| IVOD_ID |
162680 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162680 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-3-36,15-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制、內政委員會第3次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制、內政委員會第3次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-19T09:18:43+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-19T09:28:10+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:27 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/19817250edeb8a737e7c54935269e4e5c914d80f272b5bb4907d28bbaa3ae0236e51440544dc04855ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃國昌 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:18:43 - 09:28:10 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制、內政委員會第3次聯席會議（事由：一、併案審查（一）委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人、（二）台灣民眾黨黨團、（三）委員張智倫等17人、（四）委員葉元之等21人及（五）委員羅美玲等18人分別擬具「內政部組織法第五條條文修正草案」案。
二、併案審查（一）台灣民眾黨黨團、（二）委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人、（三）國民黨黨團、（四）委員張智倫等17人、（五）委員葉元之等21人及（六）委員羅美玲等18人分別擬具「內政部新住民發展署組織法草案」案。） |
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謝謝主席 麻煩有請內政部次長以及我們人事行政總署的人事長兩位好2023年12月18號當時的副總統賴清德與總統候選人的身份在臉書上面發表了對新住民的承諾 |
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包括了要強化新住民專責的單位要提升他的位階賴總統對新住民的承諾我相信應該還算數 沒有問題吧 |
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請對著麥克風講話因為這樣子你的點頭沒有辦法進入立法院公報還算數吧這個行政院 我們就依照總統公布的就依照總統公布的這是賴總統的承諾嘛現在我問賴總統的承諾還算不算數算數嗎 |
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應該符合規定我說賴總統的承諾算不算數你說應該符合規定總統已經發布施行了好來看一下賴總統的承諾啊在野黨幫他實現了我為什麼說在野黨幫他實現了去年7月16號新住民基本法第4條內政部應設置新住民事務專責中央三級行政機關 |
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當初在立法院表決的時候在野黨、台灣民眾黨、中國國民黨的委員支持57票民主進步黨反對49票57比49的表決結果在新住民基本法裡面對於中央三級行政機關我們提供了一個重要基本法未接的法源基礎 |
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今天我看到有民主進步黨的委員也針對組織法提出他們的修正草案我覺得這是一個好的方向基本法過了以後過了以後也認同這樣一個中央三級機關的立法方向所以也提出了組織法的修正草案非常的好希望今天能夠順利完成委員會的審查 |
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但我們要追問的事情是說去年7月18號內政部說我們署的員額已經滿了所以先成立新住民權益保障籌備處目前這個新住民權益保障籌備處的進度如何謝謝委員指教我想那個成立籌備小組的部分是由我這邊先提一下我問的是籌備處籌備處成立了沒有 |
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還沒還沒有成立從去年7月18號說要成立籌備處到現在已經六月了還沒有成立籌備處跟委員報告籌備小組跟籌備處的性質其實是一樣都是為了要未來成立發展署你回去看一下你們自己內政部的報告啦籌備處跟籌備小組一樣嗎現在籌備小組人力有幾個人 |
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跟委員報告 我們籌備小組是由我擔任召集人是 那總共有幾個人幾乎是移民署的同仁都有參與全部你全部都把他移到籌備小組裡面去我們籌備小組只是個工作就是為了一個未來的組織是嘛 所以我就問你籌備小組有幾個人嘛有幾個人連員額都沒有不是 平常跟我開會大概都將近15個到20個所以你現在連籌備小組有幾個人的人數都定不下來喔 |
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這樣是有在認真的籌備籌備處嗎因為我看了你們的報告以後我是充滿困惑你們去年11月的時候發了一個聲明現在還在內政部的網站今天你們所提出來的工作報告市長你有沒有把你去年11月的聲明跟你們今天提給我們世化法治委員會的書面報告有沒有比對過謝謝委員只要我沒有做過這個比對你可以回去比對一下 |
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因為我今天看你們的報告讀一讀似曾相識這個東西我讀過我後來回去稍微翻了一下我果然讀過你們今天6月提給司法法治委員的報告跟你們去年11月寫的東西幾乎是一模一樣那我非常的驚訝所以我才在問你們在籌備處 |
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的進度到哪裡有多少人在做這個事有沒有把他當一回事認真啊在做你們說數不夠沒有關係我們雖然是在野黨執政黨的困難我們幫你們處理所以再度由台灣民眾黨黨團提出了中央行政機關組織基準法你們說數的人數滿了 |
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執政黨不推動修法 沒關係 在野黨幫你們解決問題我們推動修法 三讀通過所以現在 數數目的法規限制也沒了現在提升到七十一個但大家關心的事情是說 進度牛步那為什麼會進度牛步 |
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一個月就開一次會慢慢開看你要籌備到什麼時候我下一個問題新住民基本法當初我們要給行政院方便我沒想到我們每次給行政院方便行政院都當隨便新住民基本法什麼時候要公告實施 |
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360.577 |
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383.749 |
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跟委員報告我想新住民基本法的施行的部分我們這個已經有報到行政院去了持續研議應該不會啦 我們的整個所以還要多久這個還是要看院理這邊所以還是要看院嘛所以我們的卓榮泰院長是不重視新住民的保障嗎不會啦 我們院長都很支持如果很支持可以拖這麼久什麼時候三讀通過了新住民基本法 |
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385.049 |
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398.78 |
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你知道嗎去年七月去年七月現在幾月現在是六月一年啊那這個中間我們就是成立籌備小組然後這種籌備小組緣而不足的籌備小組持續籌備要籌備到什麼時候要籌備到什麼時候不知道什麼時候要公告私情不知道 |
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409.793 |
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438.519 |
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對於我們的行政院來講 不想做的事能拖就拖 能混就混持續的研議 持續的拖延 持續的籌備這個就是我們的民進黨政府在面對我們新住民權益保障的態度嗎是這樣嗎來 請回答那我想照顧新住民這個是我們內政部應該做的工作是 那就做嘛展現具體的行動出來嘛 |
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468.877 |
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你們現在告訴新住民朋友的是我們很認真在研議啊研議了快一年啊持續的研議啊新住民基本法什麼時候要公告知情也不知道是這樣嗎我們的籌組業務的其實業務有超過非常的繁重我知道所以呢按照你們的能力業務這麼繁重還要再籌備多久再籌備三年夠不夠再籌備三年到二零二八年 |
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469.972 |
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486.604 |
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再讓你開一次競選支票 再騙一次票 時間夠不夠夠不夠 三年夠不夠 三年還不夠來 什麼時候要提出內政部組織法 內政部新住民發展署組織法 |
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517.146 |
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行政院版的草案有要提嗎跟委員報告因為新住民失誤繁瑣包括文化勞動衛福還有教育所以什麼時候送來也不知道我們會配合整個基本法實行後我們來推特今天我們修法有需要等你們嗎今天可不可以出委員會行政院會不會反對我們尊重委員會尊重委員會非常的好非常的好不要阻擋喔今天在有關於這些組織法的施行日期啊有鑒於 |
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新住民基本法我們相信行政院把施行日期給行政院定沒想到行政院可以混成這個樣子到今天新住民基本法什麼時候要施行都不敢講今天台灣民眾黨黨團最後一條我們會提修正動議施行日期我會直接定下去我不會再給行政院機會了之前給你們機會給你們方便當隨便 |
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549.108 |
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563.909 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
讓新住民的朋友等了多久今天沒有這樣子的待遇了事情日期直接定下去希望到時候行政機關依法行政遵守法律可以嗎可以嗎我想尊重委員會好 謝謝 |