| IVOD_ID |
162646 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162646 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-22-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-18T11:18:22+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-18T11:26:27+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:05 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5617cf280bc2552aa66e99824ba8510022945a8ef8f6e906a48dd392130a673604d060652815dfb75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:18:22 - 11:26:27 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家科學及技術委員會副主任委員林法正列席，就「競逐太空：國科會太空科技發展布局與未來藍圖」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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主席 在黨委員先進列席了政局長官員會長 觀眾夥伴媒體記者女士先生有請林副主委以及太空中心的吳主任好 林副主委還有吳主任請總委員好副主委好 吳主任好謝謝昭偉安排這個議程他剛剛就預告了他知道排這個議程我一定會來請教不完全是因為我們未來的這個發射廠會是在屏東而是說整個太空計畫對我們台灣各項的需求非常的重要 |
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那我今天呢就專門要來請教SAR可能就是先請教我們吳主任其實呢在去兩年前我就問過我們第三集的太空計畫有兩顆SAR的衛星伏衛九號對不對它是要跟我們的光學的影像呢跟SAR影像的結合那請問這兩顆什麼時候上空 |
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根據我們現在的規劃是在第一顆2028,第二顆2030好,2028最快,好但是在我們自己的SAR的投載衛星上去之前我們國內要怎麼樣取得SAR的服務 |
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我想大部分就是透過商業購買其實我們都知道這個合成拱鏡雷達它作為海洋監測可以大範圍的國土安全的管理包括廢棄土的這個監測還有氣候變遷等等那事實上我在這個兩年前問的時候就問SARS的這個技術需求但是我最近看到一個新的下一頁 |
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就是說有一個叫做ISAR就是目前台灣的海軍要求垂直起降的無人機要搭載逆合成孔徑雷達請問一下主任這個ISAR跟SAR它的主要用途功能是什麼樣的差別 |
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我想一般的這個SAR衛星在上面飛地面的東西因為它很快所以它幾乎是地面觀察是幾乎靜止然後ISAR主要是可以很精準地去拍攝到在動態的所以我們的低軌衛星的SAR它看到的是一個靜態的狀況但是如果是有其他的用途譬如說我們對於海面的船艦我們可能就要用一個ISAR的方式來偵測是這樣嗎 |
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那這兩個的籌載呢它其實有不一樣的規格用途也不同那我想請教一下再往下看那目前我們SA大概有這樣的意義無空間限制啦目前我們海巡署呢就用一個這個定義無人機已經在部署了那另外呢 |
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我們對於國土監測有定點監控還有用無人機用光學攝影的無人機那請教一下您認為我們國科會或太空中心的立場或以國科會立場副主委有沒有可能我們可以來支援以SARS的技術來支援我們其他的國土偵測的需求這個基本上技術上是有可能的是有可能的副主委願不願意支持 |
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這個一定要支持好 那我們往下看那事實上我們現在發現一個問題最近我們看到了中國把它的MMSI將我國的海巡艦這應該是海巡艦的 |
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巴里艦啊它故意的把它標示在福建的港口那事實上對於這樣的一個自主的一種標示服務呢它其實是沒有很難去防止偽造但是如果有SAR的話其實我們隨時可以掌握這些海面上艦艇的所在不知道吳主任同不同意這樣的一個科技能力 |
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當然當然當然是可以好但是在我們自己的服務費9號上空之前除了我們跟國際上購買商用的SAR的服務之外有沒有可能我們現在就像海軍他自己籌建用iSAR有沒有可能我們國科會可以協助包括我們的海委會海巡署還有我們的林保署這些對於國土監測防護有需要的單位有沒有可能我們來協助他們我想在一些技術諮詢我們當然是可以技術諮詢好舉例來講 |
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最近其實早在兩年前也有中國橡皮艇從我們的北部沿海偷偷的上來那問一下軍方或海巡單位橡皮艇跟波浪的反射波按上雷達根本看不出來因為它太小了而且有波浪所以很容易就偷渡上岸但是用SAR有沒有可能來有效的判別呢 |
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如果我們的數目夠多,然後天上是有可能…您說數量夠多是指什麼意思?是說它的高度還有它的…衛星的數量夠多衛星,那有沒有可能不要用到衛星,可能用到其他的長滯空時間航程久,譬如說可以滯空12個小時以上的定義的無人機,那繼續在我們的上空巡邏 |
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顧好我們周邊的海域因為這個不是太空中心的業務對 我是請教你啦我嘗試解 如果就我的個人了解齁其實台灣民間已經有一定的技術它可以將這個有人的飛機改成無人機它的滯空時間可以十幾個小時所以基本上如果有這樣的無人機你搭配一些SAR或光學再飛在三四千公尺高其實它可以大面積而且是autopilot我想是可以達到非常好的效果 |
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所以這樣的技術用包括單螺旋槳雙人座的一般的小飛機民用航空器或者把它改成自動化無人化也就可以來擔任這樣的任務了那這樣估計大概台灣只要同一個時間有六架大概周邊的海域就顧得很腳穩了嘛 |
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我認為是這樣 如果台灣可以做個20架因為20架在成本效益上是可以開模所以它製造成本是夠然後你同時有5架到6架autopilot我想是可以在一些重要的地點達到非常快的功效而且這個速度非常快好 謝謝 我想感謝吳主任這麼詳細願意不嘗試也謝謝我們 我希望國科會未來在行政院當中 |
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對國防部或海委會可以多提供這樣我們在科技上的研發能力來協助他們好不好最後我們來看一下其實呢我在兩年前的6月18號就因為橡皮艇事件我就有提過說海巡署透過雷達他很難看斷但是透過無人載具有的是去拒止有的是去監控 |
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但是監控呢如果有SARS的話呢它就有辦法來增強我們的國土徵收能力所以今天我就最後呢現在還是太空中心的還有我們國科會的報告但是我希望說針對目前我們國土監測國土安全防衛的需求我們希望除了科研的任務之外 |
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國科會應該將你們這樣的技術將SARS的醜仔能夠讓它能夠與時俱進或者說提供各種的醜仔類型譬如說你們現在SARS是放在衛星上的衛星上大概多重 多大一個這樣的SARSSARS在我們衛星上 福衛9號的SARS大概這個醜仔是多重 |
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大概七八十公斤如果包括用飛手會加起來超過一百公斤那如果是七八十公斤用大概籌載兩百公斤的無人載具無人航空機是可以做得到的 |
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我剛剛是口誤,大概100多公斤,因為它是主動式,跟它的Power都有關,如果要飛機飛,它是需要再做改造,或者Reduce它的Model。我們都知道,因為在非常高的低軌通訊衛星,它是在500公里,那你們目前要讓那兩顆伏地圍9號才達到多少公里高? |
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五百多公里對沒錯就是五百多公里大概五百多公里嘛但是我們一般的大概監控型的大概都不會在五公里之內啦那五公里之內的SAR它的這個醜仔是不是可以用無人機來承載拜託我們國科會能不能請副主委回去跟主委報告之後我們在這個技術上呢來支援我們相關的海委會跟國防部好嗎 |
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那個跟委員說明就是你的建議很好那我要跟委員說明一下其實一般的巷尾陣列雷達其實在岸上跟船艦也相當的成熟所以未來可以用巷尾陣列雷達跟SAR一起做配合一起配合啦對對對沒錯沒錯好謝謝謝謝兩位謝謝主委好謝謝鍾嘉賓委員副主委請回我們接下來請楊瓊英委員楊瓊英楊瓊英委員不在我們請 |