| IVOD_ID |
162775 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162775 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-23T10:53:05+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-23T11:04:48+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:43 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b58c4cf52db2e91a23abdbb9dd60b4cbb85017248ed72d8dda6ae3643212cc5f739ca4563886b2115ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:53:05 - 11:04:48 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員會主任委員、交通部首長及國家科學及技術委員會首長就「因應高齡化社會，我國智慧公共運具發展及目標」進行報告，並備質詢。【6月23日及6月25日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席我是不是請經濟部國部長國部長然後還有國科會國科會書副主委 |
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昨天我看了一下CNN跟BBC對美國針對伊朗核設施的空襲我今天特別注意伊朗的議會已經通過可能要對赫姆斯海峽進行封鎖可能還要經過安全會議 |
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假如一旦封鎖,當然我們的這個天然氣來源國應該是以澳洲第一澳洲差不多三、四萬再來應該是加拿大,再來美國,再來巴布亞、紐西蘭差不多是這樣,如果我們記錯數字所以加拿大差不多要減三、四、兩、三、七左右那荷姆斯海峽如果一封鎖 |
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對我們田園企業的接收、供應會造成影響嗎?當然是會影響啦現在我們就是有在前一星期就開始針對這些情形來做一些這個 simulation那這些情境的分析啊那麼我們可能就是可能會在現貨市場裡面去取得一些協助啦 |
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那雖然現在是已經方法有很多啦那可能抱歉在這個地方我不便跟這個對 因為它是這個最近的供應國啦譬如說你澳洲 巴布亞 紐西蘭 再來美國美國未來它的佔比現在是10%左右美國未來會不會提升天然氣採購的佔比 |
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當然未來美國應該是會我們調高天然氣購買來源的一個非常重要的一個關鍵 |
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所以在目前的這個狀況之下我們估計會目前是百分之十左右未來對美國天然氣的比例比重大概會到什麼樣的一個規模我們大概我們希望說能夠到達這個穩定的狀況這個很抽象穩定的狀況對就是穩定因為這個其實跟委員報告這種東西都是動態的 |
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這個市場裡面一定是狀態他新聞來看 新聞來看應該是中東比較雙是不是這樣他新聞來看 美俄洲比巴布尼亞比美國這新聞來看 應該是中東比較雙所以我們這樣卡他 才不會這樣我們三峽左右所以我要提醒經濟部如果說一旦荷姆斯被封鎖讓三峽位卡他出來這個天然氣供應 你們可能要做有一些因應的方案 |
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我們都有這個因應的方案所以不會造成天然氣供應因為這個赫姆斯海峽封鎖而造成影響會有一些影響啦但是我們 我想 我知道這個委員的關注的部分我們有交代 交期不能夠影響 |
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所以我們可以調整,譬如說他要去保障的生活人員,這都可以調整他要給保障的人也是要為他卡他出來 |
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我們當然可以尋求對澳洲或對美國增加經濟衛生來支援 |
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我是說確定要供應不會造成說我們天然氣供應的不足或者造成因為這可能會是一個長期的效應不知道說它會豐收多久可是它要豐收一年我們本來是三十萬卡拉出來沒辦法出來這影響很大我們這也是有變成五百年 |
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只要經濟部我相信經濟部有相關的因應方案那現在永安天然氣LNG廠現在當然天然氣進來你要擴大天然氣儲存量 要建儲槽我希望這個部分可能終於要去跟這個地方多做溝通我想這個地方上在永安是反對聲音還蠻大的我覺得要多做溝通 |
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至於說前幾天在永安的說明會,我覺得地方上是一致性的強烈反對 |
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我們都可以了解這個國人的這些擔心但是我們會在就像委員講的這個我們希望能夠多溝通讓國人都知道這個天然氣它的排碳是現在的這個燒煤的你要借一個除潮就是安全性的一定要地方有共識要當地的這個市民支持 |
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否則我作為當地的民意代表作為立法委員我覺得我電視上好讓地方的聲音那他們來跟我申請他們說明說目前出朝還是有安全之餘但是你要多做溝通啦所以多做溝通我如果你們取得當地這個我們市民的同意我當然是無條件支持所以謝謝委員支持 |
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因為過去這個除潮是在地下這幾點我都知道地下跟地上差異在哪裡 安全係數有沒有多少變化可能要多做幾次溝通那另外就是說為什麼要請蘇政剛蘇副主委白埔產業園區是過去我跟經濟部爭取作為傳統產業園區 |
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現在市政府當然很積極希望說把北高雄這個橋頭跟岡山變成一個宜居然後高科技然後健康的一個城市所以北高雄外山坑外橋頭外到岡山是未來我有一個夢想要把它打造成高雄市的這個岡橋副都心 |
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富多基你要完善的入網你要完善的這個醫療設施你要有這個環境也很好然後這個宜居然後交通又方便然後另外就有產業產業就是高科技嘛產業進駐就會有機會所以白布產業園區我們希望說能夠爭取到這個TSMC啊能夠在考慮在這地方設廠這個有硫化物的問題嗎 |
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我想個別廠商的設廠他有針對製程的條件不一他會關心很多種不同的相關的周邊的條件那剛剛邱委員所提示的其實非常正確也就是說相關的產業業績在開發的時候我們在串聯整個南台灣的產業狼帶的時候會考量到九大配套措施包含生活機能交通這個都會一起來放一起來納入考量 |
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TSMC社長有他的專業考量有他們公司的這個相關的專業判斷但是地方政府的支持地方政府的這個這個協助也很重要但是中央也要協助地方政府啦齁所以地方政府要合作來跟台積電說明這是一個好的地方啦我是說我每天在那齁 |
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這比我國家好一點好一點應該是很好的一個地方我是拜託國客會跟經濟部可以再跟TSMC去考量去說明這是一個他們選項之一我認為一定要放在那裡選項之一啦如果有國客會跟這個經濟部推薦他們會覺得會有更多的意願所以今天我們拜託國務部長和書副主委 |
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另外交通部的部分今天林市長高齡者開車駕車安全性是所有高齡者必須去重視的問題但你不要忽略一個問題的重點在哪裡問題本是說都會區跟非都會區年長者 |
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使用運具的這個習慣是不一樣因為工具會產生他們的這個使用習慣好 都會區它有很多選項班次密集 有捷運 有公車路網 對不對它不需要騎摩托車 它不需要自己開車它可以很便利 很方便 很安全到哪一場去的地方但是非都會區 比方說高雄市北邊它雖然有捷運 但只有這一條 |
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很多區域都需要自己開車或騎摩托車所以你要考慮到這個區域的差別對這些年長者他們使用應居的需求跟標準以及協助你要有不同的思維 你不要疑似同仁是 委員講的是重點 確實如此你要針對非度位區這些長者他沒有其他的選擇 他一定要開車他一定要騎摩托車 |
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現在他們子女可能在出外上班沒有辦法在家裡他必須靠自己 |
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這種情況之下他沒有公共交通運輸可以選擇的時候怎麼辦呢委員您講的是重點如果沒有公共運輸他勢必要自行開車或家人接送那自行開車的過程我們這個制度並不是不讓他開車我們是要他在75歲或是我理解這種需求會對非都會區的長者會更為需求強度會更強確實 |
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所以你跟他們有更多的政策上的協助配套的措施讓他們可以安心的開車所以這部分這個應該是行政部門跟交通部要去做一個完整的規劃我想把這個問題點出來讓交通部門能夠理解最後這個幾個計畫都是交通平權交通平權就是縣市的平權然後都會區跟非都會區也要平權 |
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673.591 |
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這個建設這幾都是北高雄為公共運輸能夠強化讓這些長者不用自己開車騎到拜所以現在五省 省省差不多5.09億現在還在報道交通部在誰我希望交通部能夠全力支持 |
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674.892 |
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698.42 |
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這個清單我都把你列出來的有 委員我想待會我會把這清單再請次長去了解一下我們部門跟公務局會你們再跟高雄市政府交通局再做溝通好不好這些都是針對非都會區怎麼樣去改善這個交通平權怎麼樣讓非都會區的長者能夠安全的駕駛是 每個地方有特定的議題所以我們歸納來處理好 謝謝委員好 謝謝 |