| IVOD_ID |
162711 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162711 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-3-36,15-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制、內政委員會第3次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制、內政委員會第3次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-19T10:28:19+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-19T10:37:47+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:28 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/19817250edeb8a73cb06b3a649087bc9c914d80f272b5bb4fe48e1f12328ce2489bdc5088dcae9335ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王美惠 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:28:19 - 10:37:47 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制、內政委員會第3次聯席會議（事由：一、併案審查（一）委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人、（二）台灣民眾黨黨團、（三）委員張智倫等17人、（四）委員葉元之等21人及（五）委員羅美玲等18人分別擬具「內政部組織法第五條條文修正草案」案。
二、併案審查（一）台灣民眾黨黨團、（二）委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人、（三）國民黨黨團、（四）委員張智倫等17人、（五）委員葉元之等21人及（六）委員羅美玲等18人分別擬具「內政部新住民發展署組織法草案」案。） |
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范國威議員 |
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市長辛苦 老闆今天我們要討論新住民發展法裡面 我覺得每一個有每一個意見我們都要去尊重 因為說實在你如果來到這裡 你自己有自己的主觀意識也不好我們修一個法 能夠更好 欠一塊修不對的 |
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可以讓大家想出更好的辦法像我今天要跟你說的就是我們的新住民剛才我們的董事也說過要加分,既然他已經是台灣人的身份證了這個加分的時候對我的意見來說,我覺得非常不適合 |
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因為我認為 大家都愛中華民國的台灣才會來到中華民國的台灣生活 |
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在這個規定當中會揭出他的新聞證不是說今天你進來台灣明天就可以揭出新聞證是要等久以來的時間才有辦法去揭出新聞證揭出新聞證就是標示他是中華民國台灣人的新聞證的新聞 |
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所以他站在他的新聞上,就表示中華民國所有的福利所有的可以收錢,台灣人都可以收到的福利今天,我們就是說,要怎麼拿這個法 |
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太好了,因為我所了解的,在我們這裡,你如果覺得說數的跟中的,你們常常都會覺得說是政務的論用,還是常務的論用,但是在這幾宗我們的司法裡面,台北我們譬如說 |
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觀光署跟健保署 都用政務任用的啦在這個規定當中 我覺得三級的機關裡面 本質上我們都會用常務任用嘛 但是在非有做這個規定所以我們可以開放政務任用 或是可以用出 |
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更好的人才所以今天我們所討論的來賓在這裡我要跟你說的就是常務任用是看來賓有什麼事在13 |
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要不然在規定裡面 最有任用的法條裡面要不然在這個規定當中 我們可以法條裡面 可以寫出來 政府可以比較堅韌 |
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因為我覺得這裡面的過程有時候會覺得說要說清楚沒亂吵吵你跟現在想要合作的想要做的最少有七八十項如果改良後改良後七八十項的時候人員就要加重金要跟一百人 |
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所以在這個過程當中,我就是要跟你討論的說我們這樣,你的感覺有困難度在哪裡?你們政府一來這個法要出來的時候你們在內部裡面的區會裡面,有遇到什麼問題嗎?來請回答一下好,謝謝委員,我想基本法通過之後其實我們現在最重要的就是依照基本法的內容做業務分工 |
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所以業務分工才會有相關的部會就我剛剛一開始講的勞動、教育、社福等等的文化那因為這些東西的部分裡面如果有一些個別細節的部分譬如說任用權、通譯還有一些像學術、交流那這些東西有些東西本來是原本散在各個部會的 |
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那我們這一次就是要跟各部會就是說他的執掌業務哪一些是可以移撥給我的所以我要跟他討論所以我們跟他開啟示哪一些是他業務移撥人員不移撥這個都雖然都很細項但是如果沒有一個完整的做調整的話新住民發展署不可能去承接所有其他部位的業務我想這個是最主要的所以我們這次會調整四個組12顆其實有一些業務都是我們 |
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配合基本法之後所新增下來的那這個部分都還沒有辦法做一個完整的釐清的時候我們沒有辦法把組織法送上來最主要是這個部分 |
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所以你們沒辦法上來就是另外一個問題嘛你們開始在那裡整合的心想說在一個單位在一個單位可以來在這個生活裡面來做來的服務嘛所以到目前為止你們還沒想到要怎麼可以更好、更快 |
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我想跟你們報告其實我們大概都準備好了啦那只是接下來就是說還有跟部會的後續分工我們只要再確認說哪些業務不移波哪些業務留在原來可能是勞動文化教育衛福的部分我們繼續留著但是有一些新的部分其實像這次的組織法裡面談到的有關保險還有國家考試的任用權那這個部分其實有些是逾越我三級機關的組織法所應該能夠寫的啦 |
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大概是這樣子因為這裡跟你討論就是說我們的背景我們也要照顧到新的住民法我們也要照顧到我們當然要照顧新的住民法但是剛才本席就是跟你說就是有這個問題說額後期的加分說實在現在大家都很聰明的尤其既然你已經來到台灣的生活的時候我相信 |
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協助,一定都會協助,長久以來,移民署也都會協助這些新住民,對不對不然說,沒有在協助,它就靠不過去,要有協助才靠得過去,有加分才靠得過去,我認為一個公平的社會時,這個科技的加分,我希望我們可以深深去評估對外的 |
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為當中 我覺得這是不好的啦因為沒公平啦因為這個規定 我也覺得 |
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你講修法 怎麼努力來協助這個新住民轉業也好 嫁來這裡也好 來這裡做工作也好都可以給他們好好的照顧 協助我相信我們中央政府都願意這樣做啦不是說 你有修這個新的法 到時候我就來照顧新住民 |
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會協助和付出 我覺得這是非常不公平其實我們一直都在做 移民署的業務本來就有包含新住民輔導 文化融入台灣社會對啊 所以我覺得長久以來我們會覺得自己的頭腦應該付出的 應該協助的沒有錯 可是不要去抹面他們長久以來會協助的辛苦 |
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他們是將來不再發生 他們覺得你來台灣有什麼動作我應該跟你合作 這都是應該的但是聽起來 他們覺得你沒有一個單位 他們就沒辦法在台灣生活下去我認為這是非常對 長久以來合作這些新住民的人 |
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我們都持續在做,我們都一直在協助希望新住民能夠融入台灣社會,成為我們國民之後可以更融入台灣所以我對自己的心,新住民說實在他非常認真,非常認同台灣所以我們要怎麼讓他好,不是說為了什麼 |
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新住民說實在,他們很願意融入台灣的發財來賓所以說我們也看到的時候,可以稍微講白一點,不說什麼人那麼大聲我們要非常去注意,以上好,謝謝,謝謝委員好,謝謝王委員 |