IVOD_ID |
162946 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162946 |
日期 |
2025-06-30 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-28 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第28次全體委員會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
3 |
會議資料.會次 |
28 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第28次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-06-30T09:24:55+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-06-30T09:34:07+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:09:12 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f0b047677e7ec78631c94bbe115c31015ae3a86deb72054c9d613b3b430d254b06f8ede9641c85fc5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
王美惠 |
委員發言時間 |
09:24:55 - 09:34:07 |
會議時間 |
2025-06-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第28次全體委員會議(事由:一、審查行政院函請審議「平埔原住民族群身分法草案」。二、審查委員林宜瑾等22人擬具「平埔原住民族群身分法草案」案。三、審查委員賴惠員等21人擬具「平埔原住民族群身分法草案」案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等19人擬具「平埔原住民族群身分法草案」案。【僅詢答及宣讀提案條文;第四案如未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書則不予審查。】) |
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主席 我們請主委 鄭主委有請 委員好主委 早 早 主委 今天我們要審 北部族 關主民的新聞的草案在這裏面 你們有覺得有什麼寫了不對嗎 |
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因為差一天喔 又天差一天啦本時候要跟你討論的就是在第三條裡面你有說到我們的憲法修法的第四條第二項第一款但是在我們的裡面 原住民的裡面並沒有第二項第一款只有第一項第二款 |
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主委 這是小小過錯對啦 這個有誤之我來講 這不能小小過錯這兩三不是像我們年輕人大人拖一百拖不拖五十也好這是不一樣的 |
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那條款裡面 所定的跟你所定的這是完全不一樣的所有主委 這要最終去注意 不能說小小過錯啦 好不好因為這事我來講不是開玩笑的因為我看起來 我怕你問錯了 再請教 |
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所有的專家都說這可能是你們的單位寫得不對所以主委 老闆要比較好看好來 主委今天所要討論的就是80年的 |
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法庭憲法裡面就判決說,全部主委就要在今年三年來就是在今年一八十四年的十月來,就要來完成啦但是說實在的主委,在我的辦公室也好,在家裡的服務處也好都有接到公民團體的建議啦 |
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那也有我們的委員裡面的建議,因為公民團體的建議是希望我們不要繼續修另外一個法,是應該 |
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全部主是關主民裡面的一份主是不是要在裡面的新聞來收到因為在公民團體的意見當中請問主委,你有聽到公民團體的意見嗎?來,你回答一下 |
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我跟魏旺報告,這個去年的時候,我們就已經辦高中的座談會,今年這個沒有啦,我知道你辦,我是主委,不好意思,我要打岔我就是說,辦,辦,他們的意見,我知道你有辦喔,不過剛才就來了,你說你們沒有辦,我知道你有辦,跟辦他們的意見,你有參與,有做參考沒有啦來,主委請你回答 |
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在今天這個座談會 也有公民團體提起這個意見但是為什麼不直接就修原住民法 也有很多人在說 |
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但是就是說這個看我們這個判決的這個立法的主文我們是希望就是說必須要能夠用一個專法更能夠來符合我們的 |
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平埔原住民族群的一些相關的權益這也有人在說差不多意見是差不多差不多啦不是說都說一定要修身分法也有說要修專法這個修專法的這個共識比這個修身分法比直接修身分法比較多一點啦 |
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多一點點 比較多一點啦這樣喔 跟我聽是沒那麼多的主委 你是覺得麻煩 還是怕說有很多問題的參選所以你來做這個手法 這個問題不 因為我都覺得 不管什麼意見我們都要聽 因為我覺得 我們的委員他的意見 |
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也好,公民團體的意見也好,因為坦白說,大家都想一個關注他們的一分數的時間,是怎樣你們要再六分 |
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這讓他們覺得,不然我們再加原住民,又不公平,要怎麼分辨?說到這裡,讓人所說的話,就是怕大家的偏埔族來賓,所謂的納入原住民來賓 |
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16宗,我們如果多做一宗就好了,變成17宗就好了我們不會這麼麻煩但是最主要的,我要說的就是我們裡面的資源 |
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是要公家用,還是要這樣用,這是很大的問題啦,主委,你應該聽我說的意思啦是要這樣自己用,還是要公家自願公家用,這個是最重要的啦 |
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變得我們越做越大,不是跟一家人的使用在這裏面,我要來請教主委,主委在213條裏面,全部講到教育及文化 |
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那這樣下去的時候 他們的祕密會更加有文化是不是跟我們現在的原住民 更加有差異啊你第二十三條來賓 怎麼會更加有文化有關這個語言跟文化 |
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直接將來平埔族群是直接就可以適用現在的法律現在可以用啊現在我們就有在協助他們的尤其是語言啦他們的語言流速太快了所以我們現在就有在協助平埔原住民的族人在做這個語言文化這一定要做的現在也在做啊 |
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主委,在這方面,我提供的意見,你要去了解,要想一個方法,是非常簡單在這個過程當中,你也有說到,我們要想的事情是不是讓他們去 |
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認定他們的身份,在五年五年裡面,心事不足的時候,我們要改十年剛才你還說,也可以改十五年,但是在這個規定要改的時候,沒有做,這裡的族群 |
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在那裡等啊等,慢啊慢啊,好,真好等啊,本身要跟你說的是,是要如何如何,他們長久以來,他們就要證出他們的身份,要如何去選擇他們的核心去定義,因為最了解 |
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在統計台的總統差不多有九十萬人的民眾我們現在有六十幾萬人的關注人所以在這個規定當中我們要怎樣 |
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讓這裡的九十幾萬人,在這個時間可以出來登記啦你不可以說,他說可以行,可以行,他說行不完,也做不完,跟一個工會,也沒有資質,要修法我們就是有這個關係要修,要讓他們在這裡可以認定他們的身份啦所以主委本身跟你說這些 |
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這個議件的時候,麻煩我們討論的時候,你們要去納入 |