| IVOD_ID |
162891 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162891 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-3-20,36-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-26T09:53:54+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-26T10:01:37+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:43 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/1b546098ab7db5061c7b9aa551e582928be1699f4405fe9f5dc299e2380ced3fb902c6b3e87089da5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:53:54 - 10:01:37 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查行政院函為監察院114年度辦理「2025年第37屆澳紐及太平洋地區監察使年會暨人權國際研討會」所需經費不敷，請同意動支114年度中央政府總預算第二預備金750萬元支應案。） |
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主席 在場的委員先進 列席的政府機關長 官員 會長 工作夥伴 媒體 記者 女士先生有請我們行政院主計總處的陳副主計長監察院的王代理秘書長 以及紀律委員會的正執行秘書王代理秘書長 還有我們的紀律委員會正執行秘書 |
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好 副主席長好 代理部長好 還有鄭時勤秘書好來鄭時勤秘書請教一下剛剛的前面黃委員說如果委員身兼紀律委員就應該對自己的涉及紀律事件迴避我想這是一個基本的立衝的迴避原則那如果某黨的前任黨主席因為涉貪遭檢調調查司法審判那繼任的黨主席可不可以在立法院去質詢司法院或法務部長 |
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這個部分我不清楚因為前委員的問題不知道如何回答請你請回沒關係好 今天我要正式談的題目民進黨廢考間歡迎藍白根治廢紙錢應首發首先維持運作來 請教代理秘書長台灣第三次主辦APOR的年會經費哪裡來 |
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跟委員說明我們有關於April年會是放放在那個監察院114年的政法中央政府總預算案裡面那被誰刪除了立法院多數刪除了是好那副主席長我們剛剛也聽你解釋過了動用第二預配件的法源依據根據我們預算法下一頁 |
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第22條第二項立法院審議刪除或刪減之預算項目及金額不得同時預備金對不對對你剛剛有講了嘛但是後段但法定經費或經立法院同意者不再實現那請問今天我們是來問剛剛那一筆被刪除預算是法定經費或者要那一筆經費被立法院同意的才不再實現 |
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對 我們是要針對原先刪減然後現在是不是立法院同意讓我們動之所以立法院同意之後就可以嗎是好 謝謝 請回來 接下來大理秘書長是來 我們看一下下一頁 |
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這個看起來大家都有一點年紀在20年前有一個彩券廣告就是一個爸爸帶著小孩常常帶著小孩說喜歡嗎 爸爸買給你因為中了彩券什麼都有現在我們看到民眾黨就像被寵害的小孩要修憲就全靠這個父爸爸動不動就要國民黨支持他一廂情願的提案請問你知不知道修憲提案是國會過半數就有決定嗎 |
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並不是這樣,依照憲法申請條文第12條的規定要四分之三、四分之三我們來看一下現在在野黨,尤其是民眾黨的黨主席他說什麼 |
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要開始來修改要成立要修改憲法對不對廢除早已失去存在價值淪為酬勇養老與政治打手的監察院以完善國家憲政體制啟動我的憲政改革到徵修條文的第三條第四條第七條我們看到了他需要得到多少人連署要 |
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29個 那他現在有32個結果我們看了一下副爸爸給他多少個民眾黨8個 國民黨24個這24個當中有13個不需要面對罷免包括3加1的原住民委員包括部分區的委員以及包括像陳玉珍這種僥倖沒有被提罷免的結果13位不需要面對罷免的勇敢的來參加這個提案但是我們看到 |
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這個提案誰跑掉了王宏威這個面對罷免的委員說這不是藍白河案只開放個人連署誰連署了徐宇珍國民黨主發會的主委撤遷 |
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欸 主發會的主任撤遷 你不是不溫屈的嗎為什麼撤遷 因為可能擔心有案再生啊現在這個司法檢調單位在查衛照連署假冒冒名連署的 已經查到哪裡了查到國民黨主發會的副主任了欸 |
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所以怎麼樣 跑掉了 看下一頁所以我們看到了 剛剛那個就是什麼不怕死的碰到不知死活的還有11個不知死活的 面對罷免的在那邊聯合的提案來我們問一下 廢除監察院 朱立倫要改黨章嗎對不起 在您面前 你有沒有看過國民黨的黨章沒有 國民黨的黨章叫奉行五權憲法 |
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先把正確條文 剛剛說的四分三分三決你認為朱立民主席會同意修改國民黨黨章嗎我沒有辦法很難回答 因為你也不是國民黨黨員OK 好 我們看一下但是修憲委員會 民進黨始終監除廢稿間這是在110年第十屆的時候我們成立了修憲委員會而且我們要求刪除第六條 第七條將考證跟採用廢掉這些人包括柯建民 劉世芳跟蔡世應 |
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好 我們那個修憲組長是這樣 那你來猜猜看當年這個修憲提案 國民黨修憲委員有沒有參加不曉得 因為第十屆我在 我是修憲委員會的五個召集委員之一結果呢 修憲遇到廢考間修憲委員會 國民黨十四個委員 三次會議通通缺席不敢面對您覺得國民黨真心要廢除考試院檢察院嗎 |
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從歷史斑斑可考,你覺得他是真心的嗎?檢察院完全尊重修憲的程序好,檢察院完全尊重立法院的修憲委員會但是立法院自己的修憲委員會,藍委全部落跑,再下來我們看一下 |
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其實我想縱使目前你們人在監察院但是我們也可以去思考國家怎麼進步但是民進黨主張廢除監察院有配套人權保障不能少貪官污吏跑不掉首先目前國家人權會是不是在監察院裡面是的在2019年那如果監察院廢掉了你覺得國家人權會要不要繼續維持 |
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這是國家重要的一個機構 重要的機構 好再來我們目前監察院負責工作人員採訪申報對不對 是貪官污吏不能跑掉 申報機關是監察院監察院如果廢掉了 申報的機制要不要維持當然當然要維持 好 謝謝所以呢 結論我們看一下國民黨要挺白修憲啦 而且先問問中南海啊為什麼 因為修憲提案通過之後他經過中華民國自由地區人民投票 複決這是公民投票啊結果國台辦說什麼 |
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現在國台辦說台灣的人民不要罷免國民黨可是在2022年中共的發言人馬曉光說所謂的修憲公投根本就是為了修憲謀獨而鋪路造勢所以說國民黨要配合王國昌黨主席配合民眾黨去修憲要不要先問問中南海往下看 最後結論 |
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那林秘書長 為了維護我國國際聲譽 善盡會員義務 保障世界各國國會的權益你是不是同意也支持我們 盡速同意動之第二預備金是的 謝謝委員好 那也謝謝你們如果有認識國民黨員國民黨要費考試院 要費監察院 又要費監察院先修綱檔章 再來談修憲 謝謝好 接著請省劃會委員質詢 |