d10aae5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:17:24 - 13:24:01 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-08-04T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：邀請數位發展部部長、國家通訊傳播委員會代理主任委員、中華電信股份有限公司董事長、行政院災害防救辦公室、經濟部及台灣電力股份有限公司率所屬相關單位列席就「丹娜斯風災通訊中斷及復原過程與檢討及我國災後通訊搶救機制」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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請再訪辦主任謝謝好來再訪辦我們王主任 |
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主任好 你們災防辦是一個長設機構嘛對不對是 我們災防辦是長住人員所以對於防災應該要更積極啦我今天看到行政院卓榮泰院長他去南部啊然後他說他很高興的宣布說我們現在的前進指揮所要變加速指揮所因為完成了第一個就是屋頂復原啊然後也受理了很多戶的申請要去媒合一些營造廠 |
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加速指揮所我想問一下我們這個前進指揮所是什麼時候設立的前進指揮所設立的一個我們那個風災是什麼時候7月5我們從7月6號7月6號嘛那請問一下前進指揮所什麼時候設立 |
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前進指揮所是在7月30號重建的那栽房的前進指揮所是什麼時候設立 有嗎 有這個前進指揮所嗎 |
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如果是應變應變的指揮其實在各地方我說前進指揮所前進有沒有沒有設立 並沒有設立現在那個災害那麼嚴重你們連前進指揮所都沒有設立 |
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這個在我聽起來是非常匪夷所思耶以前我們在地方政府服務的時候那時候烏來也遇到颱風那時候幾乎那個烏來山上有快被滅村那時候馬上就成立前進指揮所在前進指揮所裡面有指揮官指揮官可以立刻了解當地的需求調度相關的資源來協助救災就我們現在連前進指揮所都沒有設立然後等了二十幾天才設立復原的指揮所 |
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那大家都在忙什麼啊你們那時候7月5號、7月6號都在忙什麼啊連前進指揮所都沒有設立 |
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向委員報告你們都在忙什麼向委員報告因為這一次颱風如各位所知道的它是一個非常特殊的一個颱風它在房屋的損毀的一個部分事實上是各區都有所以當前進指揮所在設立比如說台南是在很多個區那我再請問一下所以你們災防辦有沒有第一時間就掌握災情狀況有沒有 |
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我們對於災害在中央災害應變中心每天早上九點你們立刻都有了解到所有的災情然後跟當地的需求都有了解都有了解 都有掌握好 那我現在請那個NCC好不好請NCC沒有沒有主任請留步那個主委請問一下您是什麼時候知道說當地通訊全斷然後需要來做災害的協助的 |
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其實第一時間就知道了那為什麼通訊可以到二三十天都一直沒有辦法恢復呢因為很多記憶台是它記憶台不好運作大概三個原因第一個記憶台本身被摧毀第二個記憶台本身沒電對 這個我們都聽很多啦我看了很多新聞都是NCC之前發的一些內宣的新聞都說NCC攜手什麼幾大電信公司哇 打造幾十部這個有越野功能的行動基地台哇 這種新聞我常常在看 |
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那你們NCC這邊你們報告自己寫的喔3月28號就舉辦114年度的通訊傳播災害防救演練訓練這是你們講的嘛對不對對請問一下你這個演練在現在真正災害發生的時候有發揮作用嗎有啊其實這是有什麼樣的作用 |
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就最簡單最簡單例子就是調派行動記憶台然後以後對可問題就是問題你說你做一大堆人家就是沒有通訊嘛然後你一直告訴大家說你打造了很多越野功能的行動記憶台但是當地就是沒有通訊嘛你有演練你有打造可是人家就是沒有通訊那問題出在哪裡 |
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關鍵就是規模太大了因為規模太大所以不是你的問題不是所以你們都不曉得說現在極端氣候可能會遇到強降雨可能會那個風災雨災可能會比以前更大你們都沒有想到這一點所以你現在的演練是針對什麼時候幾十年前的氣候來演練嗎還是怎樣 |
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我們是針對過往的經驗過往經驗嘛所以你們都沒有預測到極端氣候狀況你的演練是針對過往的那所以只要一旦遇到超出預期的風災雨災你就束手無策了不是束手無策是因為投入所有資源現在大家人民憤怒的地方就在這邊嘛第一個動作慢嘛第二就是我們都是針對過往啊我們不曉得這次這麼嚴重啊不能怪我們啊 |
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沒有 月子其實第一時間就已經投入救災投入復原那就是不夠啊那就是不夠啊你有做五分跟你有做二十分跟有做六十分跟有做一百分就是不一樣如果說你現在還是用這種態度我相信之後我們還是會遇到一樣的問題你應該是先去了解問題嘛問題是出在哪裡然後你才能夠提出解決的方式嘛 |
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有 我們會甚至檢討會加強業者的一些救災的一些能量怎麼增加是業者嗎 還是 |
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業者跟政府機關其實都一樣因為你們之前發的新聞稿都是以你們為主體啊都是說NCC攜手電信公司推動啊在宣傳的時候你們就是主體然後現在遇到問題的時候我們會叫業者做感覺你又推到二線了NCC扛起責任好不好因為你看幾十天人家家裡面沒有通訊是多麼痛苦一件事情啊讓你一天沒有手機你受得了嗎人家幾十天都沒有手機欸沒有通訊欸 |
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這個我們會持續來改善這部分那未來的這個負災的能量的一些增強增進我們這邊已經在持續跟相關部會來合作努力好 謝謝好 謝謝葉委員 |