IVOD_ID |
163232 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163232 |
日期 |
2025-07-21 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-18 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
3 |
會議資料.會次 |
18 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-07-21T12:02:24+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-07-21T12:15:02+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:12:38 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/03307e70a03ca0b91cb972de9c12ed15bc8bc26138795b0eaa6412bdbc962f35dc3fb96d4c95e3195ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
林俊憲 |
委員發言時間 |
12:02:24 - 12:15:02 |
會議時間 |
2025-07-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第18次全體委員會議(事由:邀請經濟部部長、農業部部長、內政部首長及交通部首長就「丹娜絲颱風及0708豪雨災損及回復情形」進行報告,並備質詢。) |
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好 感谢主席本期邀请我们经济部的郭部长还有我们台电郭部长曾董事长曾董事长 |
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議員好部長 你也有召集在庫那邊我想你應該感受到這次災情那麼慘其中這個斷電是一個非常重要的因素因為你如果停電在這邊的在庫很多地方是要停水 |
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因為他們的水啊 水壓如果不夠都要靠那個抽水摩托所以你停電停水我們的電話條款都倒了所以啊 網路訊號 手機訊號他們都怕我們的電話鎖了所以這回倒了這次就是停電停水又停掉了電信訊號所以造成了可能是有史以來最慘重的災情之一啦現在大家都在說那如何強化 |
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我們的電網的韌性 我想這倒不是供電的問題 是電網的問題如果強化我們電網的韌性 譬如說電能地下化電能地下化確實是一個方法 但是我想不是所有的答案 |
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我跟董事長討論一下我以前在我選區我們台電也在外雙屋就是平安公路台17層這就是台南市的南區 溪丘到萬里當中這以前風太大就跳電了因為它的電話條都站在台時機的旁邊颱風一來風很大 電線都會戳斷電話條沒倒就戳斷電線 |
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所以後來這個地方就跟北亞發就解決這個問題啦那這是2016年我跟我們台電爭取的那時候才六千多萬不過現在恐怕以目前的供料這個會很貴了啦這道理在這裡我想董事長跟我們台電的總經理你們大概幾乎都進駐在災區嘛你應該感同身受啦那要不要來強化我們的電網啊我想 |
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對 電纜如果地下化 沿水的地區就不行了是不是這樣 我不定有時間給你答詢但我要跟你 我的意見請你帶回去啦對齁 那不一樣的地方目前可以優先電纜地下化 台北現在有沒有計畫來 那個我跟跟委員報告幾個事情 第一個事情就是我們主幹線一定要先強化因為大家都用 |
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單一的解方就是說 認為地下化就可以解決問題但地下化如果我們這些設備被水泡了那個解決問題要更久因為淹水地方 電能地下化更麻煩2018年那個西部海岸淹水那個光是抽水就抽了七八天那個七八天以後才來復電 那個事情會更麻煩所以我跟委員報告幾個事啊齁您剛才講可以地下化的地方可能都是要路基比較穩定 好的道路 |
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我們來優先辦理那我們就很確定的來討論我認為台10及台19省道啦 省得一波排水就做得更好這補免什麼 能夠由誰來做啦我認為台電你應該先規範出可以遞交的所在地的行政 |
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跟委員報告這一點我們會提啦因為部長都指示我們要趕快做這件事因為這件事大家都關注這個需要跨部會一起來處理啦因為交通部也在我其實是因為這個牽涉到省道我們過去有一起的合作經驗我們有沒有辦法怎麼做好這件事因為連電信的我覺得這個是可能可以合作的事 |
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不淹水的地方然後又有高壓阻線阻幹管通過的地方要行走啦 要行走地下化啦那這當中當然牽扯到跨部會尤其你省道齁因為你如果對人地下化第一個你要交通維護啦 |
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要有交尾的問題嘛對你啊 路面你要再 喔 要再停泊嘛有路權 有施工的問題嘛所以都是你們兩個部位應該要好好的互相協助的啦這樣好不好那另外啦 來 我再請教一下台電啦如果不能地下化的地方啦那應該要強化啦 提高啦 抗風 |
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的這個急速啦對謝謝委員啦我覺得這件事情是我們因為地下化要花時間我們在這個因為颱風現在7月就來我們你要做一些事情我先跟委員報告就是說我們現在會在重要的 |
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那個主要的那個電感上面因為比方說上面要裝開關就是切換的開關或者是有變壓器的我們會先把它快速的先換成抗風強度比較高的那在一排裡面如果有幾支這種抗風強度更高的鐵塔電感 |
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他就不會他就可以讓整排導斷的範圍縮小可能一排原來可能20隻我們中間如果差了4、5隻他就比較不會導斷這麼多這個是我們這幾天跟同仁我們現在緊急在做我們已經準備要緊急採購更強化的電感來做這個 |
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類似就是中央隔斷災害擴大的一些工作好 再來喔因為這台電話條都要2400萬元喔那有些倒掉的喔 我也請台電經理幫忙啦你像現在還有一些喔 還沒有移走的喔我知道你現在也缺機具啦 缺人力啦那你要自己去想辦法克服啦要趕快把這個倒下來的電話條趕快幫忙啦這都看得乾淨啦 是 那個 |
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大部分都移了 現在在部落裡面還沒移完 村落裡面都還沒移你當然先刷大樓啦 但是裡面還有很多 我拜託你請台電趕快把這些倒塌的電線趕快移走好 謝謝好 謝謝曾董事長另外我來 部長您先休息我來請農業部陳部長 |
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這次第三期的風災農業史詩是差不多全國最多,差不多全國的四成五百那其中我現在發現,你的農漁業的補助標準沒有一樣你現在一不兩制,你現在農業補,你都免限刊現在也可以開始去公所受理申報、訂訂你現在漁業史不是這樣,台南也很像 |
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那我現在接到的反應啦你漁業署免限的條件你根本無法寫 怎麼可能呢幾個人做得到你現在免限的條件 要有水產履歷 產銷履歷還是有天然災害補助金錢救助你今年還沒有啊 有多少人死了對不對今年有死了也很少啦第三 要有漁業的保險 |
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這三個啦 產銷履歷也好啦 漁業保險 本來就是你漁業署要推廣漁業署推廣的績效你自己知道啦你看很多人有保養很少有 我數數給你看啦是酒瓣的零啦 是三百一的五啦 頭髮便宜是五啦吳國瑜的頭髮金額只有一啦我如果請求啦 你現在免現金提出三個條件 |
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當然不可能嘛我跟委員報告一下 這可能有一點誤解喔基本上我們免限幹的時候就是你只要能夠證明你有養殖的事實 有沒有這個才算的 但是這三個就是說因為這三個在我們的資料庫有很容易就能夠查證啦但是你如果說只有這三個來來來 我跟你講你所謂的 如果這三個條件你達不到 |
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沒有 不是因為這三個裡面我們資料庫都有所以很容易查到沒有的時候你只要去證明你有財神跟養殖的事實這個你拿包括你如果有去放羊這個資料拿過來我們會去查證我們先來講一個確定現在有的公所他不受理第一個 |
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我們如果沒有打架,你剛才說的那三個條件,我如果用照片,你現在去寫那些假的,那四個字都會發臭嘛,對不對?所以應該是如果我有拍照純正,我有養殖的事實,你就要認定了嘛,這樣農業跟漁業才會一致嘛 |
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我也非常同意委員所說的就是說漁業本身我如果是免限刊的話你只要去證明你有養殖的事實那養殖的事實你可以用APP的照相那公所如果願意認定就認定了或者是你剛才拿你因為我剛剛講的那三件我們的資料口都有你只要說你是成交履歷的我馬上調得到資料那你沒有的話你用照片也可以或者是你其他方式證明你有養殖那就可以了那這個部分我想我會再跟公所來溝通 |
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好 那就按照部長你所說的另外有一個部分我認為要留意的在室內養殖的部分現在你做養殖也熟悉的那室內養殖並沒有在我們這次的補償範圍內我是不是請營業署 你看這裡都風災造成的嘛那營業署 你第一邊說的這個部分是不是應該要納進來 |
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我覺得這個應該要放進去喔包括一些算是屬於設施啦 養殖的設施那養殖的設施如果農民的話我們一次性的都提高到八成喔這個部分我想我們會來處理好 你應該要把室內養殖爺納入好不好是好 要保證喔再給我們一分鐘喔那個內政部 內政部 來董事長 |
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委員好市長我們現在行政院在災後重建是我們對民宅我們已經開始有你補貼對今天我們叫你出店鋪的大廈房就一萬五萬十萬就是六萬到三萬三萬以上但現在在庫我不知道你有沒有去過現場你有去過現場嗎在區現場我們署長有去過那裡補貼也去過了 |
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現在民眾非常不滿,就是因為在我們在庫每天都要去三合院,三合院都一個門牌,每天都住更好,整個一定這樣 |
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你現在你所謂他照你生涯的保証你是都依一個門牌為單位嘛你應該以戶數為單位啦你不能以門牌為單位啦我們會那個跟那個相關 |
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我們是移戶來處理你看移戶是我的單位喔你有當時一個我之前去縣勘看有一個三合院大六戶的他們有水電灘也能證明嘛有沒有居住四十李幹事或是龔壽也都知道嘛這樣有沒有 |
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跟委員報告我們基本上就是三合院就是他是多戶一門牌所以我們是一門牌一戶但是我們還是會以居住適時然後以破損的面積來做計算那做計算的方式我們就是按照破損的面積的狀況6坪到30坪是5萬 |
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表柱都一樣啦 但是你要他負責就算啦是 我們會去處理你不可以他不擺為單位啦 因為他當時就不擺會打滾就好了這就不然你要趕快通知 因為現在是公所不受理多戶啦 |
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好 謝謝 |