| IVOD_ID |
163347 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163347 |
| 日期 |
2025-08-04 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-08-04T12:44:00+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-08-04T12:55:09+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:09 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b46859f6d2502d504ec47cb6f96e7a35614178be66146618b23a4874ffcc87f5e70ccf99090aa3605ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝龍介 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:44:00 - 12:55:09 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-08-04T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：邀請數位發展部部長、國家通訊傳播委員會代理主任委員、中華電信股份有限公司董事長、行政院災害防救辦公室、經濟部及台灣電力股份有限公司率所屬相關單位列席就「丹娜斯風災通訊中斷及復原過程與檢討及我國災後通訊搶救機制」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝我請這個台電好 台電喜富總經理能源署 中華電信 數碼庫NCC我們那個翁主任秘書還有那個我們鄭次 崔鄭次還有我們陳主委簡董事長 |
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台電你先答一下,一般的風災,太陽燃火要這麼多,您說的意思是它還有部分在發電嗎?是,那我想要跟委員報告 |
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太陽能毀損除非是全面性的否則毀損了20%那其他80%大概他就還有70%可以把電到潰線透過潰線到我們電網對不對如果看他沿途如果說有一個據點沒有問題 這樣就好 感謝你能源署也有來開會就是要解決問題 |
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那能源署就是說這個太空零零罐剛才在潰線 台電開那一支那麼這個潰線裡面可以潰一條網路線嗎?應該可以這是原本潰線的功勞 再來蘇華部你說有算刪掉它啊刪得很可憐 你有沒有人要買衛生紙給人家簽名? |
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剛才委員在跟你們說 三個都沒有錢三十本也要有一本 如果金金也可以拆英啊有三個有三個都沒辦法做事情 你還在這裡叫我很可憐感謝委員的說 你覺得真的都沒有錢能夠做你敢這樣說嗎所以 要有良心 國安要有經過頭 |
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可以做多少算多少 譬如說因應災變 因應戰爭 真正沒辦法需要調研大家共同來針對五省及其這都可以討論 這樣就變得很理性了跟不是我告訴你 你們這樣做的問題 聽了之後才有辦法基地台 我請教電話電信 |
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你剛才還在說要用那個桌子 書啊 布啊 又說要用發電機我請教你在現在中華電信 不管其他業者你現在有沒有還在使用全向的基地台有啊 有嘛 專用的有 定用的也有嘛海濱這麼空闊 |
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您在發生風態之後,你有沒有加大功率?你剛才說的,NCC台電的電信跟電信夾車,有給你申請加大功率嗎?我們有跟他講說只要符合規範,他們的調整這段時間有沒有嘛他們沒有回報,但是我們跟他說要改善一般是調整天線角度不是啦,董事長 |
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中華電信 現在要漫遊 其實今天就可以做所有的Data都有你吃到一斤的芒果 吃多少 吃幾分鐘 聽小怎麼聽 其實你們三間電信公司完全沒問題 |
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所以剛才NCC在說,這災防法比較有辦法解決,現在補分有自愛難行主席我是建議說,藥廠下去進步,我們要開一個聯席,心責,給他促成其實現在就要做一件事,要萬倍嘛,因為大家消業費嘛,沒有人要省錢喝現在要踢小,怎麼會不踢 |
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259.454 |
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280.904 |
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只要一個災害 緊急 應變一個命令下來 其實屬澳中華電信 跟其他的電信公司聽起來 我要說我市場電信公司還不算我就在做電信啊所以我告訴你 你基地台 你說沒電 我請問你基地台裡面 幾噸沒檢查mattery啊 |
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287.075 |
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296.6 |
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委員替你報告基地台的電力是一段時間都會檢測那不是基地台電力的問題一段時間可以檢測你避風電力多久你設定幾點鐘給NCC說你對著基地台設定避風電力要多少空運行的起碼要能夠蓄電4小時那高抗災要72小時 |
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325.149 |
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70里休息那這是屬於規格標好的為什麼停電後後期在台有的失靈有的還在運作有的失靈我就影響我電信你們剛才討論費率599到699到799我奇怪 幾個月有信號我比較沒有我2699吃到飽我是你們的VIP我2699吃幾頓 你知道嗎 |
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340.131 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
351.84 |
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為什麼我到長沙也沒電 你的行動通訊車有在那 郭國文不錯 他調兩台在那我也沒有 我也沒有信號 你是大小人看我要去勘測總要把我當起來我也沒有 我還吃現場年輕人他吃到你的基地台 吃到你行動機立台的信號 我還吃他的 我還連結他的 |
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367.25 |
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381.66 |
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所以我在這裡要跟你們說 蔓藥也好 要做一件事 但是不要拖了啦主席 我覺得這個再拖就沒意思了這樣是需要雷震波移椒災防法 下令說現在這時就可以跨越別蔓藥 蔓藥之後 因為鐵燒燒燒你們都沒問題嘛 |
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408.387 |
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很簡單的 這些東西炸了都將空在你們手裡所以不需要去替這個無分嘛現在就是說 財庫 我剛才在跟你們說開花 要有一個應變西部 太陽影射這麼多 美麗的大地 也不像台灣讓你們囤大到這樣 不然你們也回饋一下就是說 太陽明顯起的時候 真的天災地變來你們也不怕 八月 九月 十月 還有可能的風太大 |
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風太過來 會變成怎樣所以在基地台 每一個基地台的挑釁所他要把電送回去台電的電盤的時候在這個地方 我請問你 能建立一個臨時的鐵鐵22管7樓管的避兇電塔嗎其實那是完全沒有的 這只有一個結構問題當時剛才我說的意思是什麼 你聽到沒有 |
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459.556 |
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所有電網都回電的時候 電位條倒了沒電的時候 但是這條零售海濱這裡的太陽能發電是有電的它的電要送到你的電網也送不回來坦白講 開線可以送到 但是電位條你送不進來是不是這樣 台電是不是這樣它發電送出去 我這裡的發電送出去到你的電網 但是我在這裡沒電能吃 |
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478.936 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
494.323 |
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我請問你 這樣可以在當地一個特定所在那裡的電 不要說給社區這裡因為社區就是說 緊急救災所要用的電可以直接對這個特定所 噴出來在現場做一個緊急的韌性 強化你們每次都說韌性 這就可以強化韌性你們參加的 力猶猶的太陽林公司 怎麼不蓋這個火花 |
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506.465 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
507.686 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
技術上是可行 |
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不要說可行啦 但是啊 但是的能言俗慣啊NCC要求的啊 司法部給他要求的啊主席這是很簡單的事情 但是沒有人要去做也不知人 也沒有人要去煮飯你以為那裡有多少案中那裡有多少案中 一百案中就可以有一百的基地台 |
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547.165 |
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563.213 |
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臨時的 所以我剛才跟你講 虧欠為什麼因為中華電信你做一條顧問日 那不開很多錢 因為功勞都好了嘛電算好 董事長你跟我說 功勞都好的情形台電的開算功勞都好的時候 拜託你中華電信配一條顧問 光線顧問日 要開很多錢嗎不用啦 齁 董事長我說這樣有利嗎 齁 真清楚 這樣是不是問題要解決啦 |
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584.853 |
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結果 大家覺得很不白天晴到六點 真可惜啦 國家用這麼多資源 不用這麼多公務人員大家都不敢講真話 都要配合他說 啊沒有錢喔 有勝算啦齁 你沒有錢能做啦齁 |
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589.918 |
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613.722 |
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聽到心情痛 災民在那裡很辛苦 你聽得懂嗎你看災苦的人 不要說人家在表演了 解救就救了這是你們可以做 你要了解 災民在那裡的時候沒水沒電 最主要一定是沒消息 這是他最恐慌 內心的恐慌會從這裡來可是今天你的忙喔 幸好讓他在外面可以聯絡他就不會怕 他心就不會怕 |
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明確在這裡啦 所以我建議說你們看保肥也好 NCC也好 塑化部也好 台電也好 臨環署我剛才在講這個問題 其實是味噢中油啦 沒喝多久人家說蝦丁就要這種貨來牛 你看他給我們賺錢賺錢 一個案中給我們賺幾百億叫他在那裡蓋一個基底起來 一個鐵塔起來 |
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641.172 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
657.355 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
建立一基二十米的鐵塔一筆不惜技術這樣建立我們臨時村子整個都廢物了基地都廢物了我們可以臨時建置因為怎樣 當地有電源有古往潰線董事長我說這樣有理嗎沒有理有啦 如果有電 當然基地都會有電有電的問題我替你解決了嘛 好不好感謝您謝謝我們謝龍介 |