| IVOD_ID |
162754 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162754 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-36-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
21 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-23T09:16:34+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-23T09:27:46+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:12 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b58c4cf52db2e91a1c707150a70d99d47f2aef3382ea3fb05c7fa28b96d4b42c0d2386bbdc16c9535ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王義川 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:16:34 - 09:27:46 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第21次全體委員會議（事由：邀請法務部部長、法務部矯正署署長、司法院及衛生福利部就「現行獄政與受刑人處遇機制之制度檢討」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝主席 我們請次長跟這個署長 謝謝健保 健保委員長 委員長 |
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我先請教這個我們健保署這個受刑人的健保費啊如果是依附在家屬下就是家屬繳了嘛那如果什麼都沒有了就欠錢 |
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我們這個如果真的是繳不出來的我們有一些這個協處機制那麼包含這個愛心專款啦不然如果它仍然有能力繳的那麼我們有六類看看它本來它怎麼會有能力繳 要關在裡面 |
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他自己如果有收入的時候,矯正機關有一個補助的機制可以嗎?對啊,可是那個錢應該都不多啊,我的意思是說如果他也沒什麼能力繳嘛那家人也不讓他依附在下面嘛,他可能出獄的時候就先欠你錢 |
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因為現在在收容的時候就會改類變成第四類第二目第四類第二目的話那矯正機關會協助我們有編預算來處理這一塊那法務部會再跟當事人吹角嗎沒有 這個已經改列了改列了所以在這個署長你講那個健保的有一些跟錢有關的會是怎樣 |
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喔 那是服務費 就是說他的健保費沒有問題繳了 那個保費啦但是在接受服務的時候 要給我部分負擔一般的民眾都有部分負擔 阿姨主要是部分負擔的部分繳不出來阿這要修喔 那就沒錢了 你再修阿這依法就是要用啦 阿所以我們是希望說喔 能夠...他整天一直跟醫生說 阿姨不要給我開到那個部分負擔 |
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那這個費用就變成欠健保囉?這個法務部就不處理了嗎?我是不是請那個署長,財政署署長來跟我們說明報告一下 |
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報告委員我們法務部有編列大概14億多就是健保費用那至於是說部分負擔就像民眾一樣可能掛號費是150然後部分負擔是50塊就是交個200塊那他如果是說掛號費或是部分負擔他繳不出來 |
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其實這個是小額的他如果是弱勢團體 其實我們有相關的相關的弱勢團體的補助 包括一般民眾 |
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經濟困難的我們會有補助公益金也好或是醫院也有一些社會福利金但是我們還可以協助他向健保申請分期繳納或是申請貸款如果他欠的比較多的話 |
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提這個目的啊 是有些這個受刑人嘛 他就要改過自新啊嘛啊 過去一年他就要被抓了嘛 被抓也舉目無親嘛 妻離子散啦嘛他也沒有收入都沒有啊 結果他走出那個監獄的時候 他就欠人家錢啊他現在欠的是政府啊 我的意思是這樣 有可能嘛齁 |
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他出獄之後我們就有這個協處方案在我們各分區他都有一些這個經濟弱勢者困難的這個協助分期付款或補助都有好那這個兩位署長請回好謝謝市長請問一下這個受刑人在監獄裡頭可以接受大學教育嗎 |
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有 我們今天報告有提到好 那接受大學教育就是空中大學的嘛那科系自己選對不對那請問這些人怎麼交報告啊 |
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這個細節的部分我們是不是還是請署長這邊來跟我們說一下 不好意思就是說他一來在 可能也不可以用網路嘛他如果要教報告 他要怎麼用是 報告委員 像這種參加空大的他本身可能一般來講 那個學習的期間會延長 |
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所以他們也是按照空大相關要提的報告 他們還是會來提只是他可能寫的學分也好 或是他能夠有的時間我知道 可是因為他寫報告他不能上網啊他也可以用其他的方式啦 當然是不能上網沒有其他方式 監獄裡面三位都沒有啊 他們要搞報告 |
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我們相關的他寫的那個專業歌目比如說相關的參考資料他也是可以取得到的啊不一定是要用網路網路所以他們就是相關的資料取得之後他可以提交書面這是沒有問題的我知道啦那這個來來次長這署長這樣講你看現在大學生啊寫報告沒上網是要怎麼寫 |
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就直接只看老師給的教科書跟講義這樣就能夠寫期末報告這很難吧 |
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因為上網涉及到很多監獄管理的問題所以可能也未必適合說因為還有在就學就全面來開放所以這個部分可能我們再研議看看就是說這個接受大學教育因為他不是只有背書或者是只有翻課本 |
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那如果他這個老師空大老師上課的方式希望學生交報告那顯然給他的這個參考資料啊就要更完整啊不然他英文就是老師一本書交講義然後隔著螢幕聽老師上課然後最後他就能夠交出報告這個對一般大學生來說啊這個聽起來是不可思議 |
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是 我們再請蔣介石來研議就是說專門對於有這個上進學習的需求的部分看怎麼樣來處理就是來協助他們啦來協助他們報告委員 我們空袋有兩種一種是協婚班一種是協志班就是大家可以拿到協士那一般協婚班他 |
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也比較簡單他就相關的資料搜尋好寫書面報告之後他就提交給我知道啦他就沒辦法搜尋他協志班因為他可能還有其他的活動作業所以他可能會比一般民眾 |
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478.076 |
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他的演習時間要拉長他們都很樂意可以拿到在執行又可以拿到學位他們也很樂意會用工去收集最後一個是請教一下我們的受刑人如果有身心障礙你們這個處遇機制裡頭有一個分數叫做作業 |
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他可能要出來做一些東西嘛那他這個如果身心障礙這家都沒辦法那這個分數他怎麼得報告委員我們有所謂的和還儲益 |
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對於那種比較嚴重一點的我們會給他一個優待在作業方面因為他事實上沒有達到沒有辦法達到那麼高的效率但是我們基於人權的考量會有所謂的合環處一各機關會把這些相關適合合環處一的報到我們署裡面我們署裡面會來核准 |
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所以這個他的作業分數的計算可能就跟一般的壽星人不一樣會打八折他可以打折啦可以打八折責任分數責任分數就變少嘛會變少所以他得到的分數扣過去就分數會比較高一點嘛 |
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554.636 |
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那剛剛這個次長報告的時候有提到啊什麼收音機啦我請教一下我們現在的受刑人在裡頭啊到底可不可以看電視台啊這個應該細節給他講那應該我就據我的了解是有好那可不可以看爭論節目啊 |
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包括那個委員如果有一些有所謂的進鑑的方面我們會參考法官進鑑的內容如果他有說政論節目不行或是跟他相關有關的消息不行我們那個是不會給他看那個台的一般是可以一般是可以那就是幾台可以看幾台 |
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591.85 |
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這個幾台可能就不一定吧每個地區的台數不一樣所以我們可以看幾點 |
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612.254 |
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一般我們沿著上這種是大概九點就熄燈但是在六日可能會延長一個小時到十點才熄燈但是前提是不能開大聲音響有的是聽耳機不要吵到別人那他九點以後繼續看也不會有事啊 |
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636.469 |
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主管會去糾正他早點睡覺生火作息主管會去糾正他但是假日他可以延長一點所以大部分都只有那個進鑑的進鑑的話就是在這一方面會管制會管制 進鑑會管制那其他的就是處遇的這個分手有高那就會讓他看 |
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638.028 |
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658.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
對我們的階級處理現在都比較朝向人道化剛剛提到那個電視嘛電視原來是4級就可以但是收音機要3級我們在113年已經函試了這個因為這個之前是35年訂定那時候沒有電視那時候只有留聲機 |
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659.751 |
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669.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
所以留生機它變成是三級可以持有留生機那這些相關的機制你們再加速來處理好不好你們不是說你們要檢討嘛對不對好那謝謝 |