| IVOD_ID |
162640 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162640 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-18T12:25:34+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-18T12:34:06+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:32 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5617cf280bc2552aec22479698b95c46435a35cf529d0c6ca48dd392130a6736682c3a9a74037a9e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王鴻薇 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:25:34 - 12:34:06 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：邀請數位發展部部長黃彥男就「推動AI之產業發展政策」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席我請一下我們今天有來的資策會副執行長請資策會副執行長今天我們談的題目非常大就是我們怎麼樣去推動我們的AI產業 |
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那資策會當年是由李國鼎先生他所創辦的當時 今天的你們主管機關經濟部沒有來資策會長期以來都是怎麼樣來推進我們的資訊產業政策還有我們促進產業發展現在這AI產業非常重要但是現在的資策會 |
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淪為賴清德總統的一個親信的的一個藏身的場所當然今天執行長也沒有來你是副執行長副執行長您自己是台南市政府法治處處長秘書處處長出身你的專長是法律吧是對 |
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不是說在資策會裡面不應該有法律相關的人才但是我現在給大家看一看攤開來現在的資策會的人士裡面大家就可以看到這種酬庸有多麼的嚴重而且幾乎都集中在過去賴清德總統擔任台南市政府時代的人馬包含你們現在的AI研究院的院長 |
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他雖然頂著所謂的資管博士台灣資管博士你到路上也是一把抓他的經歷是什麼呢主要是南台科大的助教然後就是台南市政府研考會的主委其他沒有沒有其他任何相關的有關於跟資策會資訊產業相關的資歷了還有更離譜的叫做吳唐成 |
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他擔任資策會的資深規劃師結果呢 被抓包 去年底被抓包他最愛看的是政論節目啊然後在工作的時候 在這邊睡覺剛才齁 我們裡面也有官員齁 一在睡齁我看你醒了我就不點你名利啊這太離譜了 我們好幾個委員在質詢啊你睡的已經不知道那個什麼 何年何月了這個吳唐晨 在工作的時候睡覺 |
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製策會的人看不下去了對外爆料好再來更離譜的有一位叫做曾柏瑜他因為參選民進黨新北市的議員落選然後去擔任製策會的資安科技研究所國際合作總監那你知道他的資歷是什麼呢他學什麼的 |
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社會學系社會學系去擔任資安科技研究所國際合作總監 |
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那我想請問一下我們現在黃仲明董事長我剛才說了資策會過去是李國鼎先生創辦的那很多的歷任的部長包含黃仲明董事長前一任他最後很倒楣他本來任期應該到2026提前讓他走路只是為了讓黃仲明當董事長前一任叫做李世光他擔任過經濟部長 |
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過去資策會董事長裡面很多都是經濟部長卸任來擔任資策會董事長這一位黃仲明董事長他有什麼背景呢又來了新外資友會台南分會會長行政院政務顧問台南市政府市政顧問 |
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那我請問 副執行長 董事長來了之後認為董事長都是無薪的 所以他要求要有薪水所以請問一下 現在這次會給新任的董事長薪水了嗎有給 一個月多少錢這個是董事會通過的當然通過啊 他要求當然通過 過去另一任董事長都是沒有拿薪水的 但是我剛講了 |
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委員我們過去也有專任的董事長他是給付薪水的好那現在你們黃宗明你們給付他多少薪水一個月董事會的薪酬委員會有沒有超過院長有沒有超過現在的五院的院長薪水沒有我們本來就有限制不能夠超過那個部會首長那現在是多少呢部會首長沒有超過部會首長是 |
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我要講的是你們現在未來再禁用已經藏了這麼多資社會我覺得不應該淪落成一個政治性酬庸的地方而且怎麼如此的集中全部都是過去台單市政府任職的 |
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我不是說在台南市政府認知不好但是我剛才講了這麼多如此的集中合理嗎我們還要發展什麼樣AI產業這次會未來對於我們AI產業的發展還能有什麼貢獻呢好時間暫停一下對不起我想請速發部部長利用一點點時間好不好 |
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部長有一個也很重要的問題剛才大家講了很多中華電信的數位憑證不被認證但是最近還發生了一個就是很多公民營銀行通通拒絕暫停使用自然人民證自然人民證使用的其實非常廣泛很多人拿來報稅 |
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很多人拿來去做銀行的開戶數位帳戶那所以現在連公民銀行這還包含我們的公股銀行喔都對自然人憑證是暫停使用請問一下這個你們有什麼 |
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這個不是對自然憑證不信任而是說我們過去有很多人把自然憑證跟密碼交給詐騙集團所以他們用自然憑證跟密碼去開的這個詐騙帳戶是因為這樣關係所以暫時把它停止但是現在要求就是說以後你要開戶你要用video就是說確定是那個人不要說假的不是說不要借給人家所以重點是在當以前民眾把自然憑證跟密碼交給詐騙集團這件事情造成這個這個目前影響暫停的理由 |
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那但是他是全面暫停啊部分銀行暫停但是我沒有我的意思這些銀行就是全面暫停自然人民銀行暫停因為有很多人把自然憑證借給詐騙集團然後給了帳號密碼給了密碼所以我覺得這個是我們一直在宣傳說自然憑證現在因為他可以開帳可以開那個當然是詐騙行為而因此而變成是 |
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現在這麼多銀行暫停使用所以現在有改進措施就是說你要開戶用自然憑證開戶的時候同時要做video conference就是說你要你要在跟銀行的行員還是要面對面的去開戶不能夠只是拿個憑證然後因為現在 |
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這就是我們的數位大退步啦因為我們過去你開戶要拿雙憑證然後要拍照但是後來就是有這種數位憑證現在就是又倒退回倒退回我們的時期時代的時候 |
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以後會用指紋 比如說FIDO用指紋辨識這可能是我們以後要推動但是以目前的治安憑證就是要確認可能就是看影像有可能要做影像辨識也可以就是說你要確定是那個人用這張卡片才不會說我卡片被別人偷走或者帳號被偷走做一些不法的事情這個是目前遇到的問題不是治安憑證本身的問題所以這個又變成回過頭來還是因為詐騙的關係啊 |
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詐騙集團在欺騙在借自然人憑證去開人口戶可是這使得我們很多自然人憑證其他的使用人沒有被詐騙的最後也沒有辦法使用但是還是要有防堵的方式就是現在用影片就是用影像辨識來辨識日本人好 謝謝 |