| IVOD_ID |
162849 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162849 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第27次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
27 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第27次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-25T09:57:59+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-25T10:08:42+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:43 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3c0085a4689617f5496c8dc63646e0dbd00eebfa22cd2c4c7cefc3e4f112f4f034f4092e8357e1c45ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
麥玉珍 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:57:59 - 10:08:42 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第27次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查委員王定宇等18人擬具「詐欺犯罪危害防制條例第五十四條條文修正草案」案。二、審查委員廖先翔等18人擬具「詐欺犯罪危害防制條例第四十三條條文修正草案」案。三、審查委員張宏陸等30人擬具「詐欺犯罪危害防制條例第四十七條條文修正草案」案。四、審查委員林宜瑾等27人擬具「詐欺犯罪危害防制條例第四十七條條文修正草案」案。五、審查委員王義川等16人擬具「詐欺犯罪危害防制條例第四十七條條文修正草案」案。六、審查委員陳素月等18人擬具「詐欺犯罪危害防制條例第四十七條條文修正草案」案。【第六案如未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書則不予審查。】） |
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謝主席 有請部長林惠豪 |
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部長好我們今天審查的是詐欺犯危害防治條例最近有一個很誇張的案例我們想請諮詢一下台南有一個就是假借總統乾兒子的名義詐財商議員已經就是 |
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在台南安平區已經落網所以要請教一下我們這位嚴大軍通緝期間你們有沒有成立重大射陣詐騙專案或有的話是不是開始打詐了嗎 有這樣子的還是說因為他是通緝在6月11號在我們的 |
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機場就把它留下來所以呢到最後就把它輕輕的就把它放回去所以這個是怎麼回事可以請教一下嗎 |
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委員首先這個我們所了解的這個嫌犯不是總統的乾兒子他宣稱假借他不是總統的乾兒子因為我在台南服務很久那第二部分他的這個詐騙的方式跟我們一般現在的詐騙是不一樣的他這一般的這個詐欺的就是我們刑法詐欺罪裡面的這些的詐欺跟現在的這個實行這個 |
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不管是在有機房啦有水房這些的炸樹炸片的方法是不一樣的他是屬於一般的這個炸氣 |
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一般詐欺就上議員了所以我現在是說不是說他讓你來分析詐欺的形式我們要讓你說這個詐欺詐欺已經通緝在6月11號在機場已經扣留了但是還是放他就是放他出來所以我們就是詐欺打議員就是明顯就是說這個詐欺集團的指標人物 |
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但是你們在境內還讓他潛逃那麼久是誰在包庇沒有人包庇這個案件我目前了解現在是生壓已經壓起來了 |
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就是因為我們有媒體在問啊有媒體在爆料才會去生壓嘛所以在機場的時候沒有其他壓起來就把它放出去了所以我們就覺得懷疑啦是不是說 |
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當然是沒有爬出去才抓下來的嘛 本來就是6月11號在機場機場就應該就把他抓起來了 但是你們就把他綁出去兩週內 還會把他就是因為呢就是因為他真二代 所以再抓起了3億元所以在境內就是 後面就是因為太多媒體在逼問了 |
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我們一定是依法執行啦,不會去做這些的,我們一定是依法執行依法執行我們就問的是說為什麼已經是通緝犯,在6月11號不給他出境就趕快扣留啦通緝沒有通緝啊,通緝一定是他有做境管才會查得到為什麼如果他出去了呢,現在他落網了嘛有境管就不會跑出去啊 |
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我儘管就不會跑出去了沒辦法出去就把他扣留料來去查嘛你們還把他放出去沒有放啊沒有放還在我們境內兩週一兩週內才抓起來所以我們覺得說 |
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他可以打折這樣子的總統的名義,招搖撞騙還有就是我們市長還要幫他背書,就是在這樣子的一個有背景的通緝法所以呢你們根本就不敢碰他,所以我們人民才是可憐啦我們是依法沒有說不敢碰啦,沒有這個問題啦 |
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沒有這個問題到現在為止到現在為止已經因為在報紙一直在登你們才要去抓他所以我們是要請教一下我們用的打炸2.0用了200億 |
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兩百億來去說要一個打仗但是呢這個是打著總統名義的招搖撞騙就是因為新聞再來去抓所以說我們請問一下這樣兩百億的預算打仗到現在在哪裡我們的預算花在哪裡去了 |
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所以剛才有委員說我們署裡面的這個預算只有五十幾億而且都是在建置基礎的工作這個兩百億不是我們這邊的不是你們這邊的兩百億就是在這個是你們的預算裡面的還有說我覺得這個很好剛才我們蘇小蕙覺得說這個是不好我覺得這個很好因為你們宣傳不夠才把這個讓我們人民知道要警惕 |
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我們每天都是被騙那麼多我們是要讓大家看到這一些就是說我們沒有抓到我們就被騙那麼多一天就被騙那麼多讓更多的人民看到說警惕因為你們宣傳不夠這個才是真正的讓大家警惕 |
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不是把你們說我可以拿回多少錢 這個是做秀 這個是警惕讓宣傳更好我覺得是這個不錯的 讓更多人看到說原來一天我們的打炸的中心就會用200億 |
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去設一個打炸來讓更多一天讓人家可以被炸那麼多這個就是你們的績效所以我們希望說我們在200億中有多少用在基層就是查記查記的與人力的補充還有多少流向公關的宣傳招標的系統標案外包我們這個是不是這個詳細的內容可不可以給我們 |
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所以我們不能用就是百分之幾像你說的那種模糊所以我們希望說我們有那麼多預算我們留下在哪裡這個民視可不可以給我 |
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我們的這個預算可以啊 可以給委員啊沒有 我是說要的是說我們的公開宣傳 還有招標的系統 還有標案外包這些的是那我沒問題啊 就是對於這些公開的信息我們當然都會給 |
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好這樣子就希望我們這邊要給我們我們希望就是說我們全國的政策為什麼地方基層都說警力長長就是沒人沒設備所以這個部分我們也希望說我們的政策不是在行政院在我們內政部記者會上的有效我們不要讓大家說政府花了200億 |
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在打仗讓人民一天被騙了兩億這樣子打仗的效果所以我們說拿了這樣的預算我們希望說我們的這個費用的流向還有具體我們打仗的成果 |
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所以不是說我們看到這樣你們的成果也要讓給我們知道所以我們希望的這個打炸不是來欺騙人民的是真真的是落實的所以我們不要讓這個200億是白花啦 |
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我們的目標是這樣所以明年我們的預算又要開始了所以我們希望我們的預算進來的時候有一份就是完整的報告我們打造的成果還有我們的預算的明細所以這個部分我們希望就是我們的內政部還有警政署這邊給我們一份這樣子全部的明細OK嗎 |
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可以啊 公開進行就沒問題好 最後一分鐘因為現在越來越嚴重我們的台版柬埔寨不是在境外的問題了現在就是本土詐騙 詐騙集團綁架 |
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拘禁國人逼迫交出帳戶還有導致跳樓還有很多致死的這件事情我們不能裝不見我們希望我們的警政署就是對這樣子的空置型的詐騙射點還有掌握度有多少還有我們內部的清查的報告有幾個被害家屬就是報案後還在拖延變成就是釀成這樣子的死亡 |
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所以我們今天講的不是政治口水我希望的就是把這個真正的讓人民看到讓人民看到我們就是不要讓看到的就是說你們的統計讓大家覺得說一天被騙了兩億所以我們人民真的很可憐 |
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很可憐這樣子的不要讓我們的青少年變成就是免洗筷所以我們希望說我們要求就是把打詐的預算明細公開成效的指標透明還有建立對青少年的那個車手高風險失蹤人口的預警系統還有對 |
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政商背景的詐騙案要全面追查不得關說也不得姑息因為只要政府一日從容人民就是一日無法安心所以我們希望這個我們的部長跟署長要把這些資料給我可以嗎可以好謝謝 |