iVOD / 163209

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IVOD_ID 163209
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163209
日期 2025-07-18
會議資料.會議代碼 院會-11-3-21
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第3會期第21次會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 3
會議資料.會次 21
會議資料.種類 院會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第3會期第21次會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2025-07-18T12:06:35+08:00
結束時間 2025-07-18T12:10:05+08:00
影片長度 00:03:30
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 吳秉叡
委員發言時間 12:06:35 - 12:10:05
會議時間 2025-07-18T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 第11屆第3會期第21次會議(事由:第11屆第3會期第21次會議 一、討論事項:本院台灣民眾黨黨團,建請院會作成決議:「行政院主計總處應依立法院審議中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案通案刪減之決議意旨,由中央各機關及所屬編列之預算刪減調整,並立即將一般性補助款足額撥付予地方政府。」是否有當?請公決案等11案。二、7月18日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、7月22日下午5時至6時為處理臨時提案時間。)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 主席 各位同仁 凌虐兒童非常不可取大家都非常支持要加重處罰所以我們這個草案才會有272條的鎮定對於這個凌虐兒童來故意來殺害這個小孩的話加重他的罪已經有在很清楚的加重的狀況那今天對於這個凌虐兒童每一個黨團我相信都深入痛決
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 不過法律有它的體系我在這個地方要跟大家解釋刑法這個法律它必須在總則有三個概念第一個概念叫做構成要件該不該當是不是跟刑法法定的構成要件一樣第二個是這個行為有沒有違法性第三個叫做罪責
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 什麼叫罪責呢就是他犯了什麼樣的錯得到怎麼樣子的處罰這中間必須是有整體的平良一致的關係
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 殺害 故意殺害小孩這事已經定在272條現在286條在討論的是 泯滅 致小孩子有重傷或是死亡的結果那為什麼跟272條不一樣呢就是因為他這個犯罪的太陽不一樣272條就是直接目的是要殺小孩子
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 這個286條是他的目的是泯滅但是導致小孩致重傷致死亡的這個結果不是這個犯罪人本來他要的那至於說你這個認定怎麼這樣亂認定認定的權利那個是在法院不是我們立法院法院的審判是各個案件進入實體的時候根據證據根據佐證來去採認的結果
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 那現在就是造成一個問題你滅小孩但是後面加了一個你不要的結果是自重傷自死這樣的結果你刑法要放這麼重的時候你跟故意殺害掉那個小孩子之間的那個罪責的分別就會變得很小
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 那這個跟刑法原來的制度是不一樣的我覺得民眾黨的委員不要在這個地方用很民粹的話講啦我舉個例子 法務部並不同意這條86條你們的修正案難道你認為法務部這些人全部都是沒回沒發財都是要害這個孩子嗎絕對不是這樣嘛而是我們討論事情要根據問題的原理來
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 泥虐都有犯罪殺害小孩子罪很重泥虐致死罪也很重但是有沒有必要要把他拉到死刑這個結果這個是可以討論的那如果是這個樣子的話就是基本上要回頭問問看你刑法罪責的概念你在那邊
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 好 謝謝吳秉瑞委員會謝謝吳秉瑞委員會好 謝謝謝謝吳秉瑞委員會