| IVOD_ID |
162641 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162641 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-22-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-18T11:26:33+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-18T11:33:32+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:59 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5617cf280bc2552af02f1ddef8aec04e22945a8ef8f6e906a48dd392130a67365d5d57c87ccf072a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃國昌 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:26:33 - 11:33:32 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家科學及技術委員會副主任委員林法正列席，就「競逐太空：國科會太空科技發展布局與未來藍圖」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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黃委員長副主委好這個案子因為當地有民眾來跟我澄清檢舉所以我這一段時間我現在先帶你進入狀況2024年8月的時候我們在陽明山裝一個太陽能電板 |
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下面有鋰電池空瓶感測器這是2024年8月的時候發生自然的事件副主委你看一下那個照片看了是有一點觸目驚心我現在第一個問題是說在2024年8月發生這件事情以後我們做了什麼事 |
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好 跟委員報告我們基本上會已經有盤點所有的監測裡面只要是用鋰電池我們通常把它換掉換成磷酸鋰鐵甚至外面會加...沒關係 我們一樣一樣啦因為你講話講得太抽象了我很具體的問在2024年8月因為這個是現場的照片嘛我不知道副主委有沒有看過啦但我可以跟你確定這個是當初自然的時候現場的照片嚇壞一堆人啦自己就燒起來了嘛 |
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那我的問題是2024年8月以後做了什麼事我們就是把把那個鋰電池都換成磷酸鋰鐵什麼時候換的應該都是都已經全部都換完了對我說2024年8月以後發生了這件事情你們做了什麼事你告訴我說把電池都換了嘛那我請教你什麼時候換的我的問題沒有這麼困難吧 |
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因為它牽涉到國政中心,也有牽涉到國網中心所以基本上應該是最近都是這幾個月把它換完的為什麼是最近這幾個月才開始做?這不是去年八月的事嗎?為什麼?這個是我的問題 |
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他可能要盤點然後再要重新訂製因為他能夠鑽的面積都很小我直接接入重點跟副主委講啦你現在在台上突然想出的這些理由都不是理由請你們回去整理好 |
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去年八月發生了這個事情以後每一個時間點你們做了什麼事情用書面回覆我可以嗎好我為什麼說你剛剛在台上我想副主委可能業務繁多啦這件事情未必掌握得那麼清楚那沒有辦法回應我的問題所以在台上想辦法回應也辛苦你了但是我質詢向來是有point的 |
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為什麼我一直在問2024年8月發生這個事情的時候你們做了什麼事情因為今年4月的時候又發生一次陽明山火燒山 燃燒50公頃燃燒50公頃今年4月我接到這個澄清跟檢舉的時候大家沒有辦法理解事情是去年8月燒了一次喔什麼事都沒做 |
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搞到今年四月再燒一次燒了五十公頃你所謂的更換我相信一定是燒了這五十公頃以後才開始換的對不對是我的問題就來了當發生問題 |
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你不面對問題解決問題這就是後果贊不贊成贊成我希望國科會痛定思痛痛定思痛去年發生了問題不願意面對問題解決問題搞到今年四月陽明山火燒山延燒五十公頃 |
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到目前為止 事故調查報告出來沒有目前的調查報告是消防那邊是寫電器原因對啊 但問題是 你們不覺得這東西很危險嗎 |
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是很危險的你們找廠商跟你們合作去裝了一個這個東西如果你們到現在喔還不知道真正的噪音是什麼的話就是CAUSE啦你如果真的不知道CAUSE是什麼的話那代表了這像是一個不定時的炸彈一樣非常的危險好 那下一個問題 |
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如果你連實際的事故原因它的噪音是什麼都沒有辦法發生的話都沒有辦法確定的話那我就擔心一件事情了你們為什麼覺得換了電池就會沒事 |
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那個跟委員報告我們確定是李三元電池自燃所以才我剛剛跟委員報告所以是產品有瑕疵嗎不是那個電池他放了太久了他沒有去把它換掉那個是我們內部管理的問題所以從去年委員指教的很好去年8月其實是我們在內部的管理有問題所以4月之後呢主委已經已經要求我們國營院各單位這個自我的這些檢查的SOP必須要把它做出來我再問一下齁現在啊 |
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一樣的東西還有幾支目前國網的都沒有了全部都沒了國網都沒有 對出問題的是國網的那個是沒有的因為其實那個計畫是民生公共物聯網最後一個問題誰要賠我們的責任我們的責任我們就會負責到底對 這個我知道啦如果是你們責任當然要負責到底我的問題很具體 誰要賠是國家賠還是廠商賠 |
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不是啦 如果國家要賠整件事情那我就覺得很荒謬啊拿國科會的錢去賠陽明山國家公園管理處這不是很好笑嗎拿納稅人的錢去賠納稅人的損失誰要賠這個部分說明一下這個部分我們有跟廠商協調這個分配的這個比例賠償比例是多少目前原則上對我們已經有初步的協商結果啦 |
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會後順便給我好不好好OK沒問題好謝謝好謝謝黃國昌委員 |