| IVOD_ID |
162890 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162890 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-3-20,36-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-26T09:44:18+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-26T09:53:49+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:31 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/1b546098ab7db5063cf95978a18fb7088be1699f4405fe9f4ee86841c083e3aaaa518cd20a1dc6235ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃國昌 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:44:18 - 09:53:49 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查行政院函為監察院114年度辦理「2025年第37屆澳紐及太平洋地區監察使年會暨人權國際研討會」所需經費不敷，請同意動支114年度中央政府總預算第二預備金750萬元支應案。） |
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好 謝謝主席 麻煩有請主計總處副主計長兼察院代理秘書長好 副主計長跟代理秘書長兩位好 先請教副主計長兼主計長請教去年6月3日通過原住民淨法補償每公頃調升到6萬元 |
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那這個法律通過了以後行政院一度有抗拒後來行政院院長找了朝野黨團的代表到行政院去開會做成一個決議說今年要透過辦理追加預算的方式來予以支應請問什麼時候要提出來目前在會診當中因為還有聯同其他的項目可能也會辦追加所以目前在會診當中什麼時候要提出來 |
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會診的時程我不是很確定 但是會盡快妳不是副主計長嗎是那誰知道 只有卓榮泰知道嗎不是 因為現在就是說針對總共要提追加的項目還在做最後確認當中所以什麼時候會提出來我們就我的了解可能看是不是這一兩個月吧回去喔 |
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提醒一下卓榮泰院長承諾的事要做到上一次總質詢的時候高精素美委員直接問行政院院長卓榮泰在那邊吱吱嗚嗚的到底要不要依照上次在行政院他召集各黨團的代表提追加預算不敢承諾回去提醒卓榮泰院長 |
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簽字的是他如果連這種簽字的卓榮泰都不認帳的話這個行政院院長講的話還有誰會相信可以嗎可以嗎可以回去轉告卓榮泰嗎辦理追加的部分我們會來處理會來處理嗎好說得非常好接下來請檢察院委員好 |
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之前啊監察委員包括秘書長違法濫用公務車啊輿論軒然大波上一次我在世華法治委員會請教你啊說李鴻鈞說要立即啟動調查啊立即是多立即結果你上次跟我說紀律委員會連開會的時間都沒有訂嘛好那現在呢紀律委員會終於訂了開會的時間了 |
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從五月底的立即到七月現在要開會了好那我們就來檢討一下之前有監委葉大華說啊這個是要怎麼調查這個是涉及事務要怎麼立案調查請問葉大華監委講的是對的嗎 |
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跟委員說明我上次也說明過其實在監察院的紀律委員會所處理的事務都是監察委員的涉及事務所以葉大法講的不對嗎這是委員的觀點第二個問題紀律委員會開會以前監察院有沒有確認過這七名紀律委員會的委員自己有沒有濫用公務車的情況 |
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你不要等到紀律委員會開會的時候啊被人家爆出來原來紀律委員會的委員自己也濫用公務車啊就難看了這件事情監察院有沒有先確認過紀律委員會開會的部分只要三分之二的我知道這個法定門檻我都知道我只是要問監察院確認過這七名紀律委員會的委員自己有沒有濫用公務車有確認過了嗎 |
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報告委員 這個不是法定程序這不是法定程序 那我就問嘛依照所謂監察院的法定程序紀律委員會的委員如果自己有濫用公務車的話他還可以針對這個紀律事項開會成為委員嗎紀律委員會也有迴避的規定也有迴避的規定嘛到目前為止7月要開會有沒有委員自己要迴避的 |
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就我所知目前是沒有的沒關係啊 我今天藉由公開的質詢啊是在提醒這紀律委員會七名委員啊想清楚啊不要到時候紀律委員會開會啊連紀律委員自己都被爆出來濫用公務車啊到時候就很難看了啦到時候就很難看了那接下來就有個問題啊紀律委員會處理的是監委嘛 對不對那祕書長咧 |
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跟委員說明就是上次我也說明過其實是台北地檢署這兩回事吧監察法的規定施行細則的規定你作為代理秘書長應該很清楚檢調是檢調監察院是監察院你們自己的施行細則就寫得很清楚了那我現在問題來了自立委員會只處理監委 |
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那秘書長處理不處理接下來監察院要怎麼辦我跟委員說明記憶委員會他們處理的方式有非常的多元處理的方式當然是多元嘛我現在先問你嘛我們依法論法記憶委員會處理的對象是不是限於監委還是包括秘書長 |
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原則上是處理監委是沒有錯你講原則上是監委有例外嗎可是就是如果因為紀律委員會也可以立案調查立案調查是只有紀律委員會才能立案調查還是一般的監委就可以立案調查紀律委員會也可以立案調查這是兩回事嘛紀律委員會我就說了他處理的對象是監委嘛那現在針對秘書長的部分 |
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410.996 |
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你們其他的監委有要立案調查嗎跟委員說明我們的新聞稿裡面也有提到到如果這個案件經過紀律委員會立案調查他的調查範圍他的調查事項完全要尊重調查委員的的框定這樣對啊但問題他的對象根本不一樣啊 |
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413.886 |
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442.793 |
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我有說錯嗎就是如果紀律委員會就是立案調查如果紀律委員會立案調查他的立案調查是經過監察院的同意去立案調查立案調查的時候不是啊你為什麼繼續啊在扯紀律委員會我搞不懂現在我問你對象是秘書長秘書長是紀律委員會要處理的範圍嗎這個問題有這麼難懂嗎你作為代理秘書長監察院自己主管的法規都不熟嗎 |
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我剛剛說明是說來我直接跟你講啦現在涉案的監委有三名喔他們自己針對其他的公務員濫用公務車他們提過彈劾案喔他們提過彈劾案喔他們自己去彈劾其他的公務員喔說這些公務員濫用公務車要被彈劾喔 |
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來 法規上監察委員可不可以被彈劾可以吧可以秘書長可不可以被彈劾可以辭職以後的秘書長可不可以被彈劾可以過去有沒有秘書長被彈劾過的有的有嘛我們現在喔 接下來全民睜大眼睛看監察委員自己濫用公務車去彈劾公務員濫用公務車 |
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501.008 |
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511.945 |
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這幾個監委到今天還賴在位子上我看的是瞠目結舌啦報告委員這幾個那他們是打算怎麼樣利用監察院的紀律委員會打算官官相護嗎 |
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這幾個彈劾案我們有了解一下有三個彈劾案都是有關於公務車使用的部分可是這三個彈劾案完全不是單單針對公務車的使用都有其他的所以什麼你現在急著開始幫這些監委開脫了這麼急喔委員我只是說明事實這麼急著開始幫他們開脫了全民都在看啊你們看時間上面要怎麼拖延 |
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最後結果終究是要出來的啦結果終究是要出來的啦我希望監察院不要把副院長對全民所做的承諾當成空爆彈好 謝謝 謝謝國昌委員接著我們請鍾嘉斌委員質詢 |