| IVOD_ID |
162893 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162893 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-3-20,36-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-26T10:09:35+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-26T10:17:45+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:10 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/1b546098ab7db5063165f6e47b5e5a578be1699f4405fe9f5dc299e2380ced3f5b23da5efbb1608e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅智強 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:09:35 - 10:17:45 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查行政院函為監察院114年度辦理「2025年第37屆澳紐及太平洋地區監察使年會暨人權國際研討會」所需經費不敷，請同意動支114年度中央政府總預算第二預備金750萬元支應案。） |
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請王代理秘書長王代理秘書長其實在預算審查當中你有沒有發現司法院也好考試院也好預算大家有意見的比較少監察院大家意見就很多 |
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那我告訴你為什麼我先從幾件事來看為什麼監察院大家對你的預算意見那麼多坦白講要開國際年會我覺得沒什麼問題但監察院自己想想看為什麼對監察院的預算大家意見那麼多我想請教你這句話你看是誰說的死刑作為一個結束個人生命的終極懲罰不管採取什麼樣的執行方式都是殘忍不能到死刑是酷刑不能以合法制裁知名豁免責任 |
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八成民眾不贊成廢除死刑做出台灣民意對廢死強烈不滿的結論但不能合理理解台灣社會的真實面貌下如何得證國家發動死刑的正當性這些話是誰說的委員我不能確定是不是國家人權委員會沒錯啊就是國家人權委員會六月份所出的年報 |
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事實上為什麼從這個地方開始講我想請問你們還特別強調廢除死刑是深化民主跟落實轉型正義的重要步驟我想請問代理秘書長廢除死刑跟深化民主有什麼關係因為這是國家人權委員會的正式主張我可不可以請經理回答可以啊 請人權委員會來說明一下 |
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是 報告委員跟委員說明一下就是國家安全委員會其實是站在守護生命權的立場那因為我們國家已經所以被害人的生命權不重要因為主要是因為我們國家已經簽訂了兩公約那你遇到施朵講的女老師你要不要描述一下怎麼受殘忍的虐待 虐殺其實我們是扮演著一個那你知不知道今天最近有詐欺集團綁架61個被害者綁架61個人 |
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我想請教人權會這六十一個人的人權在哪裡其實人權會我們我想問你哪一個政府執政之下有六十一個人被綁架的一次綁架六十一個人你聽過嗎你有沒有聽過先跑出人權會立場有聽過嗎有時綁架人數最多就是在我們民進黨執政的時候你也有去關心這些人權嗎 |
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我們人權會其實這幾年在廢死的工作上面其實我們同時對啦我知道你心心念念就是要廢死啊我們其實現在也針對受害者的家屬所以人權會沒有心心念念要廢死啊我們今年其實也針對受害者的家屬然後在這個部分開始著力你一邊跟大家講你要廢除死刑一邊跟大家講你關心受害者的家屬你去講給受害者家屬聽啦你不用講給受害者家屬聽你講給誰聽我告訴你你知道那個61個被綁架的 |
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被未讀被惦記被虐待活活虐待三個人死掉虐死三個人一樣啊免死你去跟那個被虐死那三個人講講人權好不好要不要去拜訪家屬講人權謝謝你的無語我告訴你這是為什麼第一個我要講 |
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你憑什麼說不支持死刑反對廢除死刑是不民主的什麼叫做廢除死刑叫深化民主那不廢除死刑就不是深化民主這你們人權會的結論總不能否認吧在現在的是不是嘛一百多個國家裡面其實目前還有存留死刑的國家已經很少了而且重點是 |
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民進黨最愛拿著美國做例子美國也有一些州是沒有廢除死刑啊所以他也沒有深化民主啊不要拿民主做標籤就這麼簡單這是你們人權會自己想要做的 |
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迎合執政黨廢除死刑的黨綱那是政治意識形態其實這個不是迎合因為我們已經簽署兩公約沒關係啊你去跟那三位被虐死的家被虐死的受害者講這些啦當初兩公約在簽的時候是在馬總統時代我很簡單我要講一個結論我要告訴你一個結論兩公約你也不要拿來框我兩公約也沒說要廢除死刑兩公約只是說要嚴格謹慎的執行死刑對啊你也講對那你拿兩公約出來縮嘴 |
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沒有,因為很多國家如果說不執行執行的話是可以排除第五條的我再說啊,我就做一個很簡單的結論啦你光你今天監察院站在八成民意反對廢死的民意的對立面我就不知道監察院在幹嘛在講本務啊想請教一下我們代理秘書長剛好看前面的委員都有質詢啊 |
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李俊詩用公務車已經請辭那想請問現在行政調查結果進度到什麼程度目前有關於 我們副院長也有說明然後會 目前檢調在處理中有六個案件然後另外紀律委員會也有排案要我們副院長就胡說八道什麼叫檢調在處理就不能處理 |
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法規規定的很清楚並不因此停止調查所以搞了半天我剛剛前面講先站在八成的反對廢死的民意的對立面就是監察院然後第二個自己是要端正關真的單位結果呢涉入一大堆問題第三個時間到我也不占用時間很簡單 |
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到現在為止監察院到底交出了什麼監督行政權的成績單出來給大家看不是大家刪監察院預算而是監察院真的是做的實在是讓大家覺得這個單位存在跟沒存在到底差別在哪裡關鍵還一件事情我希望陳菊院長早日康復我是真心的希望祝福她身體健康可是一個院長請假多久了 |
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目前院長在請假中請假多久你看連我們的代理秘書長都不知道院長請假多久還沒有半年快半年快半年那不就是某種程度我也要必須說那不是證明監察院院長不在半年也是沒有關係嗎行政院院長可以半年不在嗎司法院院長半年不在嗎所以我還是要回頭說啦 |
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今天年會的預算我沒什麼意見啦國際會議要舉辦沒什麼意見但監察院真的我還是回頭當然也不能怪你們啦我說過啦監察院的整個制度設計就是有問題我今天跟黃國昌委員已經一起提案就是針對修憲要啟動調整監察院的憲政職程 |
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讓監察院變成一個民意機關我覺得比較能夠解決現在的問題不會背離民意甚至不會因為被行政權牽絆而不敢執行監察權的職務謝謝好 謝謝羅志強接著我們請莊瑞雄委員質詢馬力 |