| IVOD_ID |
162843 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162843 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-25T11:27:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-25T11:37:49+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:21 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3c0085a4689617f5fc18d98c4bd1fbe8137b1f10ec760e8b2e30616ee03c0ffc86b9718f63e7223e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林俊憲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:27:28 - 11:37:49 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：邀請交通部部長、交通部鐵道局局長、交通部觀光署署長、國營臺灣鐵路股份有限公司董事長及台灣高速鐵路股份有限公司董事長率所屬相關單位列席就「交通部觀光署、國營臺灣鐵路股份有限公司及台灣高速鐵路股份有限公司人事調整及新任首長之業務展望」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【若開會當日交通部觀光署新任署長尚未就任，該署部分另擇期排案】） |
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好 感謝主席本席邀請我們交通部陳部長好 交通部陳部長還有我們高鐵石董事長好 高鐵石董事長石董事長委員好部長好 董事長好跟大家討論一下我要特別提出我們高鐵台南站的問題 |
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大家知道現在高鐵在台灣各站運量增加幅度最多的就是進出站的人數成長最多的台南不是排第一就是排第二以去年來講2024年高鐵進站出站人數的成長比例台南都第二 |
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在前一年高鐵到站人數成長最多就是台南所以台南一年現在進出站人數大概有破千萬增加非常快速這當中主要因為台南這幾年產業發展非常快速現在除了有南科以外而且南科已經成長到產值遠遠超過竹科 |
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那在接下來台南還會更發展這個現在國家在我們高鐵特區就我們台南站周邊的高鐵特區現在的科學園區也確定設立目前為止就有相當多的單位進駐在我們高鐵特區 |
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甚至有很多的商業設施 公共設施 住宅區我們大台南會展中心 產業研發專區資策會的資安和智慧科技的研發大樓綠能科技示範場域 中研院的南部院區還有沙崙醫療服務創新園區台灣智慧駕駛實驗室 這我們交通部的單位 |
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還有台灣智慧綠能循環的住宅園區像澳內甚至有陽明交大都在這附近未來會更發展因為媒體的報導南科市集也是設在這個地方也設在高鐵特區預計台積電將會進駐台積電光是它的廠區就至少用地需求500公頃 |
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那未來整個園區的從業人數將會從目前的一萬人漸減到十萬人所以高鐵附近周邊甚至在高鐵就在這個園區裡面這會是全世界最重要的半導體高科技生產園區國家最重要的尖端各項科技的研發園區 |
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都在這個地方所以高鐵台南站會成為台南甚至世界的門戶因為我們的科技廠商會有很多的往來來自世界各地的這種商務互相的交流等等所以我們也發現高鐵站的台南站現在完全不服使用 |
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保長我特別要請我們董事長 施董事長要來了解這個問題你現在剛上任我希望你要注意到第一個你目前的高鐵的量體像我要比較一下六都啦六都的高鐵站就台南最小 |
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台南小到台南跟嘉義高鐵站是1比1啦就一樣大小所以台南的高鐵站不是一個直轄式規格的一個設計那用量我實在說已經幾乎快要爆掉了你看投行投行的進駐站人數是台南1.8倍 |
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桃園在機場一年全北部出入台南1.8倍但樓地板面積是台南的3.4倍桃園站 台南站底他們出入台南的1.8倍但桃園站 |
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台中進出人數是台南2.5倍但台中的戰體面積是台南的4倍 4倍大你再來看左營 |
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中央出入人數是台南的兩倍啦但他的左營暫停喔 也台南的2.5倍啦好 就算跟嘉義來比啦來啦 董事長啊嘉義一年六百幾百人出入啦 台南破一千萬台南進駐站人數一年比嘉義多四百多萬但是台南的暫停跟嘉義一樣大欸 你一年多四百幾百人出入喔啊你自己的暫到嘉義變大 |
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給4票基本人會造成什麼狀況第一個 公共設施嚴重不足台南站 上下越台 只有一個守護梯 一上一下我們再來看公設設施 東有2座 台中4座如果以整個守護梯數給大家看 桃園12 台中10 台南只有6 左雲有20 |
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對不對 我們說扁手啦高鐵站啊 你要看到從廁所裡面排到外面像台南站你看得到啦 那個扁手完全不夠用喔我怎麼看得到那個扁手在裡面排的可能有啦 排到外面來這很難看啦 連廁所使用都嚴重的不足啦 |
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尤其未來啦 像我說的 如果你南哥市集啊台積電來 周邊廠商也來那個用地 光產業使用面積大概就將近一千公頃十萬個人啊 你的站體絕對會爆掉啦所以我希望高鐵要超前部署啦萬一幫施董事長 你要注意到這個事情 |
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那一樣我們的門戶世界最重要的高科技門戶就在台南使用一定是高鐵為優先那這樣沒有辦法你以前把附近蓋那麼小還可以體諒因為你涉戰當時台南可能還不是直轄市 |
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所以那個地方 當地的地方叫蘇阿倫啦聽這個名字就知道大概比較偏遠的地方啦是不是那你知道高鐵站旁邊有一個很特殊的單位台南監獄你知道嗎隔地上的旁邊有一個台南監獄啊我看在座幾乎沒有人知道台南監獄車程如果開車到台南高鐵站喔差不多兩分鐘就到了旁邊有設一個高鐵站啦 |
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那台南監獄設在那個地方叫什麼叫台地處啦你知道看那以前多偏僻以前高齡戰陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣陣 |
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所以我認為台南站有必要要擴展你一定要把它擴充至少以目前的公設 廁所 上架手扶梯 電扶梯都嚴重的不足我們請兩位發表一下意見 |
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報告委員目前委員所提到的這個基礎設施的不足先不要講面積啦基礎設施的不足這個部分可能我會請高鐵公司趕快做研究我想石董事長也都有掌握這個部分我們先來做研究那第二就是暫體的擴大的部分這個部分要跟台南市政府大家也來討論因為他當時的督設省的部分有沒有一些限制那該怎麼去解套我覺得現在是值得討論的時候了啦 |
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像委員所說的人已經這麼多了我們現在有發現幾個站包含新竹站也大概有類似的問題當時的規劃跟現在實際的用量其實有些落差那當時國家在設定高鐵的時候也不知道人數會這麼多也跟委員報告未來台南只會更多人只會更多所以我們要提早來因應那這個部分石董事長應該也都有掌握是不是請石董事長來說明一下 |
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謝謝委員我想這個今天沙崙能夠發展成這樣子的一個值日可待而且大家羨慕的未來事實上跟高鐵扮演一個人才流通力很重要的因素但是它的發展超乎我們的預期所以委員在提示之後我們也來逐步來檢討我想可能要分短中長來處理短期的部分可能就是委員特別提到比如像廁所啦暫停的基本服務我覺得應該要跟上這個我們來想辦法 |
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那中層的部分可能我們要來跟台南都市計畫的部分要來合作增加樓立板面積這才有可能增加它的整個服務的機能那長遠的話當然就是委員剛剛講當它造成一個10萬人的就業人口的時候那可能就是一個另外整個新的所以我們希望能夠超前部署現在就應該要開始規劃未來好不好是 謝謝好 那謝謝部長也謝謝董事長謝謝委員 |