IVOD_ID |
162615 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162615 |
日期 |
2025-06-18 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-26-17 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
3 |
會議資料.會次 |
17 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-06-18T11:33:12+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-06-18T11:44:49+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:11:37 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5617cf280bc2552aa6e37b1f49a33751242af1fd96f582304c29659fdfe1d1e86df6a493928834075ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
蘇清泉 |
委員發言時間 |
11:33:12 - 11:44:49 |
會議時間 |
2025-06-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第17次全體委員會議(事由:邀請勞動部部長就「營造友善職場育兒環境,落實照顧不離職政策規劃」進行專題報告,並備質詢。) |
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請蘇清泉委員謝謝主席然後請部長第一張第一張史萊姆史萊姆好保定都要正幹齁掰掰來這個這一張齁是是 |
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媽媽的看法跟企業的看法好現在育嬰留庭你們是半年是不是我要問清楚一下應該是說育嬰留庭可以兩年但是有薪資補助的是半年有薪資補助是半年六個月那你現在是六要加一個月所以是七個月就是要六加七的話要修救保法 |
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要修法那現在是媽媽可以請6個月再來爸爸再請6個月都可以請6個月那就12個月是不是就是各自都有6個月的有薪的這個有薪孕留庭的權利好就是現在是6加6就對了啦那6加6加1加1這兩個是要修法是不是對那現在是補助 |
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投保薪資的80%舊保是補助六成那另外兩成是公務預算所以六成加兩成加起來是八成所以他是拿到投保薪資的八成那另外兩成呢基本上我們現在是八成就給他補滿就好啦 |
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你講到這我們又要講到預算的問題沒有啦現在真的是小孩子太少了啦那又有一個20%這個20%由企業來補你認為怎麼樣 |
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換企業靠腰其實你也是經營企業員工非常多但是生產的不多現在真的很少我是覺得企業如果有的話 |
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補那兩成應該還可以啦如果比較比較財務比較OK的真的我是覺得那在醫療界事實上說育嬰六個月或者所以如果是單單媽媽六個月那她延長到一年那個六個月是沒有薪水的被我們留子停薪了那是很糟糕的所以現在爸爸來請也請六個月那這個錢是哪裡來 |
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但說六成是來自舊寶基金然後兩成的部分是來自公務預算舊寶基金所以是勞保期你會嗎你會請嗎不是舊安定基金是舊寶所以這樣一年的支出差不多多少現在剩那麼少我考考你大概107億107億 |
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這做6加6的 爸爸媽媽都申請這樣差不多一年這樣子一年就是107那也不多啊 |
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所以你們應該用公務預算再補兩層或者是補三層然後企業老闆補一層這樣讓他足夠我是覺得真的是這樣那個我們其實在110年的時候當時其實就是那時候是六層那希望能夠再增加就公務預算補兩層可是確實現在 |
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我還是必須跟文坦承載目前所以說地方政府沒有出錢地方政府沒有出啦全部都是中央出我怪你在靠腰啦好 下一張 |
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這個是育嬰設備的哺乳室是兩萬塊然後呢受僱者居家室抽菸這個是六十萬然後新建的是三百萬最高五百萬嘛你剛剛有講嘛 |
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這個是企業如果有設拖曳的設備或者建築你補助最多是500萬是不是?是,就是新設的新設的,如果今年有一家、兩家500萬實在太少啦,講坦白話現在的建築成本太高,現在什麼都各樣上 |
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應該說不一定是新蓋一個建築但是可能是用企業裡面的空間然後把它再去設定再去整理出一個這個所以這個我自己建議的就是說不要打死說五百萬應該是 |
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裡面去平和,有的是自己有建築物了,只是裡面裝修嘛那另外有的是新蓋,像我們就打算新蓋,但是要蓋幾千萬我們才會錢,你補足五百萬,你也想補足一、兩千萬,我們才能蓋下去 |
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所以上限比我高你的時報時銷因為現在的建築出品才挺高的我們現在已經從300萬拉高到500萬了可以一千兩千這樣這是什麼錢這是救保那這個侮辱是兩萬塊也太少了所以這個都要增加 |
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我們可以來看一下哪些部分有增加的空間可是這個但是我還是要跟委員提醒因為其實長期以來因為救保基金他其實主要是在處理的問題其實是關於就業跟失業上面的議題那其實很多勞工朋友包括很多的工會勞工團體其實也一直在提醒其實處理就業失業的問題才是原本就救保基金他一開始成立的時候他的最重要的 |
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的設定的目的還有那個育嬰是6加6我覺得不太夠應該是差不多要到18個月 |
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我不是在開普拉普,我是在說真的因為我們自己我自己有四個小孩,我們這樣過來很辛苦這樣讓我們小孩生孫,那個更辛苦我們非常願意跟所有人一起合作我們在醫療界,看我們先來推動 |
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那醫療的 像譬如說護理師他育嬰他育嬰假回來你說會遭遇什麼問題 我們是沒有什麼問題但是他自己本身有時候是健保本身的電腦軟體一直在更新所以回來有時候會 |
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會要踏足了啦會感覺跟不上的感覺是有這個問題所以我們像我們在鄉下在屏東小孩子要下課如果當安親班是OK的如果沒有的話我們很多都中間請 |
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所以說回來沒有工作什麼職場我也覺得沒有這個問題然後再來就是說什麼女性的薪水比男性低我也沒有這種感覺 |
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只要你在獅子輩你是婦理獅就是你的價碼就你是藥師那價碼更高啦所以沒有婚男女那是在行政職方面可能會有點差啦行政職啦就目前現在數據上看起來確實男女性質上面還是有差異我們必須承認這件事情那這也是我想也是勞動部必須努力的目標好 那下一張 |
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這個是男性比例啦現在有在增加是好事啦那屏東的話我們男性生母乳價是17%增加到20%這也是都是好事情那希望能夠更更有效啦那你剛剛講的這個一個月譬如說小孩子發燒啦什麼的幼兒園突然間說說說要不然孩子吵吵等於有人發燒啊傳病毒啊那個是用市價的喔 |
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現在其實很多對很多老公來說他可能必須用市價或者用自己的特休來營運所以這也是為什麼他可能這種臨時性家庭照顧假或者是家庭照顧假市價或家庭照顧假市價是14天7天7天沒有薪水的7天但是7天是算在14天的市價裡面市價市價也沒薪水啊對市價也沒薪水那你們補啊 |
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所以我們為什麼我們現在也才從這個育嬰留庭的範圍裡面去思考怎麼樣去幫助這些生小孩的勞工家庭去解決這個問題我們為什麼才從這裡面去思考的原因就是這樣因為他在如果從育嬰留庭去想的話他裡面本身就救保其實可以有六成的補助那再加兩成的這個公務預算的補助 |
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他比較不用再要再去畫一個非常大的裁員來去補貼因為現在在整體的財政上面其實都有其實是挑戰是很大的好下一張最後一張了好 |
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這個是我們事業單位申請補助的嘛齁我跟部長講一個那個現在澳洲啊 澳洲他們生小孩後育嬰教室多久你知道嗎三年三年是國家補助的所以三年後再生一個 又三年再三年 又生一個這樣十年 齁澳洲現在就這樣所以我 |
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他們也是這樣幹的所以我們這邊是一直往上比不完所以我的建議因為這個錢都是中央出的錢地方政府沒有地方政府在說的是在說什麼公民都沒錢他也是老人 孩子都沒錢現在他們在說的是連高雄市也在挨台南市也在挨 是在挨什麼部長 |
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你說地方政府來地方政府說他們要補助啊他們的錢被扣了27%嘛 對不對那是跟這個是重疊的嗎我想這個應該不是不是這個部分我們的補助是來自酒保好查清楚 好 謝謝 |