| IVOD_ID |
162766 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162766 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-23T10:11:19+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-23T10:22:52+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:33 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b58c4cf52db2e91a381277a7216f2459b85017248ed72d8db1c1f5e093a47950109c112c25b928345ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:11:19 - 10:22:52 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員會主任委員、交通部首長及國家科學及技術委員會首長就「因應高齡化社會，我國智慧公共運具發展及目標」進行報告，並備質詢。【6月23日及6月25日二天一次會】） |
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好 主席我們請那個國發會副主委還有交通部次長詹副主委 林次長好 兩位好委員好今天的議題這個非常重要因高齡化社會這個是我們確實是一個非常高齡然後又是一個少子女化非常非常嚴重 |
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今天國發會的報告裡面特別提到整合公司資源提升偏鄉運輸生活體驗這個中間階段裡面 |
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例如交通部公務及以台東縣政府啟動TTGO花東溫馨接送EA媒體服務透過煤核機制整合在地巴士、計程車、租賃車及企業公益車輛等多元 |
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運具的支援補貼民眾車資提供點到點的接駁到載的服務這個政策很好重點是這個漏水的問題第一個這個部分已經那時候是為了因應地震之後然後提出的這樣的一個很好的一個方案但是現在已經已經調整了 |
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你自己的報告裡面解決目前台東地區的運輸需求缺口只有談到台東了本來是花東對不對花東溫馨接受所以這個部分 |
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這個現在只有台東偏鄉交通最後一里路了所以這個部分是一個資訊互相交通部跟國發會的資訊要互相的交通部的報告裡面提到這個 |
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公路總級以192個鄉鎮共493條路線,包含62個偏鄉239條路線,推動其中幸福巴士以通車共97個鄉鎮區,共326條路線,含53個偏鄉196條路線,幸福小房以通車95個鄉鎮區, |
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共167條路線含9個偏鄉共43條路線全國偏鄉第7公路公共運輸含概率達94.4%這個交通部啊 社長啊這個這樣的寫法這個好像這個績效非常非常的棒這樣子含概率達到94.4% |
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真的是這樣嗎所以尤其是就偏鄉來講我們是偏鄉我們偏鄉的一看這個不是這樣嘛對不對如果我們光看你的那個幸福小黃含9個偏鄉就9個而已嘛對不對然後呢那個你的那個幸福84含53個偏鄉我們偏鄉還不止這些嘛然後偏鄉 |
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這個也有很多不同的那個如果是以我們村與村之間部落與部落之間那根本就沒有啊所以這個部分涵蓋率達到94.4%這個用詞還是要去注意了需要回應嗎 |
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基本上偏鄉的定義是根據內政部的定義我知道這個我知道我是老公務員知道沒關係您的意思就是說可能偏鄉一個區一條線靠過去也算一個所以我想我們還是以他的普及力來看就我們來說是一個非常不可思議的沒有啊哪裡有對不對 |
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會產生這樣的一個好我們就講這個幸福巴士27條路線當然這個是你們的努力包括縣政府我們共同的一起去推動都是要肯定的該肯定的我們要肯定好我們看這個幸福小黃事實上幸福小黃的政策是應該積極加強的推動為什麼呢 |
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這個幸福巴士因為它畢竟它不是每個小時對不對所以反而是幸福小黃會更貼切人民的需要尤其是長者的需要尤其是這個非常弱勢的需要我們看這個花蓮縣幸福小黃你看最下面的查無資料 |
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對不對?系統上查護資料我們確實是沒有啊好我們看這個台東縣幸福小行有啊部分成功延頻 |
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還差很遠最需要的偏鄉還是有差的一個很大很大的落差就舉這兩個例子所以這個我們要努力的地方還很多還是需要非常非常的要去加油當然經費就是一個問題經費所以國發會要支持 |
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對不對 你要整體的一個政策然後經費的這個提供都是需要國發會來去預祝所以這個部分要繼續努力 好不好好 我們看這個時間的關係今天台鐵票價 今天開始漲價 |
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這個是對我們偏鄉整個花蓮縣台東縣而言這個偏鄉又是一個非常非常嚴重的一個問題所以今天開始漲價我們看這個 |
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交通部交通部所提出來的花東會員過票點數是透過會員我們今天的主題是什麼高齡者對不對高齡者就沒有會員沒有加入會員對不對高齡者我們今天的主題高齡會員都沒有 |
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對不對 如何去想得到這樣的一個會員的點數 沒有嘛所以這個部分就是一個要去處理的部分本事業曾經建議我們現在就UV很多都會去就學就業的 |
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你現在只有現在花蓮台東的戶籍在那邊的但是在花東就學就業的他要回去就沒有啊對不對然後呢他的戶籍不在花蓮台東但是在花蓮東華大學就學到台東大學就學的也沒有啊所以這個在花蓮台東工作的好不容易他希望到台東工作把人留下來結果也沒有 |
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所以涉及到还是经费国家会副主委还是涉及到还是经费请问一下次长你知道这个你现在的政策花工会员购票点数这个优惠经费从哪里来包园台铁的部分我们这一部分有一部分是从TPAS这边来 |
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那個 那另外有些是花東對 票收去回饋花東基金的部分我跟您報告啊那個不是只有UV都可以因為只要涉及在花東的都可以所以不是只有UV出生在花東你弄錯我的意思了現在的 你們的規定現在的規定是第二個 |
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花蓮縣台東縣附籍在那邊的只有附籍在那邊現在你看你現在的是只有也不是第二點的就是你現在的只有附籍在花蓮縣跟台東縣的才可以 |
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然後我的公文是要建議擴大要擴大的意思了是這個意思所以這個公文因為你的目前的做法就是只有針對戶籍跟戶籍在花蓮縣跟台東縣的我的意思是要擴大的意思而經費之前我也執行過國發會希望用花東基金因為 |
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你要交通部臨時找這些錢也很難啦然後也不應該有台鐵來吸收啦也不應該有他所以我才說用花東基金既然是要用花東基金那個交通部就不要給限收在富吉在花蓮跟台東的因為你以前的政策是什麼呢你的那個乘車的政策就是 |
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副UV都算精細啊所以這個部分是要請重點還是錢嘛還是經費請謝謝這個這個國發會副主委一直點頭點頭就是同意對不對不要搖頭不要搖頭 |
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跟委員報告 謝謝委員的指導您提到花東基金的部分因為這個可能還要跟花蓮跟台東縣政府他們都贊成據我們了解好像他們有一些意見所以這部分是不是花東基金的部分可能還要再跟他們討論這也先跟委員報告我非常清楚花東基金從我當立委那年開始的 |
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102年開始的所以有部分是屬於屬於中央中央去調配的那個部分呢有沒有有嗎中央調配的那個部分有地方政府負責的也有中央負責的那個部分好不好好謝謝好謝謝林一林委員 |